2012 Giro d'Italia, May 7th, stage 3: Horsens → Horsens, 190K

[Geraint Too Fast]

Has anybody posted this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGXn249Fc0

 

[CatsNK]

Wow the guy behind cav who casually bunny hops over him, so sick bike handling. liqui or farnese, couldn't see.

Ha ha - just watched the stage replay on Universal Sports - that was terrific, wasn't it!? He just kept right on going - pretty impressive at that speed on such a twitchy bike!

 

[simo1733]

How is Phinney still the race leader if he didn't cross the line under his own steam?

 

[delbified]

Not another fanboy. . Kittel and an in-form Greipel ought to beat Goss 9 out of 10 times in a flat sprint. A hilly finish probably suits Goss better though.

kittel is good. he dominated the Sun-Tour last October. none of the Continental team sprinters could get near him.

 

[joe_papp]

How is Phinney still the race leader if he didn't cross the line under his own steam?

there's a UCI rule that says if you crash in final 3km and don't cross the line as a result of needing medical attention you still get the bunch time (assuming you fell out of the bunch) and have a chance to start the next day's stage?

 

[Cal_Joe]

Has anybody posted this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGXn249Fc0

Priceless. Thank you.

 

[simo1733]

there's a UCI rule that says if you crash in final 3km and don't cross the line as a result of needing medical attention you still get the bunch time (assuming you fell out of the bunch) and have a chance to start the next day's stage?

I knew about the " same time" rule for a crash in the last 3k, but I thought you had to cross the line with bike no matter what. Hence Cavendish walking across the line with his broken Pinarello on his shoulder.

 

[kcbworth]

Personally think Ferrari's only crime is being slower than Cav. I've often seen Cav himself break out of someones slipstream wildly, it's just that he's going so fast that the guy behind is at no risk of running into him.

 

[ElChingon]

Has anybody posted this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGXn249Fc0

Sometimes the stereotypes come true

 

[Steinar]

Personally think Ferrari's only crime is being slower than Cav. I've often seen Cav himself break out of someones slipstream wildly, it's just that he's going so fast that the guy behind is at no risk of running into him.

Cav was actually doing that only seconds before Ferrari did it. He didn't cross as far as Ferrari but still

 

[Parrulo]

I think people are being too harsh on ferrari, yes it was a stupid decision but it is a kind of decision many sprinters have done before, some with good results some with non results(no win but no crashes either) and some with very bad results like ferrari this time.

I also think it's pretty common knowledge on his forum that i am a big cav fan because as a mechanical engineer his super aerodynamic and effective sprinting style is a master piece of human engineering in my humble opinion, but the way he acted was pathetic as his reckless sprinting style on the TdS 2010 resulted in the end of hausslers season(still not back to his 2009 level) and boonen's season, so he should think twice before talking.

this is a bit(euphemism) off topic and as a mod i should be ashamed of it but i am trying to read this forum into sobriety(is this the right word? ) yes we mods also have our flaws so please forgive me for it, so i will say it anyway. At the end of the day cav may the fastest sprinter ever but he will never be nowhere near boonen's level as a cyclists( notice the word cyclist) simply because he has never done anything that made him look like a true hard man of cyclist like so many of the big names of the current peloton have done.

 

[bridgeman]

Ferrari needs to be sent home. Plain and simple. Only when he is watching the race from his couch will it sink in.

 

[fatsprintking]

You used to have to cross the finish line back in the good old days, but this is one of the reasons they brought int he 1k and then 3k rule. It was not maybe a good look having blokes with blood and guts everywhere trying to crawl to the finish.

Cav is just walking to the finish as that is where his team guys are and because of the baracades he cant just go sideways and the team cars have already been diverted up the slip road so not choice but to leg it.

Ferarri move is very very bad because he is slowing down while other riders are kicking. Cav can move side to side as he is almost always going a lot faster than everyone else and so there is generally no real danger. Ferarri see's Farrar pulling away and goes to try and follow his wheel becuase he does not have the speed to sprint for himself down the inside. People are ****ed because he should know that there will be faster riders coming down the outside, but he does a full on hook rather than looking for a gap or drifting to the right.

Cav should stop sooking about it, but Ferarri's move was really really bad and not necessary as he had heaps of room and about 10 beter options re what he could do.

 

[TubularBills]

Tainted Giro.

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8463924

regardless of the outcome.

