2011 Tour de France Stage 6: Dinan - Lisieux, 226.5 km

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King Of The Wolds said:
The way some of you guys talk, you'd think my nan could win a stage if she had the HTC train.

Some of his wins are better than others but yes they always require plenty of speed. Gilbert should be proud of how he sprinted yesterday also.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Oh great, SBS are doing a piece on Cavendish before the stage which will supposedly make me admire him...I highly doubt that.

ACF...you don't like Cav? Who knew? :)
 
King Of The Wolds said:
The way some of you guys talk, you'd think my nan could win a stage if she had the HTC train.

They go hand and hand, Cavendish wins because of his train, but his train is so good because they know they have the best sprinter. Both can still win races without each other, but the combination makes it really deadly.

Its no coincidence that in the last 15 years, the 2 best sprint trains in the sport also came through with the most victories, and they also had the head above the rest best sprinter.

You had the Fassa Bartolo sprint train of the early 2000s, with Petacchi as the sprinter who had a Tour where he won 3 or 4 stages in the first 10 before abandoning (2003), and a year with 9 stage wins in the Giro.

Then in the late 90s you had the "Red Guard" in the Saeco train with Cipollini, who won all those stage at the Giro and 4 stages in the first 10 in the Tour (1999 if i recall).

We didn't have a dominate sprinter until Cavendish the last couple of years, who has the famous HTC train.

The years in between Fassa and HTC, we had a group of sprinters who won several races (Boonen, Hushovd, McEwen, Petacchi), with Boonen and Petacchi still having a sprint train, but nothing like these other 3 examples.
 
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Carl0880 said:
They go hand and hand, Cavendish wins because of his train, but his train is so good because they know they have the best sprinter. Both can still win races without each other, but the combination makes it really deadly.

Its no coincidence that in the last 15 years, the 2 best sprint trains in the sport also came through with the most victories, and they also had the head above the rest best sprinter.

You had the Fassa Bartolo sprint train of the early 2000s, with Petacchi as the sprinter who had a Tour where he won 3 or 4 stages in the first 10 before abandoning (2003), and a year with 9 stage wins in the Giro.

Then in the late 90s you had the "Red Guard" in the Saeco train with Cipollini, who won all those stage at the Giro and 4 stages in the first 10 in the Tour (1999 if i recall).

We didn't have a dominate sprinter until Cavendish the last couple of years, who has the famous HTC train.

The years in between Fassa and HTC, we had a group of sprinters who won several races (Boonen, Hushovd, McEwen, Petacchi), with Boonen and Petacchi still having a sprint train, but nothing like these other 3 examples.

Oooh, Bring back the days of Fassa with Ale jet. Personally I don't think some people realise how fast Ale Jet was. He would give Cav a run for his money. it is quite amazing that Ale jet still hsa one of the biggest accelerations in the peleton.
 
Carl0880 said:
They go hand and hand, Cavendish wins because of his train, but his train is so good because they know they have the best sprinter. Both can still win races without each other, but the combination makes it really deadly.

Its no coincidence that in the last 15 years, the 2 best sprint trains in the sport also came through with the most victories, and they also had the head above the rest best sprinter.

If a team has the best sprinter in their team then he's worth it to specialize your entire team into a leadout train for that sprinter as it's a 100% success formula.
If a team leads Cav out properly then your 100% sure he will win. Right now there ain't many other sprinters(if there are any at all) who will give you that 100% garantee.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Oooh, Bring back the days of Fassa with Ale jet. Personally I don't think some people realise how fast Ale Jet was. He would give Cav a run for his money. it is quite amazing that Ale jet still hsa one of the biggest accelerations in the peleton.

2OO4 Giro was something else, 9 stages and pretty much owned the sprints.
Definatley a legendary rider.
 
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sublimit said:
2OO4 Giro was something else, 9 stages and pretty much owned the sprints.
Definatley a legendary rider.

+1 - He's one of my favourites. I find him exciting to watch. Very smooth and suave character.