2012 Giro d'Italia, May 7th, stage 3: Horsens → Horsens, 190K

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burning said:
Maybe i'm looking way too much ahead but if cavendish wins today and sky beats bmc by 8 seconds in ttt, cavendish will get maglia rosa

I can see it happening actually

Garmin could be a factor for rasmussen as well too

Definitely. Even if BMC beats Sky in the TTT though, Cavendish has a great chance for the pink jersey imo. With the 20 second bonuses he only needs to win 2 more stages to get it, assuming Sky doesn't lose badly in the TTT. There are no sprinters ahead of Cav in the GC anymore.
 
Mar 27, 2011
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I will actually tip Demare- for the fantasy CQ influence. Cav 2nd, Bos 3rd, Goss 4th and Guardini 5th.

I just want to mix it up.
 
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greenedge said:
I will actually tip Demare- for the fantasy CQ influence. Cav 2nd, Bos 3rd, Goss 4th and Guardini 5th.

I just want to mix it up.

Isn't Bos heart from falling yesterday?
 
Aug 6, 2011
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Everybody is complaining about today's stage, but everyone's going to watch it regardless. My question for all of the whiners: Why bother watching at all?

I actually like bunch sprint finishes, although yesterday's finish gave me the creeps. The nervousness at the front was immense, even Cavendish was literaly pushed from his train multiple times (of course, he repaid the pushers with some head pushes himself). I guess it was bitter luck that they held out until the last corner. The last couple of kilometers were not boring at all, that is, if you love sprinting and sprint preperation anarchy.

Judging from the stage profile, there are two sharp corners in the three kilometers in today's stage. Judging from that, I don't think we are going to see a clean finish today. That might just give Farrar his chance of winning for Wouter, although Cavendish has the skills to make it through almost anything.

The first of those sharp corners is a 90 degrees left turn, with, of course, a traffic refuge as you come out of the corner. I wonder what they are going to do with that: They can either seriously narrow the road there or leave it as it is which will cause a fight for the inside corner. Luckily the riders had two previous laps to inspect the situation.

Then, some 650 meters down the road, another tight 90 degrees corner, to the right this time, on a junction laden with refuges. From that corner, it is still 1.6 km to the finish, with only a very gentle right at 1.4 km to go.

The local lap has some other tight turns, but they are farther from the finish. There's a 'turning' zone at 7-4.7 km to go, which may cause some crashes, but we'll see.
 
Feb 20, 2010
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WillemS said:
Everybody is complaining about today's stage, but everyone's going to watch it regardless. My question for all of the whiners: Why bother watching at all?

I actually like bunch sprint finishes, although yesterday's finish gave me the creeps.

The bunch sprint finish isn't the problem. It's the endless stage of nothing happening that leads to it. If you get some tension, but the bunch wins out (like, say, the stage Farrar won in the Tour last year, or the Giro stage Weylandt won a couple of years ago), then that's fine. But a tightly controlled race where there's no thought of anything but a sprint is extremely boring until the last ten minutes.

If the two races clash today, I'm watching Dunkerque. It'll save you all the moaning.

Oh, and in other news, somebody who's in Horsens confirms José Serpa has signed on for the day and will start, but his hand is bandaged up quite heavily. Hopefully he'll be OK by the time the race reaches his playgrounds.
 
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Surely Goss is the only sprinter in form at the moment to challenge Cav, after five second there has to be a 1st place soon!
Go GreenEdge!
 
Jun 10, 2010
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Random Direction said:
Wow - I didn't know they had a party (thanks, Babelfish):

José Rodolfo Serpa do not appear tomorrow possible to the start of the third stage of the giro d' Italia. The 33 person whose birthday it is Colombian of Androni Giocattoli-Venezuela break its hand at a fall party in the second stage of the Italian etappekoers. After the stage Serpa, which season earlier this the Tour won the Langkawi (UCI 2.HC), the hospital have visited.
Well having a fall party in the middle of a race is just irresponsible.
 
