2012 Tour de France: Stage 10: Mácon → Bellegarde-sur-Valserine (195 km)

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They're going to have to try a lot harder TOGETHER to unsettle Sky.
Really, are you happy at this point in your career with 2nd or 3rd Cadel? What's the point?

I suppose there is the 'I was already on the limit' argument to why more high placed GC peeps didn't try something.

Onwards to a not steep enough MTF.
 
Sep 14, 2011
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maxmartin said:
common sense? most people here seem to have different opinions.;)

So you think it strange that someone riding a 10km time trial (Porte) was able to ride faster than someone doing a 40km time trial (Nibali). There are probably fifty riders in today's race who could have closed down that gap given the same circumstances.
 
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If I read Gesinks explanation of today. I really wonder why he continues. He says he was clamping on all day and his back hurt the most. "It doesn't go as normal".
Mollema is even worse off. He can barely walk anymore and on the bike he has a lot of problems as well.

I hope mr. Breukink and mr. Verhoeven wake up now and do the sensible thing, withdraw them from the Tour!
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
So you think it strange that someone riding a 10km time trial (Porte) was able to ride faster than someone doing a 40km time trial (Nibali). There are probably fifty riders in today's race who could have closed down that gap given the same circumstances.

Is it Porte only riding 10km? He seems to be in front quite a long time. And is Nibali riding 40km, it seems Sagan was riding for him for quite kms.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
If I read Gesinks explanation of today. I really wonder why he continues. He says he was clamping on all day and his back hurt the most. "It doesn't go as normal".
Mollema is even worse off. He can barely walk anymore and on the bike he has a lot of problems as well.

I hope mr. Breukink and mr. Verhoeven wake up now and do the sensible thing, withdraw them from the Tour!

They put all the eggs in one basket the eggs are broke,theres yolk dripping through the wicker.
It makes no sense in any way,they damaging broken riders, Vuelta will be another right off as they will not gain any meaningful races days/form like this.Better stop get sorted and ready for Vuelta(maybe)
 
the asian said:
Of course .Last year, he was in a crap Saxo Bank Team which used outdated training techniques and was very unprofessional.
This year he's shown us what a fantastic rider he is, by reaping the benefits of being part of a highly professional modern team which uses revolutionary tactics and innovations.
Next year, if he stays with SKY and is allowed to ride to himself he will dominate the one week stage races.

Loving the sarcasm.
 
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Decent stage, but the attacks which would break up the race and which I spent years writing about, never properly materialised. VDB2 seems to be this year's version of last year's Samu as he is one of the strongest climbers but he lost too much time early on to be too much of a threat so he can go on the attack without fear of being chased too much, Sky have to be careful of him as he is certainly climbing well but in their eyes they have bigger fish to fry.

Today is one mountains stage down for Sky and we now move on to the decisive stage, but time is running out for the challengers to prove themselves and lets hope that Cadel awakens from his stupor because he seems to be the only rider capable of properly challenging Sky with his all round abilities.

Also chapeau to Jens Voigt he certainly must be one of the strongest riders in this Tour and his recovery and stamina to produce such perfomances on a daily basis when he totally empties himself in previous days in unbelievable.

What is also amazing is the fact that last year going into Stage 12 the Tour was still very wide open and we had noclue who was going to win, conversly this year the Tour seems to be sealed and there is a limited amount of riders (if even riders in the plural) who can actually win and even less who have realistic chances of winning
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
If I read Gesinks explanation of today. I really wonder why he continues. He says he was clamping on all day and his back hurt the most. "It doesn't go as normal".
Mollema is even worse off. He can barely walk anymore and on the bike he has a lot of problems as well.

I hope mr. Breukink and mr. Verhoeven wake up now and do the sensible thing, withdraw them from the Tour!

We can all hope. What a waste.
Probably end up throwing out the possible beautiful Vuelta baby with the tepid Tour bath water.
 
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maxmartin said:
common sense? most people here seem to have different opinions.;)

Was there a poll? I must have missed it.

Personally, I don't find an ITTer such as Porte taking back 30 seconds from Nibali, on 10 kms of flat, so surprising.
Still whatever fans the flames for that other place.
 
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Disappointing stage for the GC battle. Other than the minor attacks by Nibali and VDB, there was nothing else.

I kept thinking that either Evans or one of the RSNT GC guys would do something "big and bold" given that RSNT and BMC had two riders each on the original 20+ breakaway group. Maybe Evans didn't have the legs to attack today. But Evans and the rest of the non-Sky GC contenders really don't have more than 2 to 3 stages left to attack.

IMO, if we don't see any bold moves from the other GC contenders on tomorrow's stage 11, it's game over -- unless Wiggins (and/or Froome) has a major meltdown, crash, or mechanical on the remaining stages.
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
Chappeau TV! Being at work, I will have to wait till later to see all the facial contortions. (I assume there were some)

Someone needs to put a paper bag over Voeckler's head.
 
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guncha said:
So - how was the stage at the end? Had it been a better racing than a stage with MTF?
IMHO, today we saw why the design of stage was awful as Nibali try to go on decent but it was impossible to stay in front more than 40km after the major climb. If Colombier was 15-20km from finish Nibali might have chance.
MJ group had 16 riders at finish - more or less as expected/predicted. Evans and Menchov were smart because they didn't spend energy unnecessarily. You cannot fight against strong domestiques in long descents.
It is too pity Mur de Peregue is 39km from finish because it is possible to reach Foix in 26km. Without this unnecessary loop around Foix Nibali or other contender might have a chance.
Frankly I think Nibalis attack was just as if not more exciting than the usual mtf sprint.
Imo what was awful was not the design but that nobody tried to do something on the Gd Colombier ascent. It's still my opinion that Gd Colombier has the potential to blow up the race. And as we saw the terrain after the Gd Colombier was suited to attacks.
 
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Magnus said:
Frankly I think Nibalis attack was just as if not more exciting than the usual mtf sprint.
Imo what was awful was not the design but that nobody tried to do something on the Gd Colombier ascent. It's still my opinion that Gd Colombier has the potential to blow up the race. And as we saw the terrain after the Gd Colombier was suited to attacks.

it is possible nobody dare to try, they know it will be pulled back by awesome sky train, why bother wasting energy?