2012 Vuelta. The Return of the King.

[The Hitch]

I agree. Just imagine if I or someone else made such a thread? This is wrong.

If you made this thread we would like you even more

 

[Fidolix]

He´ll be mad as hell and my deepest sympathy to Basso and the others, may you all rest in peace! Amen!

 

[La Pandera]

Most spanish riders are already out in the media defending Contador, because they know that's the only chance they have of winning a stage in their home tour - Contador has to let them win. I think that if he gifts a couple of stages to those of whom are faithful to him then he will only get a couple of stages (like 5) himself, but that's still a good revenge.

Even without the ban, Contador would've done (and won) the Vuelta. But the biggest positive in all this is that we'll get the chance to see a top motivated and fit Contador giving it everything to win the Worlds. It'll be a spectacle, that's for sure.

I seriously doubt that the idea of being gifted a stage win by Contador is their motivation for defending Contador. You're kidding, right?

 

[La Pandera]

I agree. Just imagine if I or someone else made such a thread? This is wrong.

What makes it wrong?

 

[The Hitch]

I seriously doubt that the idea of being gifted a stage win by Contador is their motivation for defending Contador. You're kidding, right?

It is a joke and a pretty witty one at that

 

[Publicus]

NO it´s not annulled, and wouldn´t it be about time you had just a little foundation for all your predictions pisti, your comments in this thread is beginning to sound a little bit hysterical, get the facts straight first, it will save you a lot of grief, and maybe show a little bit more faith in the folks behind Saxo bank.

Are you have a semantics debate? AC is no longer under contract with Riis Cycling or Team Saxo Bank. When he returns, he will be free to contract with any other team that could find use for his services.

 

[La Pandera]

so basically things I did ages ago I am still accountable for ergo it makes it alright for someone else to make this thread?

Well the fact that you have an issue with the existence of this thread shows that not too much has changed with you since that time.

 

[La Pandera]

I hope he stays with Saxo, they fail to get WT status, and then don't get Tour 2013 invitation either.

I hope you're wrong on all counts.

 

[La Pandera]

Unfortunately Im not sure if Contador will go for the Worlds. Hes been a real **** when it comes to one day races.

Now he did say prior to the season that he was going to pursue the gold in the WC ITT as one of his goals for 2012.

 

[La Pandera]

Respect, Havetts. There is one man at least, who had no fear to say what he really thinks without covering by the slogans "tragedy of cycling", "cycling buried itself", "how to live without him??!" etc.

Apparently the 2011 Tour didn't help you realize that a less than top form Contador or even no Contador at all is no guarantee that Andy will win the Tour. So 2012 will likely be just another grand disappointment for the Schleck camp. Maybe Andy will decide to give the Vuelta a try after failing at the Tour.........only to receive another smack-down by Contador.

Oh the humanity!

 

[La Pandera]

Respect, Havetts. There is one man at least, who had no fear to say what he really thinks without covering by the slogans "tragedy of cycling", "cycling buried itself", "how to live without him??!" etc.

....and fear from what?? This is the internet.

 

[La Pandera]

I don't need anyone who cares about him. But it is really ridiculous how his fans (i don't mean you personally) try to belittle Schleck even more after announcing ban as though Schleck was guilty of Contador's catching. It looks like a stupid paranoid fan jealosy. If you are his fans, learn from him how to accept the things you cannot change with dignity.

Like:

-Andy and Chaingate/the 2010 Tour, which he just won't let go?
-Frank and the 2008 Tour and Sastre, which he just won't let go?

 

[La Pandera]

Contador will need to decide whether to continue riding professionally. 4 GT titles is a great career achievement, but he could probably win the Giro or Vuelta a few more times if he works hard and the top competitors focus on the Tour.

I could've sworn I had you on my ignore list. I'll have to correct that.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

you want some company ?

 

[Fidolix]

Are you have a semantics debate? AC is no longer under contract with Riis Cycling or Team Saxo Bank. When he returns, he will be free to contract with any other team that could find use for his services.

Yes your right. He obvious just had the option to resign him first, but I guess it´s a fart in the wind, with absolutely no value.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Are you?

Get your facts straight buddy. Hes still on contract, period!!!

Uhm, no he's not...

 

[Fidolix]

Uhm, no he's not...

yes he is.
Or maybe you know more than Riis do?

Could be.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

yes he is.
Or maybe you know more than Riis do?

Could be.

They just said on the press conference that Alberto is no longer on contract. Or did I miss something?

 

[Fidolix]

They just said on the press conference that Alberto is no longer on contract. Or did I miss something?