Feb 20, 2010
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Wouter Weylandt's sister has just addressed the crowd pre-stage. She wished the participants good luck, thanked the riders, staff and especially the fans for the incredible support the family have received over the past 12 months, and that she hopes today's winner will smile after the stage. They then played Wouter's favourite song over the PA.
 
Sep 30, 2011
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Libertine Seguros said:
Wouter Weylandt's sister has just addressed the crowd pre-stage. She wished the participants good luck, thanked the riders, staff and especially the fans for the incredible support the family have received over the past 12 months, and that she hopes today's winner will smile after the stage. They then played Wouter's favourite song over the PA.

kings of leon sex is on fire?
 
Dec 30, 2011
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El Pistolero said:
Erm, John Lelangue moved to Monaco to be closer to Gilbert and Hushovd, so I very much doubt it ;)

Sky boys would suffer like hell if they went training with Gilbert, especially Cavendish ;)

(Well, not this year's Gilbert :D)

Most of these guys train apart anyway, in most teams. Besides, BMC is an American team.
BMC is more Swiss than American and anyway to me it seems like they have more of a European mentality, yet the fact is that RSNT also train like that and they are certainly American (as opposed to being Luxembourgian)
Of course Sky would suffer if they went training with BMC:rolleyes:.
But that is irrelevant as we are not talking about how hard they train or how strong they are but rather the minute details and techniques which are incorporated into the training.
Also of course Lelangue and whoever else train and help Hushovd, Gilbert and co. but that has no impact on the structure of their training, you do expect generally for top riders to have coaches close but whether the riders are ruled by the coaches or not is a different question.

Freddo said:
Surely Goss is the only sprinter in form at the moment to challenge Cav, after five second there has to be a 1st place soon!
Go GreenEdge!

Well considering Cav's track record Goss may not get a chance. I guess it all matters on Sky if they can get Cav up there everytime then he will finish it everytime but if we have more repeats of yesterday then that might be difficult as we saw with last year's tour when Farrar won his stage.

Looking at the parcours though i would be strongly inclined to say that Goss will get his stage win though as there are at least 2 stages up to 4 which Cav may not be able to survive until the finish yet Goss may and of course on the basis of yesterday Goss seems to be the best of the rest so he should win.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Wouter Weylandt's sister has just addressed the crowd pre-stage. She wished the participants good luck, thanked the riders, staff and especially the fans for the incredible support the family have received over the past 12 months, and that she hopes today's winner will smile after the stage. They then played Wouter's favourite song over the PA.

Awesome, thanks LS. It must not have been easy for her to speak where WW had his successes and where he ultimately died.

Zam_Olyas said:
kings of leon sex is on fire?

Yep, at least that is what I read too.

theyoungest said:
I don't know if anyone will dare to challenge Tyler Farrar today.

Even if they do I think Tyler will fight back a lot more today than he did yesterday. I hope Tyler manages to win again for Wouter.
 
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If Tyler does win today, he will be the best placed Garmin rider on the GC, 16" behind Phinney. If Garmin were to win the TTT by the required amount, he would pull on the maglia rosa on May 9, 2012.

Wouter Weylandt died on May 9, 2011.

Similarly, I am desperately hoping Beñat Intxausti can win Stage 17 - probably would be from the breakaway - in Cortina d'Ampezzo after Valparola, Duran, Forcella Staulanza and Giau. This stage happens on May 23, 2012, one year to the day after teammate and friend Xavier Tondó died in his arms.
 
May 25, 2010
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Oltean_RO said:
Isn't Bos heart from falling yesterday?

Yes he is hurt, but he would decide during the stage if he or Renshaw will go for the win. He said that if he suffers from his crash he won't spoil Renshaws chances.
 
May 25, 2010
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Libertine Seguros said:
Wouter Weylandt's sister has just addressed the crowd pre-stage. She wished the participants good luck, thanked the riders, staff and especially the fans for the incredible support the family have received over the past 12 months, and that she hopes today's winner will smile after the stage. They then played Wouter's favourite song over the PA.

