2012 World Championships, Men Individual Time Trial: 45.7Km

[The Sheep]

Who does everyone expect to be best of the young guns? It should be a close battle between Phinney, Durbridge, Castroviejo, Van Garderen and Sergent.

My money is on Phinney or Durbridge.

Don't forget Kelderman

 

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i much prefer kessiakoff whos been preparing for this now for last month.

how do you come to this conclusion? He didn't touch a bike for 5 days after the Vuelta due to knee injury and therefor had to cancel his participation in the TTT on sunday.

 

[theyoungest]

Don't forget Kelderman

Has no form.

Has also done just one good time trial this year.

 

[The Hitch]

I am not so sure about Tonys shape.
I think Contador, Kessiakhoff and van Gaderen are all able to pull a suprise if Tony is not at 100%

If Martin can beat top shape Froome in the olympics with a broken hand, i think he can manage a similar rider - Contador when injury free

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

If Martin can beat top shape Froome in the olympics with a broken hand, i think he can manage a similar rider - Contador when injury free

the courses are nothing a like

 

[manafana]

how do you come to this conclusion? He didn't touch a bike for 5 days after the Vuelta due to knee injury and therefor had to cancel his participation in the TTT on sunday.

5days no harm, rode the vuelta purely to get in shape for this, contador rode it to win the vuelta.

 

[The Hitch]

the courses are nothing a like

He beat Froome by 26 seconds. Contador might get all that back on hills, but thats before we consider the fact that Martin will be in significantly better shape here.

 

[cineteq]

Contador is not a world class TTer? What planet are you from?

Has he won a medal in any World's ITT or Olympics? If he's a world class TTer in your mind, I have no problem with that.

I am not so sure about Tonys shape.
I think Contador, Kessiakhoff and van Gaderen are all able to pull a suprise if Tony is not at 100%

I based my 5-star rating purely on Tony's outstanding TTT. He should have a minute to spare.

 

[El Pistolero]

25 seconds, you can get that back on the Cauberg alone if you're punchy and the other rider isn't.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Has he won a medal in any World's ITT or Olympics? If he's a world class TTer in your mind, I have no problem with that.

I based my 5-star rating purely on Tony's outstanding TTT. He should have a minute to spare.

he has never started a wc itt before... and one olympics in which he was 4th...

 

[sultanofhyd]

He beat Froome by 26 seconds. Contador might get all that back on hills, but thats before we consider the fact that Martin will be in significantly better shape here.

Contador doesn't necessarily lose time on the flats, or gain time on the climbs like we'd probably expect when he does well. In Annecy he was faster than Cancellara on the flat, as fast on the climb and lost a bit on the descent. And in this Vuelta Kessiakoff rode the climb faster than him.

He almost always has a very fast initial phase, and his final result depends on whether (or how much) he fades through the rest of the course, regardless of terrain.

I think whether Contador beats Martin or not here depends mostly on their respective shapes, the climbs are too short and shallow to make any difference, Martin doesn't even need to get out of the saddle till they hit the Cauberg.

 

[cineteq]

25 seconds, you can get that back on the Cauberg alone if you're punchy and the other rider isn't.

I'm reading there are/will be headwinds after coming up the Cauberg to the finish.

 

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5days no harm, rode the vuelta purely to get in shape for this, contador rode it to win the vuelta.

I agree, I'm not sure about Contador as well, but I doubt Kessiakoff will be the one to challange Tony Martin. Today's timetrial is not comparable to the one in the Vuelta or in the Tour de Suisse at all and he has never proofed himself in a timetrial like this - in contrary, he has never even beaten Gustav Larsson. Odds on him are way too low, I don't see no value at all

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm reading there are/will be headwinds after coming up the Cauberg to the finish.

rain as well. don't know if the course is dry now though. here are thunderstorms

 

[cineteq]

rain as well. don't know if the course is dry now though. here are thunderstorms

it's going to be interesting...are you on the course already?

 

[El Pistolero]

I remember Nibali once lost almost a minute on the Cauberg sprint alone. So being a climber doesn't automatically make you good at this work.

 

[Bavarianrider]

25 seconds, you can get that back on the Cauberg alone if you're punchy and the other rider isn't.

There is no way in hell that you can make up 25 seconds on Cauberg within a TT.
For gods sake Cauberg is only 1.2km with 5% average gradient.
That's only like 2 minutes of cycling. Gaining 25 seconds would require a huge difference in power levels.
In order to gain 25 seconds soebody like Contador would need to save hiself a little bit before the climb and go all out o that climb, But that would also mean that he would lose some seconds again on the way to the finish line.
25 seconds is totally impossible to be gained, unless Tony would collapse totally.
IF Contador wants to win this one, he has to be at Tonys pace all race long. If he enters Cauberg with a 10 second deficit, he might turn around it. Certainly not with a 25 second deficit, though.

 

[sultanofhyd]

How long is the descent after Cauberg? The finish is flat, so it can't be too long...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

it's going to be interesting...are you on the course already?

no I'm not. I looked on buienradar and it showed rain coming down any minute I think.

 

[Miburo]

he has never started a wc itt before... and one olympics in which he was 4th...

And he could have taken a medal if he didn't blow up himself in the first round.

Those little climbs suit Contador way better and Martin hasn't show he had the form of last year.

Who says he'll get that today? Because of a great TTT? yeah right...

 

[El Pistolero]

There is no way in hell that you can make up 25 seconds on Cauberg within a TT.
For gods sake Cauberg is only 1.2km with 5% average gradient.
That's only like 2 minutes of cycling. Gaining 25 seconds would require a huge difference in power levels.
In order to gain 25 seconds soebody like Contador would need to save hiself a little bit before the climb and go all out o that climb, But that would also mean that he would lose some seconds again on the way to the finish line.
25 seconds is totally impossible to be gained, unless Tony would collapse totally.
IF Contador wants to win this one, he has to be at Tonys pace all race long. If he enters Cauberg with a 10 second deficit, he might turn around it. Certainly not with a 25 second deficit, though.

Sprinting on the Cauberg after 260km is harder than a time trial of not even 50km.

I never said Tony is a rider without some punch though. He won on Crans Montana.

 

[Miburo]

Sprinting on the Cauberg after 260km is harder than a time trial of not even 50km.

I think Nibali also let it go then, cause one minute is really a lot

 

[Miburo]

At the start it's raining.

That will favor Contador

I hope it'll keep raining then, everybody needs to ride in that.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I think Nibali also let it go then, cause one minute is really a lot

vino also lost a minute in the agr he won. and he went as hard as he could surly

 

[cineteq]

There you go
http://static.sportresult.com/federations/uci/CR-node/