 

[Swabian Lass]

Ferarri's move was stupid and irresponsible. He's not fast enough to pull that kind of move and he had better options, but it's not criminal. When you're sprinting at that speed you're making split second decisions and some of them will be wrong. Sometimes people get hurt, but that's sprinting for you. The punishment was in proportion to the crime, 'nough said.

 

[uphillstruggle]

Goss and greenedge are looking to win stages in he Tour this year and he will go for the green jersey.

Cav's acceleration is still on another level to everyone elses, as seen by how quickly he comes up in stage three. It will be interesting to see the greenedge tactics to counter this. They will obviously try a few things at the giro to test out options for the tour. It is interesting that Cav got lost early in stage three and that riders were looking for the wheel of Goss early due to greenedge having the best train - you might have a situation of Cav just trying to find Gossy's wheel and abandoning his own train.

Cav will be even more isolated at the tour. Wiggins and a few others will not be part of the sprint train so his train will be no where near the perfection of the HTC one. Greenedge have, on paper at least, the best train for many years so they can swamp anything Sky can put together. It should mean more interesting flat stages in the tour. Not great for Cav though.

 

[fatsprintking]

Cav might have to ride a bit like McEwen used to. It will be an interesting mix if everyone is trying to get to Gossys wheel. This is one area where Cav's lack of size might be a negative factor in terms of holding position.

You would think that Greenedge would be thinking that their best bet would be a super fast run in where Goss gets released at as high a speed as possible as close to the line as possible to negate Cav's jump. This maybe helps out guys like Griepel if it becomes more about strength than speed. Should be fun.

 

[PedalCastro]

Cav has blocked me from his twitter account for suggesting it was an honest mistake by Ferrari and that maybe he has made mistakes in races before? Oh well!!

 

[greenedge]

lol at that.

I can finally post ( after having been waking up early- going to school excursion, then having soccer ) about how I am very happy that Goss won. He is my favourite sprinter ( now that McEwan is past his prime ) and is of course Aussie. Stage 2 he showed that he has speed and can challenge Cav- today he got his first win of the year off the back of a dedicated team effort that placed him perfectly. I was starting to be concerned as to when he would win after his Turkey performance but this is good that he went so well- hopefully he and Cav can keep on fighting all year round in sprints ( with Greipel, Kittel and others ).

When i watched the finish there might have been a few choice words of excitement.

I feel sorry for Cav in the crash- it looked painful. Even though Ferrari was doing this in a sprint he should have held his line a bit more, not dived at a 45 degree angle.

 

[greenedge]

kittel is good. he dominated the Sun-Tour last October. none of the Continental team sprinters could get near him.

Hoff nearly did though

 

[will10]

Cav has blocked me from his twitter account for suggesting it was an honest mistake by Ferrari and that maybe he has made mistakes in races before? Oh well!!

What did you expect?

 

[Cykelbloggar]

Of course it´s a pity when Riders crash, but it seems that Cavendish is trying a become a saint. Cavendish has during many years got critisism because of his many reckless spring. http://youtu.be/-RNAYR3KPIg look at this movie when Heinrich Häusler went down because of Cavendish, Häussler hasn´t reached his former top after this.

OK Roberto made a misstake, many riders do that, escpeially when you try to win a race, but Please Cav, your ain´t a saint during sprints. I can share many many more clipps showing how you go from left to right and back during a sprint.

/Fritz

 

[Swabian Lass]

I thought that Cavendish was pretty mild really, for him. however kept hold of his iPhone afterwards did a good job. Agree for cav to complain about a reckless sprint is a bit "Hi pot, you're black. Love kettle."

 

[killswitch]

Kelly adds that the rider who is the perpetrator one day may end up being the victim the next. Such is the nature of sprinting.

“I think Cavendish had a problem in the Tour of Switzerland…he said then he didn’t do anything wrong and it went on for a bit of time where people were saying, ‘he put Boonen out of the Tour de France, he put Boonen out of the rest of the season.’

“There was a lot of talk about that. It wasn’t taken lightly that he didn’t say then, ‘okay, well, I made a mistake.’”

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...o-apologise-for-Giro-crash.aspx#ixzz1uH2LlbPp

 

[PedalCastro]

What did you expect?

I expected as much, not too pushed really. Guess he doesnt like his new found guise as 'protecter of all that is Right within the peloton' being challenged