PCutter said:Its Wilunga Hill, not Angrilu.
if it was Angrilu I'd be taklking about whether he'd be inside the time limit.
you know he lost 6+ mins on the same stage last year?
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PCutter said:Its Wilunga Hill, not Angrilu.
mc_mountain said:if it was Angrilu I'd be taklking about whether he'd be inside the time limit.
you know he lost 6+ mins on the same stage last year?
auscyclefan94 said:Did you watch the stage? He was caught behind a massive split up the road that went away over the top of the Wilunga Hill for the 1st time.
CQmanager said:I dont get it. How can TDU be a WT race if the average stage length is about 100km and most of the stages are flat. Same will apply to other races and especially to those somewhere in China.
CQmanager said:I dont get it. How can TDU be a WT race if the average stage length is about 100km and most of the stages are flat. Same will apply to other races and especially to those somewhere in China.
CQmanager said:I dont get it. How can TDU be a WT race if the average stage length is about 100km and most of the stages are flat. Same will apply to other races and especially to those somewhere in China.
Ferminal said:I don't think Argos would appreciate that.
You said he lost 6 minutes on the stage last year on Wilunga Hill. I said that was because he was caught behind a split and that was why he was so far behind. That does not change my stance that he will do well this year. Very straight forward.mc_mountain said:I'm not sure what your point is, he wasnt up with the head of the race the first time they went over Wilunga in 2012. how does that dispute my position that it is unlikely he will be a major factor on the same stage in 2013.
perhpas you can help me out, do you think
a)meyer will be tough to be beat on stage 5 of tdu 2013
b)meyer wont be much of a factor on stage 5 tdu 2013
c)not sure i'll hedge my bets by hyping him and then saying hype for meyer is unjustified.
and in case I have misunderstood your position
d)i have a consistent view on how cam meyer will perform on the stage in question and it is this...
3/6 stages are hilly this year. That's pretty good and completely normal for a WT stage race. I could understand the complaint 2 years ago, but this year the parcours are great.CQmanager said:I dont get it. How can TDU be a WT race if the average stage length is about 100km and most of the stages are flat. Same will apply to other races and especially to those somewhere in China.
Christian said:Hey wow I completely missed that he signed for Argos! Good for him! When was this announced?
Leadbelly said:Has an obscure rider been picked for this year's race yet? and if they haven't, who do you reckon they should pick?
I can't for the life of me remember who they picked last year, but it was Madrazo in 2011 and Vichot the year before that.
Pentacycle said:In 2012 it was Wouter Mol. It's a good tradition if they keep it going, but I can't find anything about who they've chosen this year.
Libertine Seguros said:I think part of it was also that while it got a lot of press with Vichot, it was likely to be a flash in the pan thing as long as people expected to be as big as it was with Vichot again. It wasn't as big with Madrazo as it was with Vichot either, but Madrazo having his distinctive look and style meant that the task was easier because the pro in question was so easily recognisable, so it was memorable for the riders even if it wasn't on the level it was with Vichot in 2010 (plus the nerdy look makes Madrazo seem like a bit of an underdog even where he isn't, which makes him easy to support). I can see why it would be a bit disappointing for Mol because after the first couple the riders kind of start to have expectations of the campaign as well, whereas Arthur Vichot really didn't know what to expect in 2010. It's a shame it couldn't keep on at the same level, but I think it could easily have dropped away a lot more in 2011 if it hadn't been that Madrazo was quite a sympathetic and recognisable character, and once it gets to the stage where it's all very organised, the pro is chosen and said pro knows what to expect, the mainstream media picks up on the campaign, it's all sanitised and then you get all these fans cheering for a rider they were told to cheer for, rather than the organic groundswell of support for a less well-known rider along the lines of the initial campaign with Vichot.
PCutter said:It fizzled out a bit last year. Originally it was something a local Adelaide club started with Vichot and it got a lot of press, then everyone wanted to join in and I think the club felt it had been taken over over the top of them, so they pulled back and it became less focussed and became more about people on Twitter talking about the rider and congratulating him on being the obscure pro rather than people actually being at the race/Adelaide to support the rider on the side of the road to the point that Mol commented last year it was a bit disappointing. He got lots of tweets and not much real love.
If they did it again this year, I'd vote for Christopher Juul-Johnson from Saxo due to his tweets since heading to Australia - he even posted a photo of a snake he caught while out riding with Robbie McEwen and Jonathan Cantwell....he's getting into the full Aussie experience.
CQmanager said:I dont get it. How can TDU be a WT race if the average stage length is about 100km and most of the stages are flat. Same will apply to other races and especially to those somewhere in China.
Well, there you go. He's so obscure, no one knows his actual name.LaFlorecita said:What Jensen not Johnson
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