2013 Milan-San Remo, 17 March (298km)

[Lanark]

Cav said before the race in 2009 he couldn't make it over the climbs. Boonen didn't name his as one of the favorites and that's all he ever did.

Cav however said and I quote "The best thing today was not winning MSR, but passing Boonen on the Poggio like a rock".

Didn't know Boonen was such a petty clown that he's still upset about that 4 years later.

 

[El Pistolero]

Why would Boonen say something dumb like that?

Anyway, my point is obvious, don't insult the people you expect to work for you.

Wasn't talking about Boonen either, but half the team that decided to abandon.

Cav pulls stuff like this all the time.

 

[El Pistolero]

That must've hurt then. Maybe it's still an issue between the two, or maybe they've resolved it. But it wasn't an issue today ofc, Boonen's just not taking any risks.

Wasn't talking about just Boonen either, but half the team that decided to abandon.

Didn't know Boonen was such a petty clown that he's still upset about that 4 years later.

There's also that riders protest in 2010 during the Tour de Suisse against Cav's behaviour. Main victims: Boonen and Haussler.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Wasn't talking about just Boonen either, but half the team that decided to abandon.



There's also that riders protest in 2010 during the Tour de Suisse against Cav's behaviour. Main victims: Boonen and Haussler.

Are you the Belgium Ryo?

You just can not stop heh? Put a sock in it, please. Put on your Tom Boonen nighties and give it a rest.

 

[El Pistolero]

Are you the Belgium Ryo?

You just can not stop heh? Put a sock in it, please. Put on your Tom Boonen nighties and give it a rest.

What's wrong with my post? Against any rules?

Or should we all abide to what you say?

I surely am not the only one that noticed that not many QS boys want to spend their whole career working for Cav all day... Low morale comes from poor leadership. This isn't even about Boonen, half the team abandonned.

 

[Kwibus]

Like I said, he was going to wear that jersey anyway, so it is not that big of a deal to let Martin finish first

Before the ttt started the team agreed that Cav had to pass the finish line first. After the race it was Cav himself who said that perhaps, in hindsight, it would've been better if Martin would finish first since he did such tremendous job during the TTT.

No need to bash Cav for something he agrees on.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Just watched it on Youtube, one could cry - so happy for Ciolek, especially in these conditions.

The best indicator of how brutal that was was Puccio there with 3,5 km from the finish, crashing in the descent of the Poggio. Due to the cold and wet, he´s hardly able to walk and get back on his bike, moving like a drunk. That gives a hint of how hard it was.

What a race. San Remo again proved to be so hard to predict.

 

[Kwibus]

That must've hurt then. Maybe it's still an issue between the two, or maybe they've resolved it. But it wasn't an issue today ofc, Boonen's just not taking any risks.

Ofcourse it's not an issue anymore. It is for El pisti though. He still cries at night thinking about how mean Cav was towards his hero. It's really sad :/

 

[Kwibus]

There's also that riders protest in 2010 during the Tour de Suisse against Cav's behaviour. Main victims: Boonen and Haussler.

Lol poor lad. Are you allright Pisti? Cav the boogyman haunting your dreams?

 

[El Pistolero]

Ofcourse it's not an issue anymore. It is for El pisti though. He still cries at night thinking about how mean Cav was towards his hero. It's really sad :/

Eh, I don't mind it at all. I'm just not surprised at all Boonen is not willing to be a domestique for Cavendish.

Just like I'm not surprised so many QS riders abandonned today. Criticize your team all you want, he had every reason to do so at T-A, but talk to them and not to the media. They have worked for him a lot already this season(Terpstra in Qatar for example) and the moment they screw up he goes right to the media.

I see you can only discuss this with personal insults, how sad. Grow up lol, but maybe you picked your name for a reason.

 

[Kwibus]

Eh, I don't mind it at all. I'm just not surprised at all Boonen is not willing to be a domestique for Cavendish.

Just like I'm not surprised so many QS riders abandonned today. Criticize your team all you want, he had every reason to do so at T-A, but talk to them and not to the media. They have worked for him a lot already this season(Terpstra in Qatar for example) and the moment they screw up he goes right to the media.

I see you can only discuss this with personal insults, how sad. Grow up lol, but maybe you picked your name for a reason.

I usually don't and actually hate getting personal, but you bring out the worst in me i guess. Maybe ive read the forum too much today. Cyclingnewstrollforum.

Yet i still keep coming here.

 

[phanatic]

I don't hate him at all i just like to see over-confident riders eat humble pie once in a while.

Sagan ate it last year at this race, and then at G-W, and then at Flanders, and then at AGR, and this year had to take second to his teammate at Strade. And yet again, today.

 

[Dedelou]

Sagan ate it last year at this race, and then at G-W, and then at Flanders, and then at AGR, and this year had to take second to his teammate at Strade. And yet again, today.

