2012 Vuelta a España: Stage 4:Barakaldo-Estación de Valdezcaray 160.6 Km

[hrotha]

Besides Sky's classy move, Movistar has no one to blame on themselves, it all started when they decided to give up on the break. An important stage with all those seconds on the line and now they paying for it for being lazy.

I don't think letting the break go has anything to do with what just happened.

 

[Mellow Velo]

This is not about sportsmanship. This is about double standards after Rolland.

For you it maybe, but for those who can distinguish between a racing incident and an exterior act of sabotage, it isn't.

Anyhow, Martin on the climb- a thing of beauty!

 

[Fidolix]

here we go...

 

[heartburn1]

I live on the Eastern seaboard in the US and I'm trying to time my bar lunch trip for the last hour. Are there any estimates when they'll hit the last climb?

Thanks!

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Assume the posts referencing Karma are from people remembering Paris Nice.

Turns out you do reap what you sow.

The correlation of people's opinion of this situation and the riders and teams involved is really quite impressive. I remember similar outrage when teams attacked in Oman when the leader took a ****...

Personally, I dislike attacking misfortune, but I do enjoy seeing people who have done it before getting screwed over by it.

 

[sultanofhyd]

I kind of like Pierrot, but he was out of line if he attacked knowingly after what happened, there the race was attacked by a bunch of madmen, no racing was possible under proper conditions for most everybody, was more a game of luck who hit a nail or not.... Here, someone started to race for echelons, crash happens, tough luck, keep racing. If they stop racing at each crash at Paris Roubaix, they might as well take a taxi to roubaix and make a sprint in the velodrome

They weren't aware of the tacks issue at the time, and Evans punctured a good few minutes before others got flat tyres, Sky waited primarily for Evans.

 

[The Cobra]

This is not about sportsmanship. This is about double standards after Rolland.

Its a little different though being poorly positioned and held up by a crash, thats a RACING incident. What happened with Rolland was sabotage by someone outside of the race and nothing to do with racing. Completely different.

 

[Forunculo]

Noval, Sorensen and Erviti back in the second group (Valverdes one)

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I live on the Eastern seaboard in the US and I'm trying to time my bar lunch trip for the last hour. Are there any estimates when they'll hit the last climb?

Thanks!

The break just did.

 

[gthx_gthx_]

Besides Sky's classy move, Movistar has no one to blame on themselves, it all started when they decided to give up on the break. An important stage with all those seconds on the line and now they paying for it for being lazy.

Why is that Movistar fault ? If they had chased down the breakaway all day long wouldn't they be even weaker now to chase the Sky group ?

 

[BillytheKid]

Valverde needs to go damage control and not try chase too hard until the climb and then just TT it to not loose time or make a catch if they play games.

 

[SafeBet]

Anybody knows if Intxausti is with Piti or in the lead group?

 

[hfer07]

Isn´t it possible there is some payback in the direction of Valv-Piti? Just a thought...

I don´t like him at all. But what about the riders? Maybe he is the big a§§hole

If things get out of control with Sky- I foresee Movistar, Katusha & Saxo teaming up against them...... Valpiti won't forget this sh!t for sure

 

[sultanofhyd]

Rolland or anyone else weren't aware of the sabotage when it all happened, for him it was just a puncture at the time.

 

[Miburo]

4 minutes, wow

If froome or contador goes early then maybe

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Tony Martin and Clarke.

 

[icefire]

Anybody knows if Intxausti is with Piti or in the lead group?

I saw him having a chat with Flecha a few minutes ago

 

[wirral]

BMC and Sky have an alliance?

 

[Arnout]

Rolland had the right to go too. Just race first, discuss afterwards. All that girly waiting for everything and nothing is killing cycling.

And yes, heroics are made this way. Remember Eugene Christophe.

 

[sultanofhyd]

If things get out of control with Sky- I foresee Movistar, Katusha & Saxo teaming up against them...... Valpiti won't forget this sh!t for sure

Katusha worked with Sky a few minutes ago, so I don't know about them.

 

[JimPanzen]

Tony ftw by the way

 

[Forunculo]

Intxausti is ahead with Froome

 

[Descender]

1993 finish was at Alto de la Cruz de la Demanda. Tha's a different road on the west side of the Ezcaray valley, and the climb is harder. The only road stage finish at Valdezcaray was in 1988. An they used to climb up to Collado de las Tres Cruces then, above 1900 metres.

Ha! So I was right and the wiki article where I found that 1993 info was wrong.

And the best thing is, we know whose fault it is: issoisso.

I hope he gets extradited to Sweden or the US or something and pays for his crime.

 

[sultanofhyd]

I saw him having a chat with Flecha a few minutes ago

That was Cobo.

 

[Alpehue]

I live on the Eastern seaboard in the US and I'm trying to time my bar lunch trip for the last hour. Are there any estimates when they'll hit the last climb?

Thanks!

Just about now mate!