2013 Critérium du Dauphiné Stage 5: Grésy-sur-Aix Valmorel (139 km)

[willbick]

Looking like another SKY 1-2 on GC.............

 

[del1962]

Funny to see that EBH, Lopez and Kennaugh finished together at 9 minutes. While Geraint Thomas, who was dropped LONG before Kennaugh, finished at 4 minutes. He was clearly trying to defend his GC position, instead of saving energy like the others. But he still dropped down to 25th overall...

I don't think the Sky Train is as strong as a year ago,

missing Wiggo and Rogers?

 

[Eshnar]

if a top climber like Froome winning a MTF comfortably against top opposition doesnt impress u maybe u should find another sport to watch. if u wanna see miracle performances go look up some EPO era racing on youtube

if you wanna talk about epo go to the clinic. I'm talking about racing.

 

[airstream]

I'm disappointed by Froome too. Where's Cabargo furious solo. Let's expect Ax-3.

 

[The Hitch]

Reminder: He's never won a 3-week race.

You made this post about 50 times about Wiggins last year. How did that work out?

 

[willbick]

if you wanna talk about epo go to the clinic. I'm talking about racing.

lol wtf are u talking about??! racing in the 1990s-2000s was on epo. didnt u know?!

 

[Cimber]

TST with 3 riders in top 15 (and 3 of their main Tour climbers aint here), Sky had 2. Maybe they will be able to challenge Sky regarding team strength in the Tour

 

[forkboy84]

Because he barely beat a clearly out of form Contador and took about 10 seconds on the likes of Moreno? Yes he's the strongest now, but this isn't exactly a world beating performance. If Contador is 100% at the tour this is far from a done deal.

Thank goodness! There's some common sense, someone not caught up in this "black & white", everything is either awesome or terrible with no middle ground that seems to run wild on here some of the time.

Froome rode well today. But on a short stage the Sky train had some small problems. They aren't invincible. They are looking very strong, but Contador hasn't been in terrific form this season, & has time to build up for the Tour yet. Not to mention that the late spring throughout Europe means a nightmarish time for allergy sufferers, which won't be a factor come June.

In essence don't panic yet. Nothing is guaranteed. And that aside, Froome finished 4 seconds ahead of a Contador who looked completely done yesterday. Lets all just take a step back & calm down before declaring everything will obviously be horribly onesided & dull. Didn't the same get claimed before Tirreno-Adriatico, that the Skyborg was unstoppable?

 

[Eshnar]

lol wtf are u talking about??! racing in the 1990s-2000s was on epo. didnt u know?!

Making this comment just a few weeks after a few epo positives in the Giro 2013 doesn't seem very appropriate.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Lol, to Contador you wanted to say?

So sorry for you you didnt graduate highschool. Even in Minsk Matt Busche doesnt spell Contador.

 

[ILovecycling]

lol wtf are u talking about??! racing in the 1990s-2000s was on epo. didnt u know?!

Go to the clinic

 

[Cimber]

Because he barely beat a clearly out of form Contador and took about 10 seconds on the likes of Moreno? Yes he's the strongest now, but this isn't exactly a world beating performance. If Contador is 100% at the tour this is far from a done deal.

Pretty much this. The big question is whether or not Contador will be able to reach 100%.

 

[TANK91]

Because he barely beat a clearly out of form Contador and took about 10 seconds on the likes of Moreno? Yes he's the strongest now, but this isn't exactly a world beating performance. If Contador is 100% at the tour this is far from a done deal.