Eating humble pie gets easier when at this early age you already have more wins than 98 % of your competitors. That boy goes home today ready to do better next time, not deflated at all.

 

[kingjr]

Sagan didnt even do much wrong, in fact the only mistake he made was that he reacted a bit too strongly on Chavanels sprint, he probably half-expected Chavanel to pass him while he, Sagan, was still accelerating so he could get into his slipstream and then win the sprint with ease, but Chavanel didnt get the Chance to get by so Sagan had to lead out from a bit too far.

And he underestimated Ciolek otherwise he would have paid more attention to his timing and to who was on his backwheel.

So actually thats 2 mistakes, but until the last km he did everything just right.

 

[williamp78]

The race was so good it almost feels wrong that the thread is no longer sticky

 

[Netserk]

Sagan didnt even do much wrong, in fact the only mistake he made was that he reacted a bit too strongly on Chavanels sprint, he probably half-expected Chavanel to pass him while he, Sagan, was still accelerating so he could get into his slipstream and then win the sprint with ease, but Chavanel didnt get the Chance to get by so Sagan had to lead out from a bit too far.

And he underestimated Ciolek otherwise he would have paid more attention to his timing and to who was on his backwheel.

So actually thats 2 mistakes, but until the last km he did everything just right.

+1

Totally. Agree.

 

[Jancouver]

I still cant believe Sagan did panic when Chava went early and started his sprint from so so far out. Clearly Ciolek should send a thank you card nad case of bubbles to Chava because he was the only reason Sagan lost the race. Well, Sagan is still young and immature and sometimes over estimate his awesomeness. He just need more experience to win this and many other races.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Surprised so many people here on board are so unhappy with the outcome.

I admit I might not be objective enough, being German, but: people always demand spectacular, unique racing. Today, everything was unique: the weather, the race break, the Ciolek-MTN story (which somehow reminds me of the "Cool runnings" bobsleigh cinema story of a Jamaican bob team being allowed to go to the Olympics (MTN were even better than the cinema, they won, and it´s real life). This could be the plot of a movie!

People here seem more enthusiastic when Freire wins his third SanRemo from a bunch sprint in 15 degree Celsius...

Sagan will win his first monument sooner or later, that´s out of question. Cancellara already won his San Remo, he won so much, who really cares if he wins today? Doesn´t make huge difference.

Chavanel is a great, hard rider, didn´t get his reward today, won already Waregem, Brabantse Piil, in Driedaagse, maybe he´ll get his Omloop or Flanders win someday, he has a few years left.

Why not be happy that we had the opportunity to enjoy a few hours of a race that people will speak about in 20 years, like we, nowadays, still speak about Hampsten on Gavia?

Who will remember the day in March 2010 when Oscarito (nothing against him) did win his third Primavera, or about Zabels third, or Gilberts second paris-Tours, Rebellins 2009 second Fleche Wallonne, Greipels ninths Tour Down Under stage win, Cav´s eleventh Tour stage victory, and so on?...

It´s the days like Sunday, 17/03/2013 in San Remo, that make cycling so great - as great as no soccer match will ever be able to be.



Edit: Isn´t that we saw what makes a monument a monument? IMHO, it was the best one day race in years, surpassing Gilbert in Lombardia 2010. Flanders 2012 was so hyped, new course, hardest race in the world, and so on; the result was Boonen-Pozzato-Ballan, something that wasn´t really that new and exciting...

 

[hughmoore]

Surprised so many people here on board are so unhappy with the outcome.

I admit I might not be objective enough, being German, but: people always demand spectacular, unique racing. Today, everything was unique: the weather, the race break, the Ciolek-MTN story (which somehow reminds me of the "Cool runnings" bobsleigh cinema story of a Jamaican bob team being allowed to go to the Olympics (MTN were even better than the cinema, they won, and it´s real life). This could be the plot of a movie!

People here seem more enthusiastic when Freire wins his third SanRemo from a bunch sprint in 15 degree Celsius...

Sagan will win his first monument sooner or later, that´s out of question. Cancellara already won his San Remo, he won so much, who really cares if he wins today? Doesn´t make huge difference.

Chavanel is a great, hard rider, didn´t get his reward today, won already Waregem, Brabantse Piil, in Driedaagse, maybe he´ll get his Omloop or Flanders win someday, he has a few years left.

Why not be happy that we had the opportunity to enjoy a few hours of a race that people will speak about in 20 years, like we, nowadays, still speak about Hampsten on Gavia?

Who will remember the day in March 2010 when Oscarito (nothing against him) did win his third Primavera, or about Zabels third, or Gilberts second paris-Tours, Rebellins 2009 second Fleche Wallonne, Greipels ninths Tour Down Under stage win, Cav´s eleventh Tour stage victory, and so on?...

It´s the days like Sunday, 17/03/2013 in San Remo, that make cycling so great - as great as no soccer match will ever be able to be.

