2013 Tour de France CQ game

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Stage 6

Stage Points
Expect Geraint's team which is so sprinter heavy that it looks like an Argos tribute band (Cavendish, Greipel and Ferrari) to take daily honours on most flat stages. Not sure where he expects to get his GC points from though...
Greipel was his unique pick for 100 points
3 teams have Kittel, 13 chose Cav, 8 have Ferrari, and a couple each for Rojas and V Poppel Jnr. Mlafort1 has a 20 point bonus for Impey's yellow jersey.

Guaranteed points standings
(I'll probably do first projected points including GC and Green/Polka dot jersey points after Saturday's stage, time being available)

1 Geraint Too Fast 247
2 LugHugger 167
3 Zlev11 165
4 Blues in the bottle 161
5 Al Pacino 160
5 Pricey Sky 160
5 Martyfulu 160
8 Bicycle Boy 146
9 Tomazo 142
10 Tuarts 137
11 LaFlorecita 135
12 Just Some Guy 132
13 Afrank 126
14 Maaaaaaaarten 120
14 Somar13 120
14 Tigerion 120
17 BigC24 89
18 Mlafort1 53
19 Taiwan 50
20 Kazistuta 46
20 Hoerpi 46
22 MC Mountain 43
23 Jancouver 40
24 Aussie Goddess 34
25 The Hitch 31
26 Minessa 30
27 HelgeBlendet 28
28 Mellow Velo 26
29 Karbonkel 25
29 The Asian 25
29 Vitapen 25
29 Gotland 25
29 Comodoro 25
34 Lightbing 22
35 Mutschi 20
35 Del 1962 20
37 Cyivel 18
38 Hilltop Finisher 17
39 August 14
39 Evansisthe Best 14
41 Whittashau 12
42 Vladimir 11
43 Oliveira 10
44 L'Ouzbek 8
44 Yellow Knight 8
46 CQManager 5
46 Hugo87 5
46 Manafana 5
46 Armchair Cyclist 5
46 Karlboss 5
46 Shalgo 5
52 Blackbandit222 3
52 NairoQ 3
52 Search 3
55 Falze 2
55 GustieNordic 2
55 Asdfgh101 2
58 Fool on the Hill 1

Collective Wisdom team 5

Aussie Goddess and I both had total disaster days: VDB and Brajkovic withdrawing, and Cunego losing a minute and so any reason to think he might be getting decent points, and news that Hesjedal has a fractured rib.
 
Stage 7
Not much to update today.

Not many selected riders today:
Kwiatkowski gives 25 points to BigC24,
Impey gets 20 points (yellow jersey) for Mlafort1,
Gallopin has three managers (Just Some Guy, Blackbandit222 and Fool on the Hill) gaining 5 points each,
and that's it.

JSG goes to joint 10th, Fool on the Hill divests himself of the lanterne rouge.
 
Aug 18, 2009
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Hesjedal
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After a week of racing here is a look at the winning team :eek:
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander -> tiring himself out with long range attacks
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen -> DNF
PINOT Thibaut -> descends worse than Wiggins and Schleck combined, 30th in GC
ROLLAND Pierre -> idiotic race tactics, 25th in GC
HESJEDAL Ryder -> broken rib, way down in GC
DE GENDT Thomas -> way down in GC
TAARAMÄE Rein -> asthma problems, way down in GC
LOPEZ GARCIA David -> way down in GC
SCHLECK Andy -> off pace as expected but doesn't matter as everybody has him

At least, thanks to Sky, we had some world class comedy today ;)
 
Sorry I wasn't able to update last night.
I might need to stick to stage/guaranteed points for one more day.

Stage 8
Main race over, but still some points to be won.

9 teams have Froome for 100 points
4 teams have Porte for 50 points
2 teams have Mollema for 25 points
1 team has Ten Dam for 15 points (Del 1962)
27 teams have Nieve for 10 points
5 teams have Kreuziger for 5 points
13 teams have Quintana for 2 points
2 teams have Anton for 1 point

Congratulations to Hoerpi, Gotland, Comodoro, Oliveira, L'Ouzbek and Yellow Knight who combined Froome with Nieve for 110 points on the day.

Failure of many of the hoped for GC top tenners illustrated by 14 of us failing to get a single point on the first GC relevant stage.

