2012 Vuelta. The Return of the King.

[LaFlorecita]

really?
Even if it is not like that on paper i still think of the 06 and 07 tours as Vinos

Alberto may not care about his palmares and records but I do.

 

[ferryman]

Yes, he is the best but that doesn't matter if he doesn't get a palmares like Merckx or so.

Just trying to cheer you up

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Alberto may not care about his palmares and records but I do.

Fine.

He got the tour of 09,10 ( I am sorry but the 07 tour is Vinos for the taking! )
He got the giro of 08,11
He got the Vuelta of 08 and soon 12

this is what I consider his palamares. (fine he might even have the 07 tour...)

 

[LaFlorecita]

Fine.

He got the tour of 09,10 ( I am sorry but the 07 tour is Vinos for the taking! )
He got the giro of 08,11
He got the Vuelta of 08 and soon 12

this is what I consider his palamares. (fine he might even have the 07 tour...)

But he needs to win at least 15 GTs.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Just trying to cheer you up

I know and I really appreciate it.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

But he needs to win at least 15 GTs.

It doesn't really matter how many gts he win, but how he is winning them don't you think?

 

[LaFlorecita]

It doesn't really matter how many gts he win, but how he is winning them don't you think?

Okay winning 5 GTs by 15 minutes is also fine.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Okay winning 5 GTs by 15 minutes is also fine.

there you go!

 

[Angliru]

I have a question that has been bothering me for a while:

Until what age will Alberto perform?

Because I think that he can continue to win in 2012 and 2013 but after that I just can't see it happening.

That's partially why I'm so sad; because I know he will never achieve what he could have achieved and because he won't earn a place in history. In a few years from now only his fans will remember him.

Armstrong will always remember him.

 

[Angliru]

Yes, he is the best but that doesn't matter if he doesn't get a palmares like Merckx or so.

That's just dooming him to failure right there. No one will get a palmares like Merckx. Contador's place in cycling history is set by nature of:

- his winning all 3 grand tours,
-denying the return of the Tour king-on his own team with the odds stacked against him,
-his panache/attacking style in the mountains

Only to be enhanced by what achieves upon his return. Who is there to really challenge him? Evans is getting older. Andy apparently isn't getting any smarter or better on his TT bike. There doesn't appear to be any young up and coming rider that stands out although that is quite hard to forecast. It could be a Frenchman like Pierre Rolland or Thibault Pinot. Or it could be one of the young Italians on the Liquigas squad. Or even Vicenzo Nibali, who seems to be on a steady progression so he could reach his peak as Contador is in his decline. I like Nibali's tenacious nature and he is quite strong mentally just like Contador.

 

[Angliru]

But he needs to win at least 15 GTs.

I hope you're kidding.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I hope you're kidding.

Kind of. Not entirely.

 

[LaFlorecita]

That's just dooming him to failure right there. No one will get a palmares like Merckx. Contador's place in cycling history is set by nature of:

- his winning all 3 grand tours,
-denying the return of the Tour king-on his own team with the odds stacked against him,
-his panache/attacking style in the mountains

His palmares is nothing compared to that of the greats. He could however achieve such a palmares if it wasn't for his ban and the stripping of his results.

Those things you listed don't give him a place in history.

 

[Fetisoff]

His palmares is nothing compared to that of the greats. He could however achieve such a palmares if it wasn't for his ban and the stripping of his results.

Those things you listed don't give him a place in history.

Pantani's palmares aren't that great compared to some of the others, not even "greats", yet he will be remembered forever

 

[pastronef]

UCI does not allow Jesus Hernandez and Sergio Paulinho to ride the ride Marcha Contador tomorrow

http://mobile.twitter.com/jesushernandez3/status/206115443889549313

 

[LaFlorecita]

UCI does not allow Jesus Hernandez and Sergio Paulinho to ride the ride Marcha Contador tomorrow

http://mobile.twitter.com/jesushernandez3/status/206115443889549313

What the **** is this ****?!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Pantani's palmares aren't that great compared to some of the others, not even "greats", yet he will be remembered forever

You can't compare Alberto to Pantani.

 

[Fetisoff]

You can't compare Alberto to Pantani.

Both great climbers, both loved by fans, attacking in nature. Why can't they be compared as cyclists?

 

[LaFlorecita]

That's just dooming him to failure right there. No one will get a palmares like Merckx. Contador's place in cycling history is set by nature of:

Maybe I should note that I meant Merckx's palmares GT wise because of course I can't expect Alberto to start winning Classics all of a sudden.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Both great climbers, both loved by fans, attacking in nature. Why can't they be compared as cyclists?

Maybe because Pantani is a legend and Alberto isn't and will never be one?

 

[pastronef]

UCI does not allow Jesus Hernandez and Sergio Paulinho to ride the ride Marcha Contador tomorrow

What the **** is this ****?!

I thought you knew more than us about this

 

[El Pistolero]

UCI does not allow Jesus Hernandez and Sergio Paulinho to ride the ride Marcha Contador tomorrow

http://mobile.twitter.com/jesushernandez3/status/206115443889549313

Lol, I would ride anyway. I'd like to see what rules UCI have in place to do something like that.

 

[hrotha]

It's not a big deal if it's Jesús Hernández and Paulinho. Now, if it was Noval they'd be banning him from his main goal of the season.

 

[jamiephillips]

The racing is much more exciting without Contador. Even the die-hards must agree?

 

[ferryman]

The racing is much more exciting without Contador. Even the die-hards must agree?

Really? You looking forward to the slug fest with Wigans and Evans this year I take it