2013 Giro d'Italia Stage 12: Longarone → Treviso (134km)

[Pulpstar]

Its the combination of sickness and 0 confidence in the wet descents.

If he was just 0 confidence but full health he could have pulled it back on the flat,
If he was sick but with full confidence he could hang tough in the peloton.

The combo has killed him today.

 

[webvan]

Yeah he was apparently only at 1'23" with 16k to go.

 

[Jaunty Monty]

Wiggins lost 30 seconds on a mountain stage which didn't play to his strengths only two days ago, he can't be that ill. He is clearly completely shot to pieces mentally.

Cataldo was first over the line in the TTT. The next day he was sick and lost over 19 mins.

 

[the asian]

Time to go home now for wiggins
btw where's majka?

10th at 4.21

 

[Carols]

Hm, wasn't Viviani pushed out of the saddle a little bit? He seemed furious, didn't even try to sprint for points despite the fact that he needed them badly.

Yeah just a bit!!!! That Nacer is dangerous

 

[search]

Wow BeIN have some nice after stage coverage, not like Eurosport, dude's have money!

it's the international coverage, beIN has nothing to do with it, they just pay for being allowed to use it. That's also why the commentators don't stop talking when there's an ad break, it's the same for Sportsnet, AlJazeera and so on.

 

[movingtarget]

Yeah he was apparently only at 1'23" with 16k to go.

When BMC and Omega forced the pace the string snapped. Lots of riders got dropped. The breakaways only got caught with about 400 metres to go. The end of the stage was very fast.

 

[ILovecycling]

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/2013/classifiche/it/t_12_class.shtml?lang=it
Henao in front as well.

Good to know,I hope he can recover from illness and in 3 rd week try to win a stage
But now,Im looking forward to Betancur in mountains,hope he can win a stage + Top10

 

[Polyarmour]

I agree, you don't see Viviani racing the Tour of Britain denying Cav a win in his home race, why should Cav deny Viviani the chance of glory in front of a home crowd? It's a complete joke.

If you follow that convoluted logic through you wouldn't have Cav racing anywhere except Britain.

 

[the asian]

it's the international coverage, beIN has nothing to do with it, they just pay for being allowed to use it. That's also why the commentators don't stop talking when there's an ad break, it's the same for Sportsnet, AlJazeera and so on.

Al Jazeera are covering the Giro?

 

[movingtarget]

Good to know,I hope he can recover from illness and in 3 rd week try to win a stage
But now,Im looking forward to Betancur in mountains,hope he can win a stage + Top10

If this weather continues and it's supposed to, it will be survival of the fittest. Would not want to get sick in the third week with the stages coming up.

 

[webvan]

it's the international coverage, beIN has nothing to do with it, they just pay for being allowed to use it. That's also why the commentators don't stop talking when there's an ad break, it's the same for Sportsnet, AlJazeera and so on.

Dude...I know this is CN where anything goes but how about WATCHING BeIN before making that useless and boorish comment? They have a special 45' Giro talk show called "GIRO-PHARE" with 5+2 people !

They have a scoop: Nacer Bouhami going home :-(

 

[aarononymous]

Good to know,I hope he can recover from illness and in 3 rd week try to win a stage
But now,Im looking forward to Betancur in mountains,hope he can win a stage + Top10

Really asking a lot but I'd be happy with the same thing, plus Uran podium. 2013, the year of the emerging Colombian cyclists.

 

[Jaunty Monty]

If Sky have illness in the camp then it maybe wise for Wiggins to go home to reduce the chance of Uran becoming infected.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Evans looks like a rugby player next to Nibali.

yes. lol evans is 174 and 68 kg. amazing for that bmi to go up that well. but so were lemond and others

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

It might have worsened.

he lost 1:30 in the rain stage days before that and couldn't follow the colombians in the flat either, but somehow it lessened and now worsened again? lol you silly fans

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Pretty brutal stage.
Another rainy day on stage 13 could see a few more minor GC contenders dropping further down.

Nice win by Cav. The fastest by far.

 

[red_flanders]

He is clearly sick I would go home why stay here, be a champ bla bla bla he cant follow wheels on the flat today

I don't know about that. Being sick, while never helping my descending skills, was not where I'd get exposed. Being sick means lack of power, concentration and stamina. Shows up in the hills and flats. Braggins lost it on the descent.