+1

Well written, totally agree!

 

[Netserk]

In 2009 Rebellin won his third Fleche Wallonne

But I did enjoy the racing today

 

[RHRH19861986]

In 2009 Rebellin won his third Fleche Wallonne

But I did enjoy the racing today

Thanks hughmoore and netserk

And my apologize to the great old man of Italian cycling, for overseeing his 2007 Fleche Wallonne victory...

 

[Ferminal]

How much work did EBH do before getting dropped?

 

[Afrank]

Surprised so many people here on board are so unhappy with the outcome.

I admit I might not be objective enough, being German, but: people always demand spectacular, unique racing. Today, everything was unique: the weather, the race break, the Ciolek-MTN story (which somehow reminds me of the "Cool runnings" bobsleigh cinema story of a Jamaican bob team being allowed to go to the Olympics (MTN were even better than the cinema, they won, and it´s real life). This could be the plot of a movie!

People here seem more enthusiastic when Freire wins his third SanRemo from a bunch sprint in 15 degree Celsius...

Sagan will win his first monument sooner or later, that´s out of question. Cancellara already won his San Remo, he won so much, who really cares if he wins today? Doesn´t make huge difference.

Chavanel is a great, hard rider, didn´t get his reward today, won already Waregem, Brabantse Piil, in Driedaagse, maybe he´ll get his Omloop or Flanders win someday, he has a few years left.

Why not be happy that we had the opportunity to enjoy a few hours of a race that people will speak about in 20 years, like we, nowadays, still speak about Hampsten on Gavia?

Who will remember the day in March 2010 when Oscarito (nothing against him) did win his third Primavera, or about Zabels third, or Gilberts second paris-Tours, Rebellins 2009 second Fleche Wallonne, Greipels ninths Tour Down Under stage win, Cav´s eleventh Tour stage victory, and so on?...

It´s the days like Sunday, 17/03/2013 in San Remo, that make cycling so great - as great as no soccer match will ever be able to be.



Edit: Isn´t that we saw what makes a monument a monument? IMHO, it was the best one day race in years, surpassing Gilbert in Lombardia 2010. Flanders 2012 was so hyped, new course, hardest race in the world, and so on; the result was Boonen-Pozzato-Ballan, something that wasn´t really that new and exciting...

Agree, especially with the bolded. Personally I would have preferred to see Sagan take the win. But it was still a great day of racing, and Ciolek played the race perfectly and fully deserved that win. Ciolek being a rider for the first African cycling team makes his win even better too IMO.

And I think this could make Sagan even hungrier and more determined to get a win in RVV as well.

 

[Samson777]

How much work did EBH do before getting dropped?

Did not see him do any really, maybe I just missed it. But the commentators on the channel I watched, said that he was suppose to be the SKY leader. If that is correct, it would also make sense that he did not work.

 

[observer]

Surprised so many people here on board are so unhappy with the outcome.

I admit I might not be objective enough, being German, but: people always demand spectacular, unique racing. Today, everything was unique: the weather, the race break, the Ciolek-MTN story (which somehow reminds me of the "Cool runnings" bobsleigh cinema story of a Jamaican bob team being allowed to go to the Olympics (MTN were even better than the cinema, they won, and it´s real life). This could be the plot of a movie!

People here seem more enthusiastic when Freire wins his third SanRemo from a bunch sprint in 15 degree Celsius...

Sagan will win his first monument sooner or later, that´s out of question. Cancellara already won his San Remo, he won so much, who really cares if he wins today? Doesn´t make huge difference.

Chavanel is a great, hard rider, didn´t get his reward today, won already Waregem, Brabantse Piil, in Driedaagse, maybe he´ll get his Omloop or Flanders win someday, he has a few years left.

Why not be happy that we had the opportunity to enjoy a few hours of a race that people will speak about in 20 years, like we, nowadays, still speak about Hampsten on Gavia?

Who will remember the day in March 2010 when Oscarito (nothing against him) did win his third Primavera, or about Zabels third, or Gilberts second paris-Tours, Rebellins 2009 second Fleche Wallonne, Greipels ninths Tour Down Under stage win, Cav´s eleventh Tour stage victory, and so on?...

It´s the days like Sunday, 17/03/2013 in San Remo, that make cycling so great - as great as no soccer match will ever be able to be.



Edit: Isn´t that we saw what makes a monument a monument? IMHO, it was the best one day race in years, surpassing Gilbert in Lombardia 2010. Flanders 2012 was so hyped, new course, hardest race in the world, and so on; the result was Boonen-Pozzato-Ballan, something that wasn´t really that new and exciting...

Not true, I often watch replays of Italy knocking out Germany in the 2006 world cup semi. One of the best games I think of all time. Apart from that I agree with you wholeheartedly. A great exciting unexpected result.