2011 Tour De France Stage 17 (20/7/2011): Gap > Pinerolo, 179km

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sportzchick said:
Read the alliance thread...

I started that thread as a bit of fun......then Hitchy pants got all samu serious and then there was another thread joined who knows what Ivan and Cadel think of each other, Aldo was very important to both doesn't mean they are mates
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Parrulo said:
not saying he can. but he needs to ride those races in order to gain experience don't you think?

Well, i don't know how badly he is injured and i guess neither do you. Let's just hope that Movistar team doctors are not clueless morons.
 
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just some guy said:
I started that thread as a bit of fun......then Hitchy pants got all samu serious and then there was another thread joined who knows what Ivan and Cadel think of each other, Aldo was very important to both doesn't mean they are mates
True but it would be likely they would be then not...

Don't need to be mates to prefer one rider over another

It was a gut feelin based on that
 
BYOP88 said:
As I've said before I don't mind if Evans wins, but he can't afford to lose time, as I don't think his ITT is that great anymore, remember in '08 he couldn't overall that well known ITT specialist Sastre. If the other favs go early, like the 2nd climb he'll struggle especially if Contador and A.Schleck do their start/stop/start/stop/start attacks.

If Evans has yellow jersey i think he can podium the tt, beat even Contador and lose just to Spartacus and Tony.
 
just some guy said:
I started that thread as a bit of fun......then Hitchy pants got all samu serious and then there was another thread joined who knows what Ivan and Cadel think of each other, Aldo was very important to both doesn't mean they are mates

Could you stop insulting me at every turn? Would appreciate it cheers.

Also once again i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Since you bring me into it, i would like to know however, so maybe you want to be a bit more clear in your posts.

What i can gather is that you dont like that i posted in a thread of yours. Then you mention something about another thread and say i ruined it by talking about Samu (Even though that thread was about Samu, go figure).

In fact in that thread, if you actually read my posts im actually praising Contador not Samu saying Contador did most of the work, but hey, actually reading my posts would be a lot more difficult than finding an excuse to insult me rigtht?
 
May 14, 2010
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Oldman said:
Geez, you want panache? Getting on the podium takes huge talent, dedication, luck and thoughtful use of human resources. Asking for pointless flair smacks of a dilettante's appreciation for the race IMO.

Sure, any win is still a win. Still, it would be nice to see it attained through aggression in addition to smart defense. Of course, Cadel doesn't need to be concerned with our opinions and won't be. He'll take the win any way he can get it, as would you or I.

I'm not sure how fans watching at home can be anything other than dilettantes, unless by dilettante you mean sometime-watcher or Tour-only watcher. I'm pretty sure many of those who appreciate panache in a race wouldn't fall under that heading.

Zinoviev Letter said:
Unless Contador shows some unexpected (but after the Giro not entirely improbable) weakness on one of the mountain stages, attacking him is the last thing Evans should be doing at this point.

But he might have the opportunity under a variety of scenarios - and if he does I trust he will take them.

jilbiker said:
I like Cadel and I could root for him except that he rides passive aggression. I cannot remember a time when Cadel has attacked in all the years, a nice solo attack, not reaction to someone else's attack. Its been sit and wait for mistakes. Sort of reminds me of squash in the 70s and 80s, game of attrition until Jonathan Power of Canada changed squash with aggressive play and brought some excitment. The schlecks are also passive aggressive...BORING.

Force your opponent to make mistakes. That is ACs way, take the battle to the field.

And that is exactly why AC garners so much respect among racing fans.
 
sportzchick said:
True but it would be likely they would be then not...

Don't need to be mates to prefer one rider over another

It was a gut feelin based on that

Actually I think Basso really admires Contador. He's talking him up in every interview. And I've seen pics of them together and they seem to like each other.
 
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The Hitch said:
Could you stop insulting me at every turn? Would appreciate it cheers.

Also once again i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Since you bring me into it, i would like to know however, so maybe you want to be a bit more clear in your posts.

Is hitchy pants an insult? Relax a bit

You posted a very serious post on a fun thread on alliances go read it again. Just think you need to relax re Sammy and calling others fanboys
 
Scirea said:
Well, i don't know how badly he is injured and i guess neither do you. Let's just hope that Movistar team doctors are not clueless morons.

it has been getting worse ever since stage 9. and i would say that when you finish 6 minutes down on the sprinters on a stage like this, its pretty bad
 
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sportzchick said:
Didnt.... Just a gut feeling...

Nonsense, he has always been full of praise with Contador.

There's only one cyclist that wants Cuddles to win in this peloton that isn't on his team. The rest hate his guts because he's a weirdo slave driver.
 
May 14, 2010
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El Pistolero said:
Nonsense, he has always been full of praise with Contador.

There's only one cyclist that wants Cuddles to win in this peloton that isn't on his team. The rest hate his guts because he's a weirdo slave driver.

Lol. Exactly how do you know that?
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Actually I think Basso really admires Contador. He's talking him up in every interview. And I've seen pics of them together and they seem to like each other.

I rhink everybody likes Basso. Always smiling climbs with that goofy grin on his face and a super hot sis.
 
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Maxiton said:
Lol. Exactly how do you know that?

All his ex team mates talk bad of him.

Staf Scheirlinck told a story about him yesterday how he yelled at him "get me a coke NOOOWWWWW" in a race with an angry loud voice. One of the many stories about Cuddles... I've never heard any ex team mate of him except Phil say a good word about him. Some have called him weird, others autistic, eccentric, etc

When pro cyclists openly say they don't want Cuddles to win than you now something is wrong with him.
 
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Lajeretta4Ever said:
I rhink everybody likes Basso. Always smiling climbs with that goofy grin on his face and a super hot sis.
Simoni doesn't... :p
El Pistolero said:
All his ex team mates talk bad of him.

Staf Scheirlinck told a story about him yesterday how he yelled at him "get me a coke NOOOWWWWW" in a race with an angry loud voice. One of the many stories about Cuddles...
Maybe he should've gotten him a coke.