2012 Giro d'Italia, May 7th, stage 3: Horsens → Horsens, 190K

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Bavarianrider said:
Don't understand this wrong.
I am by no means defending the crash.
But to take something positiv out of it. For Cavs personality it might not be the worst thing to learn how the road feels himself. Maybe this will make him a bit more considerate and humble.

It's not exactly the first time he's ever felt the road though is it? I'm sure he knows what it feels like by now. If I was him it'd just make me very angry.
 
Apr 14, 2010
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Four Winds said:
Considering what Renshaw got chucked off the Tour for, he very lucky to be still in the race.

Indeed. And in the Renshaw case its not like Dean wasn't bringing some of it on himself. It got physical but no one was hurt and both knew exactly what they were doing.
 
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therhodeo said:
I see what you're saying but what happened today leaves it all open to "I would have won but for that idiot Ferarri". If he'd been beaten fair and square it would have been better.

Indeed, but Cav has won from where he was today plenty of times, it's reasonably likely he could have won today even though his leadout was poor and he had alot to do. We'll never know now sadly, a good sprint finish ruined by a terrible bit of riding.
 
Jul 20, 2010
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Bavarianrider said:
Don't understand this wrong.
I am by no means defending the crash.
But to take something positiv out of it. For Cavs personality it might not be the worst thing to learn how the road feels himself. Maybe this will make him a bit more considerate and humble.

Cavendish is a far safer sprinter than many, will often sacrifice a chance to win in order to avoid causing a crash.
 
Oct 30, 2011
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Bavarianrider said:
Don't understand this wrong.
I am by no means defending the crash.
But to take something positiv out of it. For Cavs personality it might not be the worst thing to learn how the road feels himself. Maybe this will make him a bit more considerate and humble.

Since when have crashes caused by some arrogant moron made people more humble? If anything, I'd have thought it would make Cav feel even more like the world is against him.
 
Apr 14, 2010
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I really can't believe that they would allow a 2nd tier guy on a conti team endanger the pink jersey and one of the biggest stars in the race and not DQ him. Even if only from a business perspective.
 
Apr 14, 2010
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Inquitus said:
Indeed, but Cav has won from where he was today plenty of times, it's reasonably likely he could have won today even though his leadout was poor and he had alot to do. We'll never know now sadly, a good sprint finish ruined by a terrible bit of riding.

I don't think that was going to happen today though. Simply too far back.
 
Feb 20, 2010
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Four Winds said:
Considering what Renshaw got chucked off the Tour for, he very lucky to be still in the race. Relegation from 9th to last is absolutely no punishment at all.

I wonder if he wasn't Italian would the outcome have been different:rolleyes:

Renshaw was chucked off the Tour for headbutting Dean, THEN putting Farrar in the barriers with a wild move. One might have been a demotion, both was a DQ.

Also, as a leadout man, why would he care about being demoted, since he wasn't in the mix for points and his sprinter won anyway. The other option would be to demote Cavendish, but Cav did nothing wrong that day and didn't deserve punishing.
 
Jun 1, 2011
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egtalbot said:
Yikes, no remorse from Ferrari. He made a bad mistake then compounded it by not admitting it. I'm guessing that he may find himself the target of some self-enforcement by the peloton in future road stages.

He may be wishing that he had been tossed out before it's over. He'll get an earful. Mercy not be kind to him. I hope they all don't have to take the same flight down to Italy. He may want to take a drive.
 
Jun 10, 2010
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therhodeo said:
I don't think that was going to happen today though. Simply too far back.
He had already come up near the front and he had the highest speed. Some of you are too biased to see.
 

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Yeah for Goss.

Really bad bit of riding by Ferrari. Glad Cav and Phinney are ok.

I thought GE rode a great last 8km or so.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
These things tend to get themselves sorted out in the pro peloton, I think. I see a ditch in Ferrari's future.
I was thinking much the same thing.
It's a long, long road to Milan and such actions are not easily forgotten.
He'll certainly find it hard to slot into any train from now on.
 

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Oh and wtf was Ferrari banging his handle bars for as he crossed the line. Not like he had an actual chance to win, and he caused a big accident, yet he's angry his sprint got interrupted.
 
Jul 18, 2009
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Libertine Seguros said:
Renshaw was chucked off the Tour for headbutting Dean, THEN putting Farrar in the barriers with a wild move. One might have been a demotion, both was a DQ.

Also, as a leadout man, why would he care about being demoted, since he wasn't in the mix for points and his sprinter won anyway. The other option would be to demote Cavendish, but Cav did nothing wrong that day and didn't deserve punishing.

So explain to me how Ferrari will be remotely put out by his punishment?
 
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Four Winds said:
So explain to me how Ferrari will be remotely put out by his punishment?

I see nothing in the rules (or common sense) which says you treat different types of riders differently when it comes to penalty. If Ferrari was not DQ'd Renshaw was robbed - he endangered noone and did not influence the outcome of the race (nor were his actions likely to).
 
Jul 4, 2011
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Ferrari

I am shocked and disgusted by Ferrari. He is clearly not capable of competing in a professional sprint. In such a dangerous sport as this such manoeuvres should be taken extremely seriously and Ferrari should be thrown off the Giro!:mad:
 
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When was the last time someone was ejected for a racing incident? Has it even happened before?
 
Jul 16, 2010
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What Ferrari did was wrong, but sprinters like Petacchi, Feillu, Bos, Van Hummel and Cavendish have all done similar things...
 
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El Pistolero said:
What Ferrari did was wrong, but sprinters like Petacchi, Feillu, Bos, Van Hummel and Cavendish have all done similar things...
Good luck finding specific examples. I don't think even Cav's Tour de Suisse folly compares, even if, by a matter of pure luck, it resulted in more serious injuries to his victims.

Bos, well, possibly. But he was suspended.
 
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hrotha said:
Good luck finding specific examples. I don't think even Cav's Tour de Suisse folly compares, even if, by a matter of pure luck, it resulted in more serious injuries to his victims.

Bos, well, possibly. But he was suspended.

Petacchi in Tour of Turkey when sprinting against Greipel last year, Bos in Tour of Turkey when he took down Impey, Cav in Tour de Suisse twice, Feillu ALL THE FREAKING TIME, Van Hummel in Tour of Belgium last year.

That was incredibly easy.
 
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El Pistolero said:
Petacchi in Tour of Turkey when sprinting against Greipel, Bos in Tour of Turkey when he took down Impey, Cav in Tour de Suisse twice, Feillu ALL THE FREAKING TIME, Van Hummel in Tour of Belgium last year.

That was incredibly easy.
I already addressed two of those. Care to post videos?