lol Froome took 4 Seconds on a flat section lol he owned Contador, you see who was in the group today lol, Froome did not have to attack did he? he has a huge buffer, for a little counter and then attack that was very impressive, you say he only took 10 seconds on Moreno but i repeat Froome did not go all out, you cant expect Froome to take half a min in 1km lmao, im sure even if Contador did not attack Froome would not even attack or try win the stage, he had no reason to. So your silly if you think Froome was not impressive. Froome will have 3mins from the TT disciplines if you add them alltogether imo, so good luck Alberto at taking 3 mins back(if anyone can he can but not vs Froome imo)again i will be called a hater now i bet. Contador defo just had a bad ITT yday no allergies imo. I honestly think 2nd place and a stage win on say the Alpe combo would be awesome, La Flo, Milburo dont you agree? I mean i know Contador would only class a win as acceptable, but if he looses to Froome and gets 2nd what is the shame in that. I mean who can honestly say Schleck who came 2nd a few times did not have great TDF's?, he did and that is a fact. And surely a 2nd place and target la Vuelta for the win he could do it. Froome is just so good imo, Cineteq winds me up when he keeps saying bla bla he is yet two win a 3 week race, the dude was saying all through the TDF that Sky would fail nd look what happend. Froome as a great record to get two 2nd places in GT's when your pulling your leader up the climbs is like a win imo. Froome, Contador and Schleck(i have faith he is always good in the Tour) will be the top 3, barring crashes. I really hope Froome des not get took out bye crash, imagine Contador winning or vice versa cuz they crashed out befor the real carnage started.

 

[spalco]

In essence don't panic yet. Nothing is guaranteed. And that aside, Froome finished 4 seconds ahead of a Contador who looked completely done yesterday. Lets all just take a step back & calm down before declaring everything will obviously be horribly onesided & dull. Didn't the same get claimed before Tirreno-Adriatico, that the Skyborg was unstoppable?

Nothing is guaranteed, certainly. But the T-A stage was obviously a freakish event, that's unlikely to be repeated in any big race in the near future, and additionally at least in hindisight it's also obvious that Nibali was on excellent form there already.

 

[airstream]

Pretty much this. The big question is whether or not Contador will be able to reach 100%.

The question is whether Contador 100% is comparable to Froome 100%

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

lol Froome took 4 Seconds on a flat section lol he owned Contador, you see who was in the group today lol, Froome did not have to attack did he? he has a huge buffer, for a little counter and then attack that was very impressive, you say he only took 10 seconds on Moreno but i repeat Froome did not go all out, you cant expect Froome to take half a min in 1km lmao, im sure even if Contador did not attack Froome would not even attack or try win the stage, he had no reason to. So your silly if you think Froome was not impressive. Froome will have 3mins from the TT disciplines if you add them alltogether imo, so good luck Alberto at taking 3 mins back(if anyone can he can but not vs Froome imo)again i will be called a hater now i bet. Contador defo just had a bad ITT yday no allergies imo. I honestly think 2nd place and a stage win on say the Alpe combo would be awesome, La Flo, Milburo dont you agree? I mean i know Contador would only class a win as acceptable, but if he looses to Froome and gets 2nd what is the shame in that. I mean who can honestly say Schleck who came 2nd a few times did not have great TDF's?, he did and that is a fact. And surely a 2nd place and target la Vuelta for the win he could do it. Froome is just so good imo, Cineteq winds me up when he keeps saying bla bla he is yet two win a 3 week race, the dude was saying all through the TDF that Sky would fail nd look what happend. Froome as a great record to get two 2nd places in GT's when your pulling your leader up the climbs is like a win imo. Froome, Contador and Schleck(i have faith he is always good in the Tour) will be the top 3, barring crashes. I really hope Froome des not get took out bye crash, imagine Contador winning or vice versa cuz they crashed out befor the real carnage started.

I like you, very much. Quoted out of respect.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Slightly better stage than expected thanks to Movistar, Dennis and Busche.

Convincing win by Froome in the end.

 

[forkboy84]

I expected something like CI. That would have been impressive.

Doesn't that just say your expectations are a bit out of whack with reality? I mean for starters his competition level at the Dauphine is just a little bit tougher than at CI, & the Dauphine is a slightly more important race in the scheme of things.

The idea that Froome should be absolutely destroying a field including Valverde, Rodriguez & Contador among others just seems a bit unrealistic to me. Expecting him to beat them I can see, he's looked very strong in 2013, but total domination on a stage like today against that calibre of field would be unexpected based on past results.