No I heard it to, I´m just refering to a later interview with Riis on national TV where he stated that AC was still on contract, but I guess he forgot to clear that with AC first, it seems AC might not be interested in renewing the contract afterall.

Heres the latetest news release.

Alberto Contador and Team Saxo Bank as a technicality terminated the contract because the Spaniard can no longer fulfill his contract because he has been quarantined.

Team Saxo Bank's press chief Anders Damgaard told sporten.tv2.dk that both parties intend to resume cooperation, but the Spaniard himself was not so clear in speech to Tuesday's news conference.

"When I return, my first priority to Saxo Bank, but we'll see. For now I'm free," said Alberto Contador at the press conference, according to the Spanish media AS.

Riis will continue for many years
Alberto Contador may again stand for the bike race on 6 August, and Bjarne Riis hope it happens for his team.

"Me and Alberto must sit down and talk about things. I want him to come back to the team. He is a professional and amazing person I would like to continue working with him for many years," said Bjarne Riis.

My bad, sorry!

 

[TeoSheva]

Eddy (the new BMC's guy ) said that Contador will win the vuelta with one day of advantage

 

[airstream]

Apparently the 2011 Tour didn't help you realize that a less than top form Contador or even no Contador at all is no guarantee that Andy will win the Tour. So 2012 will likely be just another grand disappointment for the Schleck camp. Maybe Andy will decide to give the Vuelta a try after failing at the Tour.........only to receive another smack-down by Contador.

Oh the humanity!

Mr. La Pandera, that post is not about Schleck and relation of forces in duo Schleck/Contador. Contador could have won the TdF without the Giro, I admitted it easily in October Yet. It's all about an excessive dramatization of this case. The rider was caught, no matter how titled he is. He was banned. He was banned DESERVEDLY.

Like:

-Andy and Chaingate/the 2010 Tour, which he just won't let go?
-Frank and the 2008 Tour and Sastre, which he just won't let go?

I don't justify them for that. Though it was absolutely natural human reaction after the Chaingate. Any rider would feel robbed in Schleck's place

 

[Angliru]

Mr. La Pandera, that post is not about Schleck and relation of forces in duo Schleck/Contador. Contador could have won the TdF without the Giro, I admitted it easily in October Yet. It's all about an excessive dramatization of this case. The rider was caught, no matter how titled he is. He was banned. He was banned DESERVEDLY.



I don't justify them for that. Though it was absolutely natural human reaction after the Chaingate. Any rider would feel robbed in Schleck's place

Let me ask you, should Frank have received a ban for his relationship with a particular notorious doctor? He also was cleared by his federation but there was no appeal made by the UCI, inspite of his having paid said doctor for his services. It could be argued that he was cleared undeservedly. Based on how the two are virtually linked at the hip, it could be speculated that whatever transaction was taking place was for both brothers. They are certainly not without a bit of soil.

How can he feel robbed when he lost additional time in the prologue and ITT's? His focusing on the the time lost as result of his dropping his chain is, to me, an excuse to not take responsibility for losing to the better rider. Had he ridden against the clock,

 

[airstream]

Let me ask you, should Frank have received a ban for his relationship with a particular notorious doctor? He also was cleared by his federation but there was no appeal made by the UCI, inspite of his having paid said doctor for his services. It could be argued that he was cleared undeservedly. Based on how the two are virtually linked at the hip, it could be speculated that whatever transaction was taking place was for both brothers. They are certainly not without a bit of soil.

How can he feel robbed when he lost additional time in the prologue and ITT's? His focusing on the the time lost as result of his dropping his chain is, to me, an excuse to not take responsibility for losing to the better rider. Had he ridden against the clock,

Perhaps. But there are competent organizations to rule out situations like that. And if he were banned, I'd consider it fair and deserved. The connection with Fuentes doesn't indicate using doping directly, otherwise 40% of the peloton could have been suspended in 2006. But one thing really amused me. None of the fans wrote "Yeah.. Possibly he did a mistake" Long ago I supported Basso, but gave up, having known all his disgraceful rotten lies. And if supposedly WADA catches Schleck, I'll never root for him any longer. But defense of the rider in using drugs... I don't understand it.

I didn't hear him complain about prologue and ITT.

 

[The Hitch]

Eddy (the new BMC's guy ) said that Contador will win the vuelta with one day of advantage

Link?

10 char.

 

[The Hitch]

I don't justify them for that. Though it was absolutely natural human reaction after the Chaingate. Any rider would feel robbed in Schleck's place

Doubt it. most would understand that they had behaved even worse on stage 3 for a bigger gain and not act like such hypocrites. compare for example to froome who has more reason to despair than schleck but acts like a gentleman.