2012 Tirreno-Adriatico Stage 7:San Benedetto del Tronto: 9,3 km ITT

[TeoSheva]

1 Vincenzo NIBALI Italy LIQ 29:38:08
2 Christopher HORNER United States RNT +14
3 Roman KREUZIGER Czech Republic AST +26
4 Rinaldo NOCENTINI Italy ALM +53
5 Johnny HOOGERLAND Netherlands VCD +1:00
6 Michele SCARPONI Italy LAM +1:06
7 Joaquin RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Spain KAT +1:16
8 Wouter POELS Netherlands VCD +1:25
9 Cameron MEYER Australia GEC +1:33
10 Domenico POZZOVIVO Italy COG +1:41

Scarponi did better than JRO

 

[El Pistolero]

Is Kreuziger really overrated? I haven't seen anybody say here that he can win a Grand Tour or something similar. He just got third in T-A... Hardly a bad result.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

TA definitely has the greatest trophy in cycling... short of the PR cobblestone maybe.

better than this??

 

[Parrulo]

Still amazing that Horner finished 2nd with 0 race daysi n 8 months

Kreuziger is disappointing when it really counts. They really had no answer to Nibali in this race.

ya that is really impressive, mad props for him.

still 4 secs faster then gesink tho just joking ofc

like i said i will only have a formal opinion on nibali's tt when he does a longer one.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Not that I had much faith on Kreuziger, but overrated as he is, surely he should at least have managed a top 30 or something like that. This is almost as if he came in the autobus in a mountain stage.

agreed but wether 30 of 50th he woulkd've never won and that's why I wonder what the hell is was thinking this whole week

 

[El Pistolero]

Nibali a favourite at Tour too?

Actually, I think he is. Still want to see him in a long time trial though.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Is Kreuziger really overrated? I haven't seen anybody say here that he can win a Grand Tour or something similar. He just got third in T-A... Hardly a bad result.

people think eh can potentially wing t's or podium them already. he won't do top 5. he's so overrated and phsyically at his peak now for some years

 

[El Pistolero]

agreed but wether 30 of 50th he woulkd've never won and that's why I wonder what the hell is was thinking this whole week

70 WT points

 

[Parrulo]

better than this??

yes, for all i care that's just a big salad bowl

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Nibali a favourite at Tour too?

don't overdo it. absolutely no chance. hsi itt isn't great. yes much better than horner and kreusziger but he finished 9th today. nothing special

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Is Kreuziger really overrated? I haven't seen anybody say here that he can win a Grand Tour or something similar. He just got third in T-A... Hardly a bad result.

His TT capabilities are vastly overrated. Kreuziger hardly ever does good time trials anymore and yet everytime they expect him.

When he was younger he did very good time trials but lately he's become sloppy

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

70 WT points

no rider cares

 

[Parrulo]

Actually, I think he is. Still want to see him in a long time trial though.

if guys that have never won a GT are tour favorites why wouldn't a GT winner and multiple GT podium guy no be?

yes the tour has a lot of itt km's but he can always gain time back in the mountains

 

[Beech Mtn]

Well Horner was 45th in the time trial. That has nothing to do with underrating Nibali but overrating himself.

Ofcourse, 8 months without competition might do that with him

This. I think Horner overachieved this week considering his injuries/blood thinners/time off the bike.

 

[El Pistolero]

Lol, they care about WT points as much as they care about money The really big cyclists might not really care, but Kreuziger definitely does

 

[royalpig180]

no rider cares

Oh really? I think when it comes down to contract negotiations, they start to care...

It really shouldn't matter as much as it does, but with the way the UCI's system works, it does.

 

[El Pistolero]

if guys that have never won a GT are tour favorites why wouldn't a GT winner and multiple GT podium guy no be?

yes the tour has a lot of itt km's but he can always gain time back in the mountains

I don't think Wiggins is the Tour favorite lol. But to be honest, Nibali's Vuelta win is about as good as a top 5 in the Tour... Of course I'd rather win the Vuelta than get fifth at the Tour, but I'm talking about the competition field.

If he rides crappy long time trials all year long he will not be a favorite for the win, it's that simple really.

 

[BillytheKid]

Well Horner was 45th in the time trial. That has nothing to do with underrating Nibali but overrating himself.

Ofcourse, 8 months without competition might do that with him

Horner's habit of standing to find power is hurting his TT right now.
He had Krueziger right. Nibali's really improve his ITT. Second to Leipheimer in Argentina was no fluke. Horner had every right to be confident going into today. That's what makes him tick. That had to sting.

Great ride by Nibbles. The Champion Terrino-Adractico 2012!

 

[Highlander]

Well Horner was 45th in the time trial. That has nothing to do with underrating Nibali but overrating himself.

Ofcourse, 8 months without competition might do that with him

To be honest, I would have thought that the 8 months without racing would have hurt Horner more during the actual stages than the TT portion. It is fairly easily to simulate a TT during a training ride -- not as much with racing your opponents to the top of a climb.

 

[hrotha]

agreed but wether 30 of 50th he woulkd've never won and that's why I wonder what the hell is was thinking this whole week

Hey, remember when Kreuziger used to say he was better than Nibali? I think he doesn't even have that confidence and ambition anymore. It's sad, really.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Hey, remember when Kreuziger used to say he was better than Nibali? I think he doesn't even have that confidence and ambition anymore. It's sad, really.

Kreuziger just keeps getting wore and worse on the tts... wonder why?

 

[Parrulo]

I don't think Wiggins is the Tour favorite lol. But to be honest, Nibali's Vuelta win is about as good as a top 5 in the Tour... Of course I'd rather win the Vuelta than get fifth at the Tour, but I'm talking about the competition field.

If he rides crappy long time trials all year long he will not be a favorite for the win, it's that simple really.

that's why i want to see him on long itt's

Hey, remember when Kreuziger used to say he was better than Nibali? I think he doesn't even have that confidence and ambition anymore. It's sad, really.

wasn't that the reason why he left liqui? because he thought he was better then nibali and wasn't being given the deserved support?

 

[El Pistolero]

Kreuziger just keeps getting wore and worse on the tts... wonder why?

Cause Vino keeps attacking him on his training rides

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Cause Vino keeps attacking him on his training rides

if he can't handle vino, then he can't handle... nvm, noone can handle vino...

 

[BillytheKid]

To be honest, I would have thought that the 8 months without racing would have hurt Horner more during the actual stages than the TT portion. It is fairly easily to simulate a TT during a training ride -- not as much with racing your opponents to the top of a climb.

Unless he's focusing to much on his climbing. Had Stage 4 been finished 3K at that grade with no flat. Horner would have won the stage.

His big mistake waiting to chase down Nibali on Stage 5. He was very strong then and only Krueziger could follow. He will replay that one a few times.