I didn't say that Froome or Porte could do better though. I'd go for Uran. It's a very good route for him. Although it seems that he hasn't even raced yet this season?18-Valve. (pithy) said:
maltiv said:
He was down for Sardegna but obviously it got cancelled. It was too late to get a place at the Ruta so they added West-Vlaanderen to the schedule instead which is why Henao will be lining up there! Uran isn't down for W-V so I'd imagine he'll start his season at Paris-Nice. Porte looks to be Sky's best bet for the win based on his form in the Algarve.
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18-Valve. (pithy) said:
No, the stage ends on the climb.
Porte may be slightly better than Wiggins to Mende but Wiggins has the edge in both time trials.
Uran doesn't time trial well enough to be the best Sky rider on this route.
Sky pushing the pace wasnt a necessity, they wanted to make race harder in favor of Porte, they certainly dont want to do that before Mende if Wiggins is going for gc. Aside from that, Sky has enough riders who can that kind of work well.
greenedge said:
I don't think it makes fair comparison. Mur De Bretagne is clearly a puncheurs' climb, Mende finish is indeed explosive but 3km is not quite an uphill sprint. This stage doesn't suit Wiggo, it's too steep but nevertheless you won't lose much time there. In comparison to Porte i would say i don't see Wiggo losing in Mende more than he can win in two tts.
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New Wiggins will storm up Col d'Eze. It's not fecking Zoncolan or Angliru (where he was going to come last in the whole peloton, according to CN knowledge, instead of 5th).
How many of you have actually watched him race recently?
Telly and Interwebs count.
How many of you have actually watched him race recently?
Telly and Interwebs count.Euskaltel! said:
I would not overrate this uphill tt, we will very likely see all the same faces. It's 18km of time trialling vs Mende where you won't see big gaps
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Winterfold said:New Wiggins will storm up Col d'Eze. It's not fecking Zoncolan or Angliru (where he was going to come last in the whole peloton, according to CN knowledge, instead of 5th).
How many of you have actually watched him race recently?
An inform and motivated Wiggins can hold his own/limit his losses on any climb in the world IMO. Dont think he is either of those things at the moment.
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eh?
He's just beaten Tony Martin in an ITT - he's as 'inform' as anyone is going to be in February and March.
Maybe not JTL
He's just beaten Tony Martin in an ITT - he's as 'inform' as anyone is going to be in February and March.
Maybe not JTL
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I think Taaramae has a pretty good chance to reach the podium here. He already said before dat Paris - Nice is a big goal for him this season. He also said that the parcours suits him very well. With his time trail capabilities in combination with good climbing, I guess Taaramae could indeed be a candidate for the top-3. Last year he was already 4th, if I'm not mistaken...
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Winterfold said:eh?
He's just beaten Tony Martin in an ITT - he's as 'inform' as anyone is going to be in February and March.
Maybe not JTL
Having the same form as everyone else or better isnt the same as him on top form. Wiggins has to be in very good shape to climb well and im not conviinced he is at the moment. Guess we will see.
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Indeed, the was I see it is that Wiggins is a natural time triallist who will deliver a good TT perfomance whatever his form, as thats what he is. He then uses that TT power to climb yet can only do so well when at top fitness and at the best of his time triallingRicheypen said:
Thibaut Pinot said:
I read some Taaramae's interview recently. He said he's aiming for the podium, but what made me sad is that he also said it's the first time that his team told him he is an unquestionable leader, and it is only after he top-10ed the PN twice in a row
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Kvinto said:I read some Taaramae's interview recently. He said he's aiming for the podium, but what made me sad is that he also said it's the first time that his team told him he is an unquestionable leader, and it is only after he top-10ed the PN twice in a row
Yep, I've read that too. If I'm not mistaken, Taaramae meant that this year his team directors said it with emphasis. Before, he was also the leader of the team (in the Tour for example, almost all Cofidis riders were trying to "protect" him), but back then they couldn't put much pressure on him because he's still very young. Now, he's coming to an age where Cofidis may really have expactations. Although he's still young enough to compete in the white jersey competition of the Tour...
