2012 Giro d'Italia wildcards:Who would you like to see?

[Straßenrennen]

Team Net App, anyone?

im for net App.

 

[pmcg76]

I would like to see Coldeportes invited to the Giro but only to add a bit of diversity. To be honest that is the only reason they will be invited if it happens, because on paper they are weaker than all of the Italian teams and It4i. Take Duarte out of Coldeportes and they are on the level of some of the weaker teams listed.

I mean Pena and Laverde are long past it, yes Chavez won Tour de l'Avenir but that is an amateur race these days as for the rest of the team, you can write their results on a matchbox. Are a team with one proven rider, 2 over the hill guys and 6 GT novices really worthy of a GT invite. If they produce the reuslts this year then fine but right now, other than the sentimental value they dont have a lot to offer.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Hey folks, we would like to write a news story on your opinions on this matter. Either write you opinion again -- which team and why -- or tell me if it is ok to quote your earlier posts.

thanks!

Susan

 

[just some guy]

Hey folks, we would like to write a news story on your opinions on this matter. Either write you opinion again -- which team and why -- or tell me if it is ok to quote your earlier posts.

thanks!

Susan

I hope they break the mold same for all grand tours invite less of the home country teams and a greater amount of the best teams from wherever they come from.

Team type 1
coldeportes
project 1t4i
plus

acqua & sapone

For me not going to happen but international teams might make the racing more interesting as they see this as away to promote sponsors so will animated the race more that the " home " teams which expect to get an invite.

 

[plooton]

Team NetApp absolutely right choice. Besides Kreuziger another Czech leader at Giro

 

[will10]

I voted:

Androni - previous podium finisher in Jose Rujano, plus several potential stage winners in Serpa, Sella and Ferrari. Always visible whenever they get invites to the big races.

Farnese Vini - No longer have Visconti but still have enough quality to deserve an invite in my opinion. Gatto won a stage last year, Pozzato won a stage the year before that, and who wouldn't want to see Guardini go up against the best sprinters in the world at the Giro. The sprinter stages in the 2012 Giro are much more friendly to the "pure" sprinters so he would have a fair few chances even if he couldn't get through the mountains.

Acqua & Sapone - Tough call for the last two spots but I went for Acqua & Coldeportes over Colnago. Colnago regularly ride the Giro but given the exodus from their team for various reasons the last couple of years, they look to be overly reliant on Pozzovivo, who just can't seem to get it together at the Giro - illnesses, crashes etc. always seem to thwart him. Acqua have Di Luca and Garzelli, two former winners who can be relied upon to go for stage wins and KOM titles at least, plus an emerging star in Carlos Betancourt.

Coldeportes - Duarte impressed the last couple of years when he's ridden in Europe, unfortunately crashed out of last year's Giro when he was looking to be in great form (2nd on the Strade Bianche stage) Laverde and Pena have had success in Europe before but the other exciting young riders such as Chavez, Pantano and Atapuma have all impressed in the Tour de L'Avenir over the past few years. Also Juan Pablo Suarez had some great results in his first year outside Colombia in 2011 (6th in Léon, 2nd in Rioja & 7th in Asturias)

 

[Parrulo]

Hey folks, we would like to write a news story on your opinions on this matter. Either write you opinion again -- which team and why -- or tell me if it is ok to quote your earlier posts.

thanks!

Susan

i think you can do a little of both

here goes my opinion: i think the teams that would bring more to the giro this year would be the 4 italian teams plus coldeportes, all teams are very aggressive and have some good quality riders, farnese has pozzato, gatto and the most promising italian sprinter(guardini), androni has a very strong team for the mountains and rujano will most likely be fighting for the overall win, A&S has 2 former winners(di luca and garzelli) and 1 very promising rider(betancourt) so they could bring a lot of excitement to the big high mountain stages same as coldeportes with duarte and a team full of colombian climbers the last choice would be between colnago and project 1t4i but imo pozzovivo deserves another chance to do well as he has been very unlucky for the past 2 years and modolo should be able to contender for a few stages so i would choose them over project 1t4i who would most likely only send their B squad with a few sprinters and be invisible for most of the race.

 

[The Hitch]

My opinion is that the wt system is unfair and greenedge, BMC and a few other teams which care little for the Giro should be content with invites for the Tour and Vuelta and let teams who dont get to ride GTs be invited.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Hey folks, we would like to write a news story on your opinions on this matter. Either write you opinion again -- which team and why -- or tell me if it is ok to quote your earlier posts.

thanks!

Susan

quote whatever you like and use poll results perhaps?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I hope they break the mold same for all grand tours invite less of the home country teams and a greater amount of the best teams from wherever they come from.

Team type 1
coldeportes
project 1t4i
plus

acqua & sapone

For me not going to happen but international teams might make the racing more interesting as they see this as away to promote sponsors so will animated the race more that the " home " teams which expect to get an invite.

completely the opposite is true as local teams are always more motivated

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

My opinion is that the wt system is unfair and greenedge, BMC and a few other teams which care little for the Giro should be content with invites for the Tour and Vuelta and let teams who dont get to ride GTs be invited.

perhaps uci could change this by given even more points to good gc classifications in gt's so it becomes vital from a points stand of view to score in at least 2 or 3 gt's

 

[jens_attacks]

thanks susan, maybe so rcs will keep in mind to not do something stupid .
if even christina watches beat those marketing teams of acquarone,that's nothing more to add.1t41 will be invited to le tour anyway so they shouldn't complain

 

[just some guy]

My opinion is that the wt system is unfair and greenedge, BMC and a few other teams which care little for the Giro should be content with invites for the Tour and Vuelta and let teams who dont get to ride GTs be invited.

this man says hello think he cares about the Giro

and by the by does Cav care about the Giro ? if you say yes the so does Greenedge you don´t have to have a GT rider to care.