Literally only tuned in, in time to see them come across the line. Why does this race have to be on so early? Will have to watch the full stage later. Good to see Contador still has some decent climbing legs though, and see him not going down without a fight. Froome still looking like the #1 favorite for the Tour.

Looked like a good ride by Busche too, was he from the early break and managed to hang with Contador and Froome? And looked like Dennis put in a good attempt to defend.

Yes, the early start was a real drag. I had errands to run this morning & only got back after they'd crossed the line. So that was a bit of an annoyance.

 

[Eshnar]

Nothing is guaranteed, certainly. But the T-A stage was obviously a freakish event, that's unlikely to be repeated in any big race in the near future, and additionally at least in hindisight it's also obvious that Nibali was on excellent form there already.

not so obvious looking at the previous stage...
Anyway in the Tour there aren't such stages and Nibali isn't even there.

 

[TANK91]

You made this post about 50 times about Wiggins last year. How did that work out?

Hitch i use to check here last year and he always said it all through june and July, Nibali will win bla bla, it may have been pistolero tho aswell both massive Nibali fan and anti Sky, his fav Rider got beat bye a domestique who lost over a min on a flat stage HA HA HA.

 

[spalco]

not so obvious looking at the previous stage...
Anyway in the Tour there aren't such stages and Nibali isn't even there.

Yeah, I meant in hindsight, with him winning the Giro in impressive fashion and everything.

That loss in T-A is hardly a blemish on Froome's record imo.

 

[Eshnar]

Doesn't that just say your expectations are a bit out of whack with reality? I mean for starters his competition level at the Dauphine is just a little bit tougher than at CI, & the Dauphine is a slightly more important race in the scheme of things.

The idea that Froome should be absolutely destroying a field including Valverde, Rodriguez & Contador among others just seems a bit unrealistic to me.

If the Spanish guys were looking in shape yesterday I'd agree with you. But yesterday they were horrible so I thought they would be today too.

 

[Cimber]

The question is whether Contador 100% is comparable to Froome 100%

It isnt. Its better. But I doubt Contador will be able to reach his former 100% level.

 

[Miburo]

not so obvious looking at the previous stage...
Anyway in the Tour there aren't such stages and Nibali isn't even there.

Nibali could have been useful, it's pretty much everyone against Froome.

Today was slightly better but what DT is kinda true, Froome took 4 sec on 200 meter. That's pretty impressive...

movistar and saxo need to work together in the tour.

 

[Cimber]

lol Froome took 4 Seconds on a flat section lol he owned Contador, you see who was in the group today lol, Froome did not have to attack did he? he has a huge buffer, for a little counter and then attack that was very impressive, you say he only took 10 seconds on Moreno but i repeat Froome did not go all out, you cant expect Froome to take half a min in 1km lmao, im sure even if Contador did not attack Froome would not even attack or try win the stage, he had no reason to. So your silly if you think Froome was not impressive. Froome will have 3mins from the TT disciplines if you add them alltogether imo, so good luck Alberto at taking 3 mins back(if anyone can he can but not vs Froome imo)again i will be called a hater now i bet. Contador defo just had a bad ITT yday no allergies imo. I honestly think 2nd place and a stage win on say the Alpe combo would be awesome, La Flo, Milburo dont you agree? I mean i know Contador would only class a win as acceptable, but if he looses to Froome and gets 2nd what is the shame in that. I mean who can honestly say Schleck who came 2nd a few times did not have great TDF's?, he did and that is a fact. And surely a 2nd place and target la Vuelta for the win he could do it. Froome is just so good imo, Cineteq winds me up when he keeps saying bla bla he is yet two win a 3 week race, the dude was saying all through the TDF that Sky would fail nd look what happend. Froome as a great record to get two 2nd places in GT's when your pulling your leader up the climbs is like a win imo. Froome, Contador and Schleck(i have faith he is always good in the Tour) will be the top 3, barring crashes. I really hope Froome des not get took out bye crash, imagine Contador winning or vice versa cuz they crashed out befor the real carnage started.

Just a kind advice. You really need to structure your posts better.