2013 Critérium du Dauphiné Stage 4: Villars-les-Dombes Parc des Oiseaux 32.5 km ITT

[osminium]

I'm gonna go with Pinotti, Chavanel or Bauer.

 

[Cimber]

Porte will make the others look like junior riders.

If only Quintana was here to set Porte straight.... again

 

[burning]

If only Quintana was here to set Porte straight.... again

No techinical descents means Porte>>Quintana (He was descending like Basso and he was probably ordered to not take any risks)

 

[Cimber]

No techinical descents means Porte>>Quintana (He was descending like Basso and he was probably ordered to not take any risks)

Luckily we got all that in the 2nd one in the Tour But really would be weird if he was actually ordered not to go full gas when it was for the overall win (don't believe it one second).

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Based your estimated speed, Veilleux would end up about 26 seconds ahead of Froome in GC - Froome 37.5 minutes vs 39 for Veilleux in the ITT. Veilleux's result in the Canadian TT championships isn't very impressive. Might the other results have been skewed by him taking the ITT as a "rest day" given that he was not a GC contender or a threat to win the ITT? He will certainly be giving it everything he has tomorrow.

Difficult to read how much he put into all of these. He can probably perform even better in this TT, but how much? As far as I can tell, he has never broken the 50 km/h (avg) barrier in a long-ish TT.

Anyway, it will be interesting. Hopefully he can hang onto the jersey.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

No techinical descents means Porte>>Quintana (He was descending like Basso and he was probably ordered to not take any risks)

Descending like basso is old, now its descending like wiggins.

 

[Cimber]

Descending like basso is old, now its descending like wiggins.

Now that's an insult to Port's descending. Only Andy descents as bad a Wiggo

 

[burning]

Luckily we got all that in the 2nd one in the Tour But really would be weird if he was actually ordered not to go full gas when it was for the overall win (don't believe it one second).

The theory was he was ordered to ride cautiously on the descends to prevent any crashes in a prep race for them. He was going faster than Quintana on flat(iirc) but lost huge time on descends.

Zam, no one can descend worse than Wiggo (Even Andy and Basso are not close imo)

 

[Cimber]

The theory was he was ordered to ride cautiously on the descends to prevent any crashes in a prep race for them. He was going faster than Quintana on flat(iirc) but lost huge time on descends.

Zam, no one can descend worse than Wiggo (Even Andy and Basso are not close imo)

For Porte it surely wasn't a prep race. When u are a GT domestique you sure *** hell ride your *** off when u are in form and get the chance to make a result in a WT race. That said he might be a bad descender or just scared. But no way he was holding back on purpose.

 

[taiwan]

Is Westra healthy?

 

[King Of The Wolds]

If Tony's OK it will be 1. Tony, 2. Dawg, if not it will be The Dawg. I'm pretty confident of that. No change in yellow.

 

[Froome19]

so what about our friend Veilleux. How much time will he drop to Froome?

A few TT markers:

TdR '13 (18,6km):

1 MARTIN Tony Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 6 50 21:07 52.849
2 MALORI Adriano Lampre - Merida 4 30 0:16 52.190
3 FROOME Christopher Sky Procycling 2 18 0:34 51.468
...
78 VEILLEUX David Team Europcar 2:17 47.692

Belgium Tour '13 (15km)

1 MARTIN Tony Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 20 30 17:42 50.847
2 DUMOULIN Tom Team Argos - Shimano 14 18 0:40 49.002
3 OVECHKIN Artem Rusvelo 8 12 0:43 48.869
....
62 VEILLEUX David Team Europcar 1:45



Canadian TT Champs '11 (43km):

1. TUFT Svein CSM 56'29" 30
2. MEIER Christian UHC 57" 18
3. VEILLEUX David EUC 01'13" 14
4. BELL Zachary CSM 01'26" 10
5. HOULE Hugo CSM 01'32" 7

Post Danmark Rundt '12 (14,5km):

1 WESTRA Lieuwe Vacansoleil - DCM 20 30 16:36 52.410
2 THOMAS Geraint Sky Procycling 14 18 0:19 51.429
3 BOARO Manuele Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank 8 12 0:22 51.277
4 NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas Garmin - Sharp 7 7 0:25 51.126
5 FOLSACH Casper Team Concordia Forsinkring - Himmerland 6 4 0:28 50.977
...
...
...
33 VEILLEUX David Team Europcar 1:02 49.338

I think Froome will do about 52km/h. Veilleux max 50km/h.

Anybody good at math?

Those times don't really indicate anything much, with the opportunity of keeping the yellow jersey on his shoulders he will be riding like he has never done before. I guess the Canadian Nats TT is probably the best indication as that is the only one he would have given everything for.

 

[jens_attacks]

i'd go with g thomas just because he looks great on the bike and those glasses fit him well

sky can top 3 here no doubt
curious to see alejandro and alberto, very curious...
also veilleux if he will keep it, i'd say yes i hope so

 

[Carlo Algatrensig]

i'd go with g thomas just because he looks great on the bike and those glasses fit him well

sky can top 3 here no doubt
curious to see alejandro and alberto, very curious...
also veilleux if he will keep it, i'd say yes i hope so

I can see Thomas riding well and a Sky 1 - 2 - 3 in the stage is not an outlandish possibility.

 

[UselessToo]

Jan Barta top3

 

[Froome19]

i'd go with g thomas just because he looks great on the bike and those glasses fit him well

sky can top 3 here no doubt
curious to see alejandro and alberto, very curious...
also veilleux if he will keep it, i'd say yes i hope so

Came 2nd in BR TT recently, don't think he will manage a Top 3 here though.

 

[Pulpstar]

Betfair market up http://www.betfair.com/exchange/cycling/event?id=27018911

I'm trying to lay Martin at 1.6

 

[taiwan]

Came 2nd in BR TT recently, don't think he will manage a Top 3 here though.

4th actually, after some conti dude from Tony Martin's
old team.

 

[Miburo]

Valverde can have a good ITT but also a really sucky one.

In the dauphine he's usually superb though.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Those times don't really indicate anything much, with the opportunity of keeping the yellow jersey on his shoulders he will be riding like he has never done before. I guess the Canadian Nats TT is probably the best indication as that is the only one he would have given everything for.

I think there are enough data to say he will likely stay in yellow after the TT, but it will be tight.

 

[roundabout]

Early finish.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62696

2 minutes between riders in the top 20, so no chance of Porte catching Contador sadly.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Early finish.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62696

2 minutes between riders in the top 20, so no chance of Porte catching Contador sadly.

Wasn't it Wiggo in last year's CdD who almost caught Evans in the long TT?

 

[roundabout]

You are correct.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Wasn't it Wiggo in last year's CdD who almost caught Evans in the long TT?

1' 43"

So yes close, but not quite caught.

 

[hfer07]

Apart from the usual suspects- & whether or not Froome & Porte will get minutes over Contador, What is going to be the hot topic about this ITT is "how ridiculously good Valverde performed" -mark my words