2010 Vuelta al Pais Vasco

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Oct 29, 2009
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Mellow Velo said:
Must be honest, it looks worse on watching it again.

Yeah, felt the same when I got my hands on a copy that I could stop/play.

I can still think that there are many worse sprints that somehow did stand, but looking at the replay, Valverde certainly had his case.

I presume Freire did what he said he did, in his head he picked "far left out of the wind" as his sprint line and went in one straight line to that "lane", which, as he should know, is not how sticking to a picked lane works. I don't think he took out Valverde on purpose, as others have suggested here, he went straight to the far left with "clean" purpose, and he indicated "wind" was the reason behind it, which sounds utterly plausible to me. I even think he thought he was clear from the bunch so he was free to do it, but that wasn't how it played out in the end.

Pitty.
 
Jun 25, 2009
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Rogers, Txurruka and Benitez are in the break today. They have a 7:25 gap with about 90km left.
 
Jun 22, 2009
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Moondance said:
I know; was teasing....

It really must be a ***** to watch the European races. My sympathies. :(

I have to wake up in 6 hours and do a 12 hour shift, therefore I shant be watching this... bedtime :( australia sucks to watch cycling.
 
Jul 2, 2009
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
I have to wake up in 6 hours and do a 12 hour shift, therefore I shant be watching this... bedtime :( australia sucks to watch cycling.

Why are you even in Australia? University, family, girlfriend, job?

Or are you just a weird, freaky Australian who is obsessed with the Netherlands and Dutch cyclists? :p:p:p
 
Jan 11, 2010
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Moondance said:
Why are you even in Australia? University, family, girlfriend, job?

Or are you just a weird, freaky Australian who is obsessed with the Netherlands and Dutch cyclists? :p:p:p
Have you seen his Dutch spelling? I guess he's an Aussie with Dutch blood in him.
 
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theyoungest said:
Have you seen his Dutch spelling? I guess he's an Aussie with Dutch blood in him.

My Dutch spelling is horrible too.... A consequence of spending 14 of the first 18 years of my life in the USA and Switzerland cause of my dad's job, and only did a year of Dutch-language schooling. I speak/write FAAAR better English than I do Dutch (although I'm not immune to the occasional typo :eek:)

I'm as Dutch as Willem de Zwijger though (;))
 
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5.30m lead with 54kms left to race. If the powerful teams like Caisse and Rabo don't get going soon the escapees will stay away, since Rogers, Benitez and Txurruka aren't going to stall on the climbs.
 
Oct 29, 2009
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Libertine Seguros said:
...I dare say that your doe-eyed devotion has helped cause some of that antipathy towards Evans.

I agree with the entire post you made about an OTT comment.

I think there is some special truth in this bit, as it's certainly true for me. I do like folk rooting for folk, it is what makes sport fora such a great outlet for sporting tribalism.

But like totem riders create an impression that reflects on the tribe, through results and behaviour, the tribe itself also rubs off on how the totem is perceived. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but it certainly works like that for me.

There is a fine line between devoted jesting and rooting, with a fair give and take, and blind devotion in which people lose the ability to take as well as they give. At that point they become a big factor that affects how people react when that totem is waved in folk's faces.

Auscyclingfan, you obviously weren't happy about people wishing Evans to crash hard, whenever it was levelled at you. Yet, despite that, you still wrie exactly the same.

Somehow that "heart on my sleeve" feels that when you write exactly the same, it suddenly is "obviously" a joke. Or somehow better if it was a joke. Like "I wish he would get into a situation where he would have a good chance at real real harm (joke)" reads any better.

Either you totally deal with this in a joke realm that doesn't exist in my head, but are then unable to react likewise when it concerns your guy. Or you are trying to make a case that because no-one responded to someone driving a car too fast past a school, all parents worldwide are having double standards for getting outraged when they witness it themselves. You've become an offender who goes all victimey on us.... "but last week someone drove past my kid and no-one....".

This is an argument for what exactly? Double-standards by parents, or an indication that the driver who really should know better then, has instead lost the real plot and perspective?

I'll give you that Evans certainly isn't liked as much here as you do, and I get that over time you get sensitive. But he certainly isn't disliked as much as you claim either. For most folk I think he is just "meh". For some it is starting to become "meh-blind(ish)fanbehaviour", and your post like these contribute to that. If you had said "man, some folk here want my guy to fail, but I would have laughed my **** iff if someone closed the door on Valverde and got away with cheating him out of a win", most of us would probably chimed right in with you on that one.

Root for your rider, but don't become so blindly biased and uneven-handed that people start to care less about the repeat-offender, or get so annoyed that they evcen start to care less about the kid of a repeat-offender. Or that of an extensive-excuse-maker-in-an-actually-really-accusing-others-way. You are skirting the thin line between "fun, biased and enthused" and "mean, way-ott and blind" more than once, in my book.

I'm writing this because I do like the vast majority of your contributions, and 2010 would lose some appeal if we couldn't point out how many Spanish riders were ahead of him to you.

But I have seen you slip into some real grudges with pretty tempered people here lately. Deep breath, think of rainbows, and how nice the TdF will be when the Schlecks aren't fit, and Contador isn't quite on form either, and Evans is finally in a TdF with a team that is racing fully for him. In a rainbow jersey!

That he still will have to kiss Spanish and Luxembourgh ****, well... it's not that we haven't told you so. And let's hope he has learned the importance of staying ahead of Gesink in the Tour too. :D
 
Mar 11, 2009
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Francois the Postman said:
wordswordswords

tl;dr

In actual Pais Vasco news, Rogers has pulled away from the other two in the break, but the gap is only a few seconds right now.
 
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Kinda depressing seeing about 15 people at the side at the end yesterday. Also, bad luck to Freire. Should've been Le Mevel in the leaders jersey.
 
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luckyboy said:
Kinda depressing seeing about 15 people at the side at the end yesterday. Also, bad luck to Freire. Should've been Le Mevel in the leaders jersey.
There were more people on the final climb, which is more interesting anyway, I guess.
 
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Rogers attacking his two companions, getting about 15 seconds, and then sitting up waiting for Txurrukka. Just wanted to get rid of the footon?
 
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zapata said:
Rogers attacking his two companions, getting about 15 seconds, and then sitting up waiting for Txurrukka. Just wanted to get rid of the footon?

He couldn't stand to look at that atrocious kit any longer.
 
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Benitez has completely cracked, he has lost more than three minutes on Rogers and Txurruka already.
 
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zapata said:
Rogers attacking his two companions, getting about 15 seconds, and then sitting up waiting for Txurrukka. Just wanted to get rid of the footon?

Doesn't want the giant foot ruining all the pics of his big break:)

I always root for breaks to stay away, but there's an awful lot of downhill near the end, and a peloton can descend pretty quickly.

I was surprised by the time gaps yesterday, and the people who didn't make the second group. Will Thursday's stage be tough enough to shake things up a bit?

It also felt strange not to see an Astana jersey near the front. With them skipping Paris-Roubaix, I hoped they'd get a little feisty at this race.
 

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