Not sure what's up with his descending all of a sudden, it's ridiculous. Can only assume he's bagging this race so as to be tops for the Tour. I don't know. That doesn't even make sense...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Something has to be wrong with him, though. He has been pro for so long, and was successful on all areas, including the track. Before May 2013, there was never a slight hint he could have a serious lack of bike handling skills on descents and within the peloton.

I guess it´s a combination of illness, currently lacking trust in his handling skills, and slight resignation that his shape might not be as special as it was in Tour 2012. In 2012, from Algarve to London, he was a class of his own, and nothing in the world could stop him from winning the hardest bike races in the world. At the moment, everything seems wrong with him. But if there is someone who has the experience, the class and the self confidence to fight out of this situation, it´s him.

uh yes. if you followed cycling longer than today you'd know that wiggins always had problems in wet descents and in general steering and positioning. look at the tour where he crashed out in the rain as well. basiclaly wiggins can't handle rain, heat and cold. 2012 he was very lucky we can conclude

 

[hrotha]

Wiggins might be truly sick, but if that's the case that's on top of all his other problems. He didn't start being bad the last few days.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Do you think he might be training too hard? because his immune system looked really weak. Everyone gets sick of course. He is skinnier so he got cold easily and the faulty changed weather doesn't help his case. He should be resting in bed for sure.

I don´t believe he´s training too hard, because he knows himself quite well, and knows how to prepare. It´s actually quite similar for all of them. I´d say, from day 10 on, within a GT, it really starts to get hard, because the body calls for rest, and you know it´s still long.

The GC contenders all start the GTs with already low body fat percentages, 8 percent at the maximum, some even 6%. During the three weeks, you lose another 1, 2 or 3 percent points, and finish with 3-5 percent.

And, importantly, they all have good regeneration skills as well as a great immune system. But in case this system becomes influenced by a crash or even a slight virus, you won´t get it out before the end of the three weeks.

Only advantage they have during a GT: it´s a peak competition, something they have as a target. So they already enter it with low body fat, and so are allowed to refill their carbohydrate threshold every day - they even have to.

That´s different to the preparation periods in the spring: there, it´s even colder, and if a rider has to lose weight in February, March or April, he spends larger amounts of time (weeks) with never really full glycogen levels (only exception: important prep races). That´s bad for the immune system. But if you get ill in this period, you can rest a few days. In a GT, you can´t.

 

[Polyarmour]

I didn't see the coverage but the ticker seemed to indicate that Wiggo was dropped while Cav was on the front pulling up a Cat 4 climb. Is this true?

 

[RHRH19861986]

uh yes. if you followed cycling longer than today you'd know that wiggins always had problems in wet descents and in general steering and positioning. look at the tour where he crashed out in the rain as well. basiclaly wiggins can't handle rain, heat and cold. 2012 he was very lucky we can conclude

You mean 2011, where he crashed out? OK...

But come on, can´t handle rain, heat and cold...

 

[Jelantik]

I don´t believe he´s training too hard, because he knows himself quite well, and knows how to prepare. It´s actually quite similar for all of them. I´d say, from day 10 on, within a GT, it really starts to get hard, because the body calls for rest, and you know it´s still long.

The GC contenders all start the GTs with already low body fat percentages, 8 percent at the maximum, some even 6%. During the three weeks, you lose another 1, 2 or 3 percent points, and finish with 3-5 percent.

And, importantly, they all have good regeneration skills as well as a great immune system. But in case this system becomes influenced by a crash or even a slight virus, you won´t get it out before the end of the three weeks.

Only advantage they have during a GT: it´s a peak competition, something they have as a target. So they already enter it with low body fat, and so are allowed to refill their carbohydrate threshold every day - they even have to.

That´s different to the preparation periods in the spring: there, it´s even colder, and if a rider has to lose weight in February, March or April, he spends larger amounts of time (weeks) with never really full glycogen levels (only exception: important prep races). That´s bad for the immune system. But if you get ill in this period, you can rest a few days. In a GT, you can´t.

I guess wiggins definitely should consider to leave the race then. He might not be able to get over it. He looked even worst than before, clearly he was struggling. Not sure if he just got mental block from the rain (probably not), but getting sick and riding in the rain and cold, must be brutal for his skinny body.

 

[TANK91]

ow thank very you to point it out. I guess, you don't like when people is asking question ey? you must have an astronomical cycling knowledge that makes me dwarf to your highness intelectual present. Please enlighten me.... the mighty cycling expert.

Well he does have a point what a stupid question you asked.