Guaranteed points
1 Geraint Too Fast 257
2 LugHugger 217
3 Martyfulu 195
4 Zlev11 177
5 Al Pacino 172
6 Blues in the bottle 161
7 Pricey Sky 160
8 Bicycle Boy 156
8 Hoerpi 156
10 Tomazo 152
11 Tuarts 147
12 Kazistuta 146
13 MC Mountain 143
14 Just Some Guy 139
15 Afrank 138
16 LaFlorecita 135
16 Gotland 135
16 Comodoro 135
19 Maaaaaaaarten 130
20 Somar13 122
21 Tigerion 120
21 Oliveira 120
23 Cyivel 118
23 L'Ouzbek 118
23 Yellow Knight 118
26 BigC24 114
27 Taiwan 100
28 Minessa 90
29 Whittashau 74
30 Mlafort1 73
31 The Hitch 46
32 Jancouver 45
33 Aussie Goddess 39
34 Del 1962 37
34 Falze 37
36 Mellow Velo 36
37 Karbonkel 35
38 HelgeBlendet 28
39 Vladimir 26
40 The Asian 25
40 Vitapen 25
40 Mutschi 25
43 Lightbing 22
44 Hilltop Finisher 17
45 August 16
45 Evansisthe Best 16
47 Manafana 15
47 Karlboss 15
47 Shalgo 15
47 Search 15
51 GustieNordic 12
52 Blackbandit222 10
53 Fool on the Hill 8
54 Hugo87 6
54 NairoQ 6
56 CQManager 5
56 Armchair Cyclist 5
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 15
 
Stage 9
Out of the Pyrenees:
Jancouver has Dan Martin as a unique pick for 80 points
6 teams have Fuglsang for 50 points
BigC24 has Kwiatkowski as a unique pick (35 points)
9 teams have Froome's 20 point yellow jersey bonus
10 teams have Evans (10 pts)
11 teams have Poels (5 pts)
2 teams have Mollema (3 pts)
2 teams have Navarro (2 pts)
4 teams have Montort (1 pt: whoopee: I got a point)

Despite Jancouver's unique pick of the stage winner, BigC24 combines Fuglsang, Kwiatkowski and Evans for 95 points on the day, and his third highest scorer of the day title in 9 stages. Mutschi also managed a combination (Fuglsang + Navarro) to get today's third ahead of others who picked the Dane.

Guaranteed points ranking
1 Geraint Too Fast 257
2 LugHugger 217
3 BigC24 209
4 Martyfulu 198
5 Hoerpi 181
6 Zlev11 177
7 Al Pacino 172
8 Kazistuta 171
9 Blues in the bottle 166
10 MC Mountain 163
11 Gotland 160
11 Pricey Sky 160
13 Bicycle Boy 156
14 Comodoro 155
15 Tuarts 152
15 Tomazo 152
17 L'Ouzbek 143
17 Cyivel 143
19 Oliveira 140
19 LaFlorecita 140
21 Just Some Guy 139
22 Yellow Knight 138
22 Afrank 138
24 Maaaaaaaarten 135
25 Jancouver 125
25 Tigerion 125
27 Somar13 122
28 Taiwan 100
29 Minessa 95
30 Mlafort1 83
31 HelgeBlendet 78
32 Mutschi 77
33 Whittashau 74
34 Shalgo 65
35 Blackbandit222 60
36 CQManager 55
37 Falze 50
38 Aussie Goddess 49
39 The Hitch 46
40 Karbonkel 45
41 Del 1962 37
42 Vladimir 36
42 Mellow Velo 36
44 Hilltop Finisher 28
45 Vitapen 27
46 The Asian 26
47 Search 25
48 GustieNordic 22
48 Lightbing 22
50 Fool on the Hill 18
50 Manafana 18
52 August 16
52 Evansisthe Best 16
54 Karlboss 15
55 Hugo87 8
56 Armchair Cyclist 6
56 NairoQ 6
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 15

GC points only

1 L'Ouzbek 1037
2 Hoerpi 1035
3 Gotland 1006
4 Oliveira 990
5 Yellow Knight 971
6 Comodoro 960
7 Kazistuta 927
8 Cyivel 893
9 Falze 861
10 MC Mountain 853
11 Del 1962 832
12 Martyfulu 754
13 Search 724
14 Vladimir 718
15 The Hitch 681
16 Whittashau 674
17 Mutschi 673
18 Jancouver 662
19 Al Pacino 632
20 Afrank 599
21 NairoQ 596
22 Aussie Goddess 587
23 Zlev11 580
24 Blackbandit222 574
25 BigC24 534
25 Shalgo 534
27 Fool on the Hill 528
28 GustieNordic 518
29 Somar13 508
30 August 501
30 Evansisthe Best 501
32 HelgeBlendet 483
33 Just Some Guy 480
34 Minessa 473
35 Manafana 470
36 Karbonkel 448
37 Tuarts 446
38 Maaaaaaaarten 436
39 Tomazo 434
40 Bicycle Boy 426
41 Mlafort1 421
42 CQManager 414
43 Karlboss 402
44 Mellow Velo 391
45 Hugo87 387
46 Armchair Cyclist 384
47 Hilltop Finisher 378
48 Geraint Too Fast 360
49 The Asian 351
50 Asdfgh101 329
51 Taiwan 315
52 Vitapen 302
53 Pricey Sky 298
54 LugHugger 293
55 LaFlorecita 292
56 Blues in the bottle 287
56 Tigerion 287
58 Lightbing 284

Collective Wisdom team 424

Falze is the only non-Froomite ahead of anyone who did pick Froome: I suspect that those 9 will continue to dominate the rankings.

