Worlds 2018 teaser

[portugal11]

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Briançon '00 (TdF) was 7h56' <-- Does anyone know why it was so slow?

It was a long day and they soft-pedaled the first two hours at 30 km/h.

In Giro 2000 there was a medium mountain stage which took 7h50'. 1996 even 7h55'...so for the gruppetto almost nine hours.

Longest WRR should be Frascati 1955. 8h43' in an oven by the end of August near Rome for 296 kms.

This race will be the longest in modern cycling. Almost 8 hours of racing should be epic but i fear that GB and Australia will kill this race

8 hrs of cycling means 7:40 of crying why nothing is happening.

I'm afraid of that. If we forget the lenght, this is a perfect "stage" for "sky" to control. I would like to see a plan section between the climbs

 

[portugal11]

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Val di Fassa '11 was 7h27'
Firenze '14 was 7h25'
Last WC over 7h before that was '95 @ 7h09'
Briançon '00 (TdF) was 7h56' <-- Does anyone know why it was so slow?
Petrano '09 was 7h11'
MSR '08: 7h14'
MSR '05: 7h11'
MSR '04: 7h11'
MSR '01: 7h23'
MSR '00: 7h11'

I just poked around a bit, but it doesn't seem like it happens very often that a race is over 7h. I'm sure there's some obvious GT stages that I haven't checked that are there as well (in CQ's time frame).

BTW I think it's a bit stupid that none of the flatter worlds are anywhere near MSR in length...

The 2015 Giro stage to Fiuggi was 7h22'. 264km, headwind, on hilly terrain. Can't have been a nice recovery ride for Bertie

And the day after wouter weylands died?

 

[rick james]

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This race will be the longest in modern cycling. Almost 8 hours of racing should be epic but i fear that GB and Australia will kill this race

Bloody Anglo-Saxons :lol:

 

[roundabout]

start locations announced

http://tirol.orf.at/news/stories/2828868/

 

[Max Rockatansky]

AREA 47 to Innsbruck is around 50k. They announced on the official site, that the total ttt will be around 60k.

From Rattenberg to Innsbruck you have 50k. So this looks like a itt for the Panzerwagens of this world.

Kufstein to Innsbruck is 75k. Also flat.

 

[Asero831]

Colombia looks scary

Quintana, Chaves, Henao, Uran, Pantano, Lopez, Bernal, Atapuma, Anacona

 

[AlexNYC]

This has France and Colombia written all over it. I don't think GB or Australia have enough climbers to control a race on this course. And let's not forget that Froome will be 33 by the time this takes place.

 

[Mr.White]

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This has France and Colombia written all over it. I don't think GB or Australia have enough climbers to control a race on this course. And let's not forget that Froome will be 33 by the time this takes place.

Italy, Spain?

 

[jaylew]

I like the looks of this. Frankly, I'd even like to see a MTF worlds, which I know some wouldn't like. I just think it's unfair that riders like Cav, Kittel, and Greipel get their chances to win worlds but guys like Nairo, Contador, and Froome don't.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Froome, Contador and Quintana are bad one day racers compared to how strong they otherwise are, so I see no unfair in that. They don't have the psychical attributes for a one day race and frankly, none of them really seem to care apart from Froome last year in Rio. And he wasn't really impressive, was he? Look at Quintana in Larciano just before T-A, didn't even make the front group, but proceeded to win T-A overall just a week later in convincing fashion.

That said, I hope Quintana will try to prepare for these Worlds, and Contador/Froome for that matter.

 

[jaylew]

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Froome, Contador and Quintana are bad one day racers compared to how strong they otherwise are, so I see no unfair in that. They don't have the psychical attributes for a one day race and frankly, none of them really seem to care apart from Froome last year in Rio. And he wasn't really impressive, was he? Look at Quintana in Larciano just before T-A, didn't even make the front group, but proceeded to win T-A overall just a week later in convincing fashion.

That said, I hope Quintana will try to prepare for these Worlds, and Contador/Froome for that matter.

They don't have the attributes for a one-day because there aren't any with mtfs or major climbs super close to the end. I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with occasionally one of those as a Worlds course if you're also going to have routes that are geared to bunch sprinters. I'd also be fine with neither type, but if you're going to include one, I think you should include the other.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Vista Chinesa was a 'major' climb I'd say and people expected the best climbers such as Froome to do well and he really didn't. Sure, it would help if they ended on a MTF/hill top finish, but one day racing IS different to stage racing. The length and how you are used to use your energy systems - the best stage racers has amazing recovery, w/kg and an incredibly high FTP for the weight, but that doesn't necessarily translate into a good one day racer even though its a very tough race. One day racers can go anaerobically over and over again without it hampering their next hard effort too much while it takes a lot of energy out of stage racers who climbs and time trials at threshold, never really above it - its a different world.

 

[AlexNYC]

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This has France and Colombia written all over it. I don't think GB or Australia have enough climbers to control a race on this course. And let's not forget that Froome will be 33 by the time this takes place.

Italy, Spain?

Both are strong, but I think France and Colombia have more riders whose age and strengths are a perfect fit for these parcours.