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airstream said:No problem. I was just asking on the part I didn't get. Thank you.
The Hitch said:You knew Froome would take 11 seconds out of Contador? Man you should go put all the money you have on whatever outcome you forsee for tomorrow
The Hitch said:Morzine did prove Contadors weakness though, since it turned out he was bellow form that tour.
Besides no way does he sandbag to 17 seconds, having sprinted for 2s before.
Arnout said:Predictable, that's the word. You know exactly what is going to happen, and when. It's like watching a football match while knowing the final score, the only question is who are the goal scorers.
SiAp1984 said:Of course, nothing's been decided yet. However, we have to assume that AC is going to lose time on Froome in the ITT and Froome just has to follow the attacks of his opponents in the mountains + he has a super-strong team.
I still think it is possible for AC to win, but as it already showed in the Tours of 2010 and 2011, the days when he was clearly the strongest climber among the race favorites are over (unless he races a Giro with virtually no serious competition). I wonder if he will pull off something like Alpe d'Huez in last years Tour? Might be a good idea at a later point, though...
Waterloo Sunrise said:I do wonder exactly what he means by cramps; I can't imagine being able to continue at anywhere near race pace if my legs were actually cramping - you'd need to stop and stretch, even for a couple of seconds, and it would come back very quickly.
The Hitch said:I suppose we could compare this stage a bit to the Rocca de Cambio one in the Giro, also on stafe 7 i think, with slightly bigger gaps.
There Tiralongo (someone who isnt going to compete) took the stage, pipping in the end ahead of a big gc favorite who everyone was speculating might be off form but impressed greatly - Scarponi, kind of like Froome today.
Both those guys dropped and came just ahead of a wildcard - Frank Schleck, or Valverde, depending on the race.
But the eventual 2 heads of state, Hejsedal and Rodriguez were dropped even further, coming 5 seconds behind. So Contador can take heart from this i guess, showing that a winner can be slightly behind form a week in.
ok so Tiralongo is no Rodriguez, but im going by the assumption that with a tt, hill or not, and some mountains that might could actually be raced, Rodriguez is an unlikely candidate for the gc.
DominicDecoco said:That's like saying it's predictable to say that the riders will ride to the finish line, the only question is; who will arrive first.. You are pretty spot on with that...
burning said:I'm pretty sure that saturday's climb is a Purito finish. Or am I mistaken?
Arnout said:No. You know every football match will end after 90 minutes (forgetting about tournaments), with a likely score of 0-0, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, 2-1... etc. One doesn't actually know what will happen, how this score and what sort of score will be achieved.
In the Vuelta, we know how the race will end, we know exactly what will happen at what time, barring crashes, we know the outcome of the race. It's entirely predictable, except for the winner, which on a route like this can be one out of three or four guys. It's predictable and will become more so once we've had 5 of this finishes.
webvan said:Arcalis? Not really that's a long climb, not too steep, remember Ulle there in 1997? If Contador was his Verbier self he'd fly up too...now? Looks like a Sky one/two at the top to me.
webvan said:Arcalis? Not really that's a long climb, not too steep, remember Ulle there in 1997? If Contador was his Verbier self he'd fly up too...now? Looks like a Sky one/two at the top to me.
The Hitch said:Your making absolutely no sense.
Arnout said:The climb is not that long, but steeper than Arcalis and also with smaller roads if I'm not mistaken
Well, tell me, have we seen one single unexpected thing yet this Vuelta (in terms of racing)?
Miburo said:Sky riding when the leader falls.
Purito not pushing the pedals untill the finish.
You expected that sir?
Arnout said:Well, tell me, have we seen one single unexpected thing yet this Vuelta (in terms of racing)?
Arnout said:Well, tell me, have we seen one single unexpected thing yet this Vuelta (in terms of racing)?
burning said:I'm pretty sure that saturday's climb is a Purito finish. Or am I mistaken?
Arnout said:Edit: I think you're trolling, judging by your edit
The Hitch said:I was actually going to post a sarcastic comment about how, no we havent seen sprinters win mtfs and climbers win, tts, but the funny thing is, we kind of have
DominicDecoco said:What's considered 'expected'?
Moviestar winning the TTT?
Arnout said:I'm not talking about results. I'm talking about the way the race develops. Whether Degenkolb or Benatti wins isn't relevant for the way a race develops. An early attack by a contender would, or a surprise package, or whatever. We haven't seen it and won't see it with this route.