2011 Vuelta a España - Stage 13: Sarria - Ponferrada 158.2 km (2/9)

[Zinoviev Letter]

I really hope that he hasn't been given a penalty.

 

[Descender]

Holding on to get a bottle? I didnt think that was a 20 second penalty, just a fine?

Or a "You're not Spanish" penalty.

Mosquera got a 20 second penalty for holding on to a bottle two years ago.

 

[Frosty]

20th place at 3.13. Going to be hard work for Sky trying to make sure that a break doesnt go away with one of those in it tomorrow.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Moreno is the new leader in the combinada classification, Mollema now 2nd there

 

[Anonymous]

Thought it was near the top of the last climb - and that was with 27km to go. Certainly were going uphill at the time from what i remember.

Then if it was on the climb, i'd bet its a sticky bottle punishment

pretty stupid for the team leader to collect bottles on a climb in front of the cameras.

 

[mb2612]

I can't think of anything more controversial than giving a penalty to a serious GC contender

 

[Oreknan]

nibali appears 2º overall now

 

[royalpig180]

Sure would ruin things if Nibali got a time penalty for something stupid. If he actually did something worth penalizing, whatever, but getting a bottle is a silly reason for a penalty.

 

[Cogombre]

I can't think of anything more controversial than giving a penalty to a serious GC contender

What about a slow wheel change.

 

[Zoncolan]

nibali appeared 2º overall now

Vuelta site has him in 5th, 24" down.
http://www.lavuelta.com/11/es/resultados/index.html?e=8

 

[kurtinsc]

Sure would ruin things if Nibali got a time penalty for something stupid. If he actually did something worth penalizing, whatever, but getting a bottle is a silly reason for a penalty.

Given how common "sticky bottles" are in cycling, he doesn't deserve a penalty for that.

But if I could have my way, every race would give out penalties for that. It always bugs me seeing someone hang on to the bottle for 3-4 seconds during the exchange to get a break.

It's not fair... but I'm not going to be upset if that's what it is. That has always bugged me.

 

[Frosty]

He may have been missed out of the first results (wouldnt be the first) but Scarponi is not showing up yet in the main group. Maybe taking it easy today to get in the attack tomorrow or on Sunday?

 

[Oreknan]

Vuelta site has him in 5th, 24" down.
http://www.lavuelta.com/11/es/resultados/index.html?e=8

in tv coverage they put him 2nd

 

[Frosty]

Given how common "sticky bottles" are in cycling, he doesn't deserve a penalty for that.

But if I could have my way, every race would give out penalties for that. It always bugs me seeing someone hang on to the bottle for 3-4 seconds during the exchange to get a break.

It's not fair... but I'm not going to be upset if that's what it is. That has always bugged me.

Wish i'd been videoing when a rider came past holding a bottle at about 4km to go on Avoriaz last year. Was going about 25mph

 

[Maxiton]

I saw that bottle hand-off. Ridiculous to penalize him for that. Sucks!

 

[Winterfold]

""Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence"

 

[Escarabajo]

Nibs probably got a delayed penalty from the Fedaia Pass.

 

[Descender]

Wish i'd been videoing when a rider came past holding a bottle at about 4km to go on Avoriaz last year. Was going about 25mph

In the last Giro di Lombardia, one of the last riders (a Norwegian sky rider whose name I forgot) did the entire upper part of the San Fermo climb holding on to a spectator's car.

 

[goggalor]

What about a slow wheel change.

He actually got a penalty as well on that stage.

 

[TeoSheva]

nibali back to 4 sec in GC

 

[roundabout]

Yeah. Crisis averted.

 

[Anonymous]

just re-watched nibs bottle duty. was at 22km to go, took three bottles, maybe 2-3 seconds sticky, and one brief car grab. nothing major

 

[wirral]

Did Scarponi abandon?

 

[spalco]

Given how common "sticky bottles" are in cycling, he doesn't deserve a penalty for that.

But if I could have my way, every race would give out penalties for that. It always bugs me seeing someone hang on to the bottle for 3-4 seconds during the exchange to get a break.

It's not fair... but I'm not going to be upset if that's what it is. That has always bugged me.

But isn't the sticky-bottle-thing a safety issue too? Making sure the rider has the bottle in his hand without wiggling the bike or anything. Just think about what could happen if he lost his balance and fell under the car...

Unless it's very egregious and obviously deliberate I think it's crazy to hand out punishments for that.

 

[Zoncolan]

Yup. Looks like they did the right thing: http://www.lavuelta.com/11/es/resultados/index.html?e=8