108th Giro dell'Emilia (04.10.2025)

[Unchained]

What a chicken Del Toro is by going to this race instead of the Euros. Hiding from Pog and Remco.

American geography

 

[Unchained]

Has been living in San Marino for ages and still not applying for citizenship...

San something but not Marino

 

[Unchained]

We're approaching the part of the season where the riders suddenly just don't have anything left in the tank, making it harder to predict. Del Toro has been all over the place for three months now; he's certainly one of the top candidates to be running out of gas, especially having done the brutal Worlds race. But anyone could blow up at this point of the season. Onley has been cooked ever since the Tour, so he's definitely one I don't expect anything from.

All over the place where? He has 4 of 5 and only faltered at Pantani where he pooped his pants getting 31st ...otherwise Italy is his country. He didn't do anything brutal at worlds, that was the Pog plan ,
Del Toro reconsidered and rolled in top ten, not toasted.
Pogacar punished himself, Remco more so but burying himself in an epic awesome chase Del Toro did a regular race for him.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

All over the place where? He has 4 of 5 and only faltered at Pantani where he pooped his pants getting 31st ...otherwise Italy is his country. He didn't do anything brutal at worlds, that was the Pog plan ,
Del Toro reconsidered and rolled in top ten, not toasted.
Pogacar punished himself, Remco more so but burying himself in an epic awesome chase Del Toro did a regular race for him.

Exactly. He has been all over the place as in he has been doing very well for a long time. Probably bad wording on my part, but that's what I meant.

 

[tobydawq]

On the schedule, it looks like we will get a full 55 minutes of broadcast of this race. Can that be right?

 

[search]

On the schedule, it looks like we will get a full 55 minutes of broadcast of this race. Can that be right?

yeah, more or less, at least. Most years we get the final ~hour.

Last year RaiSport had early coverage for the first time, but the race started later back then, so it was a bit of a different story.

 

[Salvarani]

On the schedule, it looks like we will get a full 55 minutes of broadcast of this race. Can that be right?

They must have looked at the startlist, damnit.

 

[KZD]

Really good startlist, perhaps too good for another stomp to happen, I am going with Del Toro ftw.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think Roglic is past his prime but today we will know if this is really true. He went to altitude, he is racing a classic suited to his ability, if he isn't close to win, he is "washed" IMO.

 

[Red Rick]

I think Roglic is past his prime but today we will know if this is really true. He went to altitude, he is racing a classic suited to his ability, if he isn't close to win, he is "washed" IMO.

You're acting like riders are either in their prime or washed and it's like a certain threshold where riders lose half their ability from one moment to the next, and it can be based on a single one day race late in the season.

 

[Salvarani]

You're acting like riders are either in their prime or washed and it's like a certain threshold where riders lose half their ability from one moment to the next, and it can be based on a single one day race late in the season.

Whats the difference in attributing riders wins to "luck", rather than talent and ability, as yourself do?

 

[tobydawq]

You're acting like riders are either in their prime or washed and it's like a certain threshold where riders lose half their ability from one moment to the next, and it can be based on a single one day race late in the season.

You use the term a lot yourself, but of course it must be criticised when it's a rider you like.

 

[Peyroteo94]

You're acting like riders are either in their prime or washed and it's like a certain threshold where riders lose half their ability from one moment to the next, and it can be based on a single one day race late in the season.

I'm not for one reason. A prime Roglic would beat anyone (including Del Toro) easily in this race. I will say again, easily. This is how good Roglic as an uphill sprinter is/was in these gradients IMO.
I can't see a scenario where Roglic isn't close to win and he is at his performance's ceilling (if we look to his career).
He prepared really hard for this block of the season. Can you tell me when was the last time he really did this? Most of the time, he was targetting the Vuelta. This year, he really practiced to be good in italian classics. Or do you think I'm wrong on this?

 

[Red Rick]

You use the term a lot yourself, but of course it must be criticised when it's a rider you like.

Yes, but I either use it correctly or ironically.

 

[tobydawq]

Yes, but I either use it correctly or ironically.

From the perspective of the poster, every post is either correct or ironic.

 

[tobydawq]

yeah, more or less, at least. Most years we get the final ~hour.

Last year RaiSport had early coverage for the first time, but the race started later back then, so it was a bit of a different story.

It looks like the estimated finishing time was wrong. They just started and will not ride 200 kms in 4 and a half hours in this terrain.

But it will still be just about 90 minutes coverage only.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It looks like the estimated finishing time was wrong. They just started and will not ride 200 kms in 4 and a half hours in this terrain.

But it will still be just about 90 minutes coverage only.

If the race is hard, they will ride in 4 and half.

 

[Bratone]

Hi, who is broadcasting this ? Is there any way it can be watched for free like through a VPN ? I remember we could do that for San Sebastian for example as there were some free broadcasts in some countries.

 

[tobydawq]

If the race is hard, they will ride in 4 and half.

It doesn't seem to be raced fast. Only 40 kilometres covered in the first flat hour for the peloton.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It doesn't seem to be raced fast. Only 40 kilometres covered in the first flat hour for the peloton.

That's very slow indeed.
Edit: they are doing 50 kph average. This is fast. 3 hours and 3 minutes to cover 126 km. They can do it.

 

[Berniece]

Roglic didn’t have his stomp all season long due to training on long climbs. Not sure if he trained again for accelerations this past period

 

[tobydawq]

That's very slow indeed.
Edit: they are doing 50 kph average. This is fast. 3 hours and 3 minutes to cover 126 km. They can do it.

Yeah, PCS seemed to be lying. Sigh.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Hi, who is broadcasting this ? Is there any way it can be watched for free like through a VPN ? I remember we could do that for San Sebastian for example as there were some free broadcasts in some countries.

Rai2 is supposed to be streaming it but I have a hard time navigating that site, especially once google starts to translate into English. Strange that Tiz isn't listing it...