Thibaut Pinot said:
True, these were two goals he stated: the podium of PN and the White Jersey. I guess we've read the same interview
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Thibaut Pinot said:
taarame is a strong rider but he has to improve a lot in the future.sky will smoke him here big time both on mende and in the itts
does somebody know the team sky roster for paris-nice?i was thinking that it will be pretty cool to send richie porte with this amazing shape in tirreno-adriatico.and bradley with froomy in paris-nice.i think they can win both races,why focus just on one?
jens_attacks said:
Think Sky believe there is big advantage in having their Tour squad ride as many kms as possible together, so I expect nearly all of them to be at Paris-Nice.
They usually send virtually their whole MSR team to the Tirreno. I would guess there will be GC rider there, but probably Rogers, maybe Henao or Uran (am not sure of the schedules of the Colombian pair).
I'm not convinced about Froome's chances at Paris-Nice.
What do we know?
1. Chris was expected to lead Sky in PN, and if i'm not mistaken Wiggo should have worked for him;
2. Chris has made a recon of the PN route before heading to Algarve (and so did at least Richie Porte);
3. At Algarve Chris was given the role of an indian for the newly-made chief Richie Porte while Wiggo i would say had been a semi-chief who turned an indian only on Malhao. He had done a lot of domestique work but it concerns to pretty much whole the team except of Wiggo.
4. Chris left the race suddenly without any explanations from him or Sky;
5. After the win Porte says:
about Algarve: "Chris Froome and Bradley Wiggins were supporting me and that’s how this team operates.”
about Paris-Nice: “It won’t be too much of a different team to this one, and we’ll go there with Bradley and it would be great to repay him for all the help he’s given me at this race. We’ll see what happens at the race but common sense is that I’ll support him. He’s one of the best stage racers out there.”
I see only two explainations:
1. Chris has no form;
2. Chris hides his form.
Both options are possible but given that Wiggo was spared in comparison to the other Sky riders while Froome worked as much as Lovkvist or Nordhaug it would sound wierd if the team spared Bradley for the work that he should do in the next race for the one who had to work hard in current race (that Wiggo was spared in)
What do we know?
1. Chris was expected to lead Sky in PN, and if i'm not mistaken Wiggo should have worked for him;
2. Chris has made a recon of the PN route before heading to Algarve (and so did at least Richie Porte);
3. At Algarve Chris was given the role of an indian for the newly-made chief Richie Porte while Wiggo i would say had been a semi-chief who turned an indian only on Malhao. He had done a lot of domestique work but it concerns to pretty much whole the team except of Wiggo.
4. Chris left the race suddenly without any explanations from him or Sky;
5. After the win Porte says:
about Algarve: "Chris Froome and Bradley Wiggins were supporting me and that’s how this team operates.”
about Paris-Nice: “It won’t be too much of a different team to this one, and we’ll go there with Bradley and it would be great to repay him for all the help he’s given me at this race. We’ll see what happens at the race but common sense is that I’ll support him. He’s one of the best stage racers out there.”
I see only two explainations:
1. Chris has no form;
2. Chris hides his form.
Both options are possible but given that Wiggo was spared in comparison to the other Sky riders while Froome worked as much as Lovkvist or Nordhaug it would sound wierd if the team spared Bradley for the work that he should do in the next race for the one who had to work hard in current race (that Wiggo was spared in)
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I agree it's wierd, but then the whole Froome scenario is wierd.
I think, if on Vuelta form , he would be a better bet for this P-N course, but that is a big if.
The lack of PR/news from SKY around this is also unusual.
I think, if on Vuelta form , he would be a better bet for this P-N course, but that is a big if.
The lack of PR/news from SKY around this is also unusual.
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