2011 Tour de France, Stage 12: Cugnaux - Luz-Ardiden, 209 km

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

wish I had my hoogie shirt already

 

[The Barb]

Because one is riding on flat which is easier and others riding on climb which is harder.

You do realise it's a time gap not a distance gap, don't you? The lead group being on different terrain makes no difference.

Dear oh dear. Think about it.

 

[bicing]

eeeeeeeeeeepppppppp ohhh! Johnny!

 

[ak-zaaf]

Kreuziger on the counter.
This might become a fun afternoon.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Kreuziger goes.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Every single year....

classic stuff.

 

[brollebol]

Looking at the speed at which Kreuziger is closing Johnny and Sylvain don't seem to be going very fast...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Cav and Farrar gone.

Kreuziger attacks

 

[Dermie]

Ah Parrulo u haven,t got the force behind u. But all will be revealed as we text

 

[Publicus]

And to think they were complaining about narrow roads during the first week...

 

[ericthesportsman6]

major Paul Sherwen fail

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

And to think they were complaining about narrow roads during the first week...

Scandalous roads! It should be on highways only! Take the tunnel below the mountains

 

[The Hitch]

Sammy will not attack on the Tourmalet by the way. He said that its too far from the finish.

 

[AussieGoddess]

Can they not tell who cav is? He is wearing this really bright green jersey ....

 

[Ramira]

If he won't win another GT (which won't happen as he will get 3 or 4 more in the worst case scenario) he'll still have the most GT wins of this era.

Unless you are a fanboy and think Schleck will turn into somebody else and suddenly win 12 GTs in 8 years.

Slow your roll... He's definitely the best stage racer of this current generation (post-Armstrong). That's not in dispute. And if he hadn't ridden the Giro, I don't think anyone would be picking Andy for the win at this Tour.

Nah I just think terms like "best of an era" gets thrown around way to easy. He is without a doubt the best GT rider of the post-Armstrong generation. But to start calling every period of 5 years where someone is the best an era just doesn't seem right to me. Would that mean that if Andy wins the next 3 or 4 tour's he's the best of his era? For me an Era has to be something long and exceptional not something that happens more or less every decade.

And I might be a bit of a fanboy but after last year's tour and the relative young age of Andy I believe that if Contador hadn't ridden the Giro he would be 2-1 favourite over Andy at best (I would have seen it being almost 50/50) but that's a discussion we can't get an answer to. If Contador wins I guess I was wrong, if Andy wins we'll know next year if they both match up at 100%.

 

[Dermie]

And to think they were complaining about narrow roads during the first week...

Yeah but they are not doin50ks ph

 

[Publicus]

Unless my eyes deceive me, AC is riding alone (teammates in the bunch but behind him)

 

[Tuarts]

Ligget hasn't seen Hoogerland race before! Can't have watched that much cycling then... the chump!

 

[Ramira]

Unless my eyes deceive me, AC is riding alone (teammates in the bunch but behind him)

Hmm really? I'd have to look at that closely you'd at least expect Navarro or Hernandez with him.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Ligget hasn't seen Hoogerland race before! Can't have watched that much cycling then... the chump!

What the hell? What was he saying?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Ligget hasn't seen Hoogerland race before! Can't have watched that much cycling then... the chump!

Liggett never watched the Vuelta then? Or Lombardia? Or Flanders? Or well any race where Hoogerland enters (and attacks)?

 

[Ramira]

Ligget hasn't seen Hoogerland race before! Can't have watched that much cycling then... the chump!

Well it is hard to watch more then 1 GT a year you know. You can't expect the guy to watch the Vuelta or Giro AND the tour, he's not a superman!!

 

[Publicus]

Nah I just think terms like "best of an era" gets thrown around way to easy. He is without a doubt the best GT rider of the post-Armstrong generation. But to start calling every period of 5 years where someone is the best an era just doesn't seem right to me. Would that mean that if Andy wins the next 3 or 4 tour's he's the best of his era? For me an Era has to be something long and exceptional not something that happens more or less every decade.

And I might be a bit of a fanboy but after last year's tour and the relative young age of Andy I believe that if Contador hadn't ridden the Giro he would be 2-1 favourite over Andy at best (I would have seen it being almost 50/50) but that's a discussion we can't get an answer to. If Contador wins I guess I was wrong, if Andy wins we'll know next year if they both match up at 100%.

Andy needs to win. Period. 9 wins for his entire career. Contador has that many wins THIS year.

 

[Liquigas]

TGBM suffering at the back of the peloton...

 

[Carl0880]

Ligget hasn't seen Hoogerland race before! Can't have watched that much cycling then... the chump!

I was thinking the same thing, are you kidding me. Playing to the american audience again who only knows the TDF.


WIth the fact he lost 52 minutes I wonder if Kreziger will give chase to the polka dot jersey since they dont have a GC guy and no sprinter.