 

[Ruudz0r]

My opinion is that the wt system is unfair and greenedge, BMC and a few other teams which care little for the Giro should be content with invites for the Tour and Vuelta and let teams who dont get to ride GTs be invited.

Exactly there should be something to make it possible that some WT teams would not ride all GTs. It's a shame that a team as FDJ (if they will send a team that I think they will send to the giro) will take a spot over Colnago, Farnese Vini or Coldeport.

Further I think Androni (Rujano, Serpa, Sella, Ferrari) and Aqua & Sapone (Di Luca, Garzelli, Betancourt, Taborre) will be certain of a spot in the Giro (and fully deserve it).

For the remaining spots I hope they go to Colnago and Coldeport. Colnago has an attractive team for the Giro besides Pozzovivo, Pirazzi and Brambilla will give colour to the Giro by attacking like crazy man, Modolo might show himself in the sprints, maybe Piechele can step it up in the sprints after a year full of injury, and they have (1 of) the biggest talent(s) in Italy in Battaglin.
Coldeport would also be a very nice team to have in the giro who could influence the race in the mountains and make the mountain stages more spectacular especially with Duarte, Suarez and Atapuma.

Farnese Vini would have a nice team aswell but for me they have the least to add to the giro from the 5 teams I mentioned. Ascani for the GC who has never ridden a GT before and will not be an attractive rider since he aint the attacking type. Pozzato and Gatto would could offer some attacking fun but they are less attractive and possible GC influencing (is that a word?) then the above named teams. The only real shame would be to not have Guardini in the giro.

If any other team besides the 5 above mentioned teams would get an invite I would cry.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Androni Giocattoli, Acqua & Sapone, Colnago CSF,Farnese Vini coz the riders they select will really care about il Giro and Coldeportes because they would fit nicely and they deserve a grand tour.
thanks for quoting me as Zam_Olyas The Magnificient

 

[The Hitch]

this man says hello think he cares about the Giro

and by the by does Cav care about the Giro ? if you say yes the so does Greenedge you don´t have to have a GT rider to care.

Yeah ok BMC do have Pinnoti.

Cav has been on record saying very nice things about the Giro.

I think Goss does probably care about the Giro but its their first season and what they really want is to ride the Tour. They wouldnt be too disapointed if they had to sacrifice the Giro and allow a domestic Italian team for whom the Giro would be their great highlight, to ride instead.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

This team will be wonderful at Giro 2012 OT

 

[just some guy]

completely the opposite is true as local teams are always more motivated

Not so.

Every GT 50% of the local wildcards do nothing.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

the giro is almost dominated by local teams ever since its existance. it's the only gt where you see wildcard teams racing the the win even in gc like selle italia, or index back with savoldelli

 

[Froome19]

I think that Androni must be assured of a place as they have one of the favorites alongwith a whole raft of top climbers (serpa, sella etc) .
Acqua Sapone must also be pretty confident with garzelli (kom winner) + Di luca (former winner) and i think carlos betancur will show something this year.
The last two places imo should go to colnago + farnese if you are talking just in terms of riders. colnago have modolo + Pozovovio who deseves another chance and did great in the italian continental circuit and battaglin who I believe can truly do something special. Farnese have pozzatto + last year stage winner (Gatto) and Guardini even though i don't think he will do that well.
No other teams would bring such strong riders to Giro. Coldeportes have Duarte and.... and champion system+TT1 have no one of real pedigree. 1t4i will not send a very strong team as most riders will be targeting the tour/vuelta etc

 

[will10]

the giro is almost dominated by local teams ever since its existance. it's the only gt where you see wildcard teams racing the the win even in gc like selle italia, or index back with savoldelli

+ Di Luca at LPR

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

thanks susan, maybe so rcs will keep in mind to not do something stupid .
if even christina watches beat those marketing teams of acquarone,that's nothing more to add.1t41 will be invited to le tour anyway so they shouldn't complain

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/project-1t4i-manager-confident-of-tour-de-france-invite

It's clear that the 1t4i folks only care about the Tour, anyway. Inviting them would be a huge mistake.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/project-1t4i-manager-confident-of-tour-de-france-invite

It's clear that the 1t4i folks only care about the Tour, anyway. Inviting them would be a huge mistake.

it would be humorous if they wouldn't get an invite to the tour either. I can't stand the team they have big mouths blabla but in the end never really any results nor do ther riders ever get better. only kittel has had somewhat of a breakthrough but he's only been in the team 1 year. all other talent they've had for years became bad or worse. wtf came from geniez, a huge talent. yet they pet themselves on the back saying how well they guide youngsters

 

[jens_attacks]

ryo,kittel is enough for the two first weeks of tour's boredom.they won't need anything more just to make the life hard for cav

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

who ever thought or came up with idea that kittel could beat cavendish, hilarious. he's not proven anything like that yet. if there is one rider making steps towards cavendish it would be greipel and hopefully haedo with a good train