Nice. Very nice.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Similarly, I am desperately hoping Beñat Intxausti can win Stage 17 - probably would be from the breakaway - in Cortina d'Ampezzo after Valparola, Duran, Forcella Staulanza and Giau. This stage happens on May 23, 2012, one year to the day after teammate and friend Xavier Tondó died in his arms.
I think Theo Bos will dedicate a possible stage win (unlikely, but anyway) to Xavi Tondo as well. He even has this on his bike:

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Dec 27, 2010
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Libertine Seguros said:
If Tyler does win today, he will be the best placed Garmin rider on the GC, 16" behind Phinney. If Garmin were to win the TTT by the required amount, he would pull on the maglia rosa on May 9, 2012.

Wouter Weylandt died on May 9, 2011.

Similarly, I am desperately hoping Beñat Intxausti can win Stage 17 - probably would be from the breakaway - in Cortina d'Ampezzo after Valparola, Duran, Forcella Staulanza and Giau. This stage happens on May 23, 2012, one year to the day after teammate and friend Xavier Tondó died in his arms.

I'll also be cheering for Tyler today and Intxausti on the Giau stage. Would be great to see.
 
Feb 20, 2010
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theyoungest said:
I think Theo Bos will dedicate a possible stage win (unlikely, but anyway) to Xavi Tondo as well.

Of course, Bos is an ex-teammate of Xavi's from Cervélo. It would be nice to see. I think Bos gets an awful lot of undue criticism and mockery, and as a big fan of Xavi's I think it would be lovely both for Xavi and for Theo.

I have to say though, I can't see Bos winning the anniversary stage though!

Break of the day (according to Movistar's twitter):

Navardauskas (Garmin)
Keizer (Vacansoleil)
Mínguez (Euskaltel)
Hollenstein (NetApp)
Balloni (Farnese Vini) - GPM leader
Christensen (Saxo Bank)
 
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dlwssonic said:
People should not underestimate BMC for the TTT. people were expecting cadel to lose loads of time in the TTT last year. They have Hushovd, Pinotti, Phinney, Frank and Ballan who will lead the team, however there are a few weak links as this BMC team has quite a lot of climbers. So I don't think they are that bad.
But of course now where near garmin, GE level. I expect sky to do better too.

the only reason bmc, did that well; in last years tour ttt, was because they started last and the wind changed.

bmc in ttt is **** ugly. they won't even make top 3. I will bet any avatar on that
 
Mar 31, 2010
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WillemS said:
Everybody is complaining about today's stage, but everyone's going to watch it regardless. My question for all of the whiners: Why bother watching at all?

I actually like bunch sprint finishes, although yesterday's finish gave me the creeps. The nervousness at the front was immense, even Cavendish was literaly pushed from his train multiple times (of course, he repaid the pushers with some head pushes himself). I guess it was bitter luck that they held out until the last corner. The last couple of kilometers were not boring at all, that is, if you love sprinting and sprint preperation anarchy.

Judging from the stage profile, there are two sharp corners in the three kilometers in today's stage. Judging from that, I don't think we are going to see a clean finish today. That might just give Farrar his chance of winning for Wouter, although Cavendish has the skills to make it through almost anything.

The first of those sharp corners is a 90 degrees left turn, with, of course, a traffic refuge as you come out of the corner. I wonder what they are going to do with that: They can either seriously narrow the road there or leave it as it is which will cause a fight for the inside corner. Luckily the riders had two previous laps to inspect the situation.

Then, some 650 meters down the road, another tight 90 degrees corner, to the right this time, on a junction laden with refuges. From that corner, it is still 1.6 km to the finish, with only a very gentle right at 1.4 km to go.

The local lap has some other tight turns, but they are farther from the finish. There's a 'turning' zone at 7-4.7 km to go, which may cause some crashes, but we'll see.


this is where you are completely wrong. are yoiu even aware of the increidble different in tv ratings between flat stages and mountainstages in the giro? in italy it's 4x!! less viewers during flat stages. that's why giro organisers have put in such sick courses over the years
 

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