2012 Tour de France - stage 3: Orchies - Boulogne-sur-Mer (197km)

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Climbing

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Dekker_Tifosi said:
And if my aunt had a penis she would be my uncle.

Point being: it's irrelevant 'if' this or 'if' that. The fall happened, the 3km rule is there. No gaps.
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Of course, of course, even if don't know your uncles, I trust you on that! :D
The 3 km rule isn't that clear anyway... it leaves a great deal of interpretation, and I feel that it doesn't really apply to a finish like today or 2 days ago.
It is indeed almost necessary in a flat stage, where you don't want GC riders in front.
Nothing dramatic... 10 seconds are not going to change the final result of the Tour. the GC guys where all there for the most part.
 
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on3m@n@rmy

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Who was the last guy to have as much success as Sagan at such a young age (22 YO?)? Incredible. And I love that chicken dance or whatever you call it.

And who was the guy who missed the final corner trying to stay out of the way? I thought maybe a Vacansoliel's Poels but am not sure.

Sorry for Rojas.
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
Who was the last guy to have as much success as Sagan at such a young age (22 YO?)? Incredible. And I love that chicken dance or whatever you call it.

And who was the guy who missed the final corner trying to stay out of the way? I thought maybe a Vacansoliel's Poels but am not sure.

Sorry for Rojas.
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If you mean the sharp turn near the bottom where Chavenal almost lost it that was Valverde
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
And if my aunt had a penis she would be my uncle.

Point being: it's irrelevant 'if' this or 'if' that. The fall happened, the 3km rule is there. No gaps.
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The rule isn't no gaps, the rule is the same time as the group you were in. They were in the group with the yellow jersey and therefore got the same time as that group.

Otherwise if a you are involved in a crash in a group and then a single rider makes a move and pulls 30 seconds on the rest of them everybody involved in the crash gets 30 seconds on the rest of the group because a single rider attacked
 
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Two of a kind :)
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saunaking said:
After watching this stage what the hell was Matt White thinking that Goss could contest this stage in the first place?
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Yep, bit of a joke. He must have meant Albasini. Sagan is unstoppable at the moment on these types of finishes. Reminds me of Gilbert last year except that Gilbert was doing it in classics as well.
 
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BillytheKid said:
We're only three stages in. I don't read to much into today, except that Sagan is one scary guy on a bike on that kind uphill finish.

Wiggins has not lost time yet. He most likely will in the mountains, but can he TT his way out of it?
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A week from now the GC will be unrecognisable. Most of the pretenders will be gone from the top of the GC or will have lost big time in the TT plus the first hard climbs. For me it will be interesting as to where Nibali and Menchov will be on GC at that point re their chances for the overall.
 
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... 10 seconds are not going to change the final result of the Tour.
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Tell that to Laurent Fignon. ;)

Two things after watching the replay.

I am really becoming a fan of the kid. LOVED the interview.......childlike, almost. I am Forrest Gump.....smiling and laughing. And then later, my friend said to win, so I win....again smiling and laughing...with no hint of arrogance just youthful exuberance

Man! I wish it were that easy to win a local crit, let alone a Tour stage with a finish like that!

And lastly,

Wiggins did steer into the crash. I don't care about the 3K rule and if it will affect anything here, but he DID steer into a crash he could have very easily avoided.
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
Not there. But I found the guy and it was Vaconsoleil's Poels... pic below, far left in the white helmet, big grin after a big turn, afterwhich he swerved left across the field and missed the upcoming turn:

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see all the big photos on Steephill.tv...http://www.steephill.tv/2012/tour-de-france/photos/stage-03/#290-PIC292215486.jpg
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It even says Boeckmans on the site "As Kris Boeckmans (Vacansoleil-DCM) runs out of gas and misses the final corner (he finished outside the top 20), Peter Sagan charges around the outside heading into the final corner"
 
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It even says Boeckmans on the site "As Kris Boeckmans (Vacansoleil-DCM) runs out of gas and misses the final corner (he finished outside the top 20), Peter Sagan charges around the outside heading into the final corner"
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This is great picture - all these strong gyus look totally finished and Peter only started his engine ...
 
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slowoldman said:
Wiggins did steer into the crash. I don't care about the 3K rule and if it will affect anything here, but he DID steer into a crash he could have very easily avoided.
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Really? I've seen a number of clips and it's not clear what happened. Two clips showed the big crash on the left. Another appeared to show another rider going down on the right, Wiggins appeared to go left to avoid him, while his team-mate went right to avoid the main crash. Would I want to call this one on the clips I've seen? No.
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
Who was the last guy to have as much success as Sagan at such a young age (22 YO?)? Incredible. And I love that chicken dance or whatever you call it.

And who was the guy who missed the final corner trying to stay out of the way? I thought maybe a Vacansoliel's Poels but am not sure.

Sorry for Rojas.
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Really? I've seen a number of clips and it's not clear what happened. Two clips showed the big crash on the left. Another appeared to show another rider going down on the right, Wiggins appeared to go left to avoid him, while his team-mate went right to avoid the main crash. Would I want to call this one on the clips I've seen? No.
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There's an overhead clip were it's clear what happened. Either he deliberately rode in to it or he has the slowest reaction ever. :eek:
 
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They just posted a replay of the crash and its aftermath on SBS TV in Australia. The SBS commentators described Wiggins and Rogers as having committed a "professional foul" for deliberately steering into the crash.

PS - Even my wife, who knows ****** all about cycling, couldn't believe how blatent is was that Wiggins steered into the crash :p

My question at this point is, since the stage to La Planche des Belles Filles on Saturday is also considered a medium mountain stage, does the 3km rule apply there too?? If it does, what is to stop Wiggins and Sky making a total farce of this race by, say 2.8km from the finish, someone crashing (say Rogers) and causing Wiggins to stop, just as he is being distanced by the race leaders. He could then roll in casually (again), this time minutes (not 1 minute) behind the stage winners, and I suppose he would once again get the same time as the stage winners.... :( :mad: :eek:
 
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Just watched the overhead replay about 4 times. Wiggins didn't steer into the crash - his back wheel slides out to the left - probably locked up, then he bumps into his team mate on the right, and has to unclip to keep control, at which point someone whacks him from the back. Anyone who has ever ridden a bike in a race knows that you don't think when someone crashes 5 metres in front of you at 30kmh, you react.
 
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The Joker said:
My question at this point is, since the stage to La Planche des Belles Filles on Saturday is also considered a medium mountain stage, does the 3km rule apply there too?? If it does, what is to stop Wiggins and Sky making a total farce of this race by, say 2.8km from the finish, someone crashing (say Rogers) and causing Wiggins to stop, just as he is being distanced by the race leaders. He could then roll in casually (again), this time minutes (not 1 minute) behind the stage winners, and I suppose he would once again get the same time as the stage winners.... :( :mad: :eek:
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Yeah. There is no 3km rule for that stage. That's not to say that still won't happen though.
 
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