Perhaps its inevitable with the limited budget left after choosing Froome, there is a lot of overlap in the Froome squads; apart from Froome and Schleck, the top 6 all share Nieve, the top 3 all have Poels, and the top 2 both have Gadret.

Projected overall
Including stage points and yellow jerseys thus far, and Yellow, Green and Polka dot jersey points according to current standings.

1 Hoerpi 1286
2 L'Ouzbek 1248
3 Gotland 1234
4 Oliveira 1198
5 Comodoro 1180
6 Yellow Knight 1177
7 Kazistuta 1153
8 Cyivel 1091
9 MC Mountain 1071
10 Falze 1009
11 Del 1962 974
12 Martyfulu 972
13 Al Pacino 879
14 Search 872
15 Zlev11 836
16 Whittashau 823
17 The Hitch 822
18 Afrank 817
19 Jancouver 788
20 Vladimir 772
21 BigC24 758
22 Mutschi 753
23 Geraint Too Fast 719
24 Tomazo 718
25 NairoQ 707
26 Shalgo 697
27 Somar13 690
28 Just Some Guy 682
29 Blackbandit222 662
30 HelgeBlendet 644
31 Aussie Goddess 636
32 GustieNordic 635
33 Bicycle Boy 632
34 August 627
35 Evansisthe Best 625
36 Minessa 621
36 Tuarts 621
36 Maaaaaaaarten 621
39 Mlafort1 584
40 LugHugger 582
41 Fool on the Hill 571
42 CQManager 552
43 Pricey Sky 546
44 Mellow Velo 522
45 Karlboss 512
46 Karbonkel 511
47 Manafana 506
48 Blues in the bottle 492
49 Hugo87 478
50 LaFlorecita 467
51 The Asian 457
52 Taiwan 453
53 Tigerion 450
54 Asdfgh101 411
55 Hilltop Finisher 406
56 Armchair Cyclist 393
57 Lightbing 389
58 Vitapen 329

Collective Wisdom team 537

No-one stopping the 9 Froomites from being the top 9 here. Not many sprinters among their selections (a couple of them have Ferrari, a couple have Danny van Poppel) so variations in GC between 15th and 50th, or unexpected stage placings, seem likely to be where the decisive differences will be.
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
Stage 9
Out of the Pyrenees:
Jancouver has Dan Martin as a unique pick for 80 points
6 teams have Fuglsang for 50 points
BigC24 has Kwiatkowski as a unique pick (35 points)
9 teams have Froome's 20 point yellow jersey bonus
10 teams have Evans (10 pts)
11 teams have Poels (5 pts)
2 teams have Mollema (3 pts)
2 teams have Navarro (2 pts)
4 teams have Montort (1 pt: woopee: I got a point)

Despite Jancouver's unique pick of the stage winner, BigC24 combines Fuglsang, Kwiatkowski and Evans for 95 points on the day, and his third highest scorer of the day title in 9 stages. Mutschi also managed a combination (Fuglsang + Navarro) to get today's third ahead of others who picked the Dane.

Guaranteed points ranking
1 Geraint Too Fast 257
2 LugHugger 217
3 BigC24 209
4 Martyfulu 198
5 Hoerpi 181
6 Zlev11 177
7 Al Pacino 172
8 Kazistuta 171
9 Blues in the bottle 166
10 MC Mountain 163
11 Gotland 160
11 Pricey Sky 160
13 Bicycle Boy 156
14 Comodoro 155
15 Tuarts 152
15 Tomazo 152
17 L'Ouzbek 143
17 Cyivel 143
19 Oliveira 140
19 LaFlorecita 140
21 Just Some Guy 139
22 Yellow Knight 138
22 Afrank 138
24 Maaaaaaaarten 135
25 Jancouver 125
25 Tigerion 125
27 Somar13 122
28 Taiwan 100
29 Minessa 95
30 Mlafort1 83
31 HelgeBlendet 78
32 Mutschi 77
33 Whittashau 74
34 Shalgo 65
35 Blackbandit222 60
36 CQManager 55
37 Falze 50
38 Aussie Goddess 49
39 The Hitch 46
40 Karbonkel 45
41 Del 1962 37
42 Vladimir 36
42 Mellow Velo 36
44 Hilltop Finisher 28
45 Vitapen 27
46 The Asian 26
47 Search 25
48 GustieNordic 22
48 Lightbing 22
50 Fool on the Hill 18
50 Manafana 18
52 August 16
52 Evansisthe Best 16
54 Karlboss 15
55 Hugo87 8
56 Armchair Cyclist 6
56 NairoQ 6
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 15

Thanks for the update. Happy to see Martin raking some points for me. I cant win this game, but I would be happy to be in the upper 50% and beat the collective wisdom team. For that to happen, I need D.Martin and Roman K. to finish high on the GC.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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My team is essentially the collective wisdom team, using the same strategy, but the riders I agonised over leaving out, I'd be looking a whole lot better now. So far one fail pick Taaramae, i knew he wasn't on form, but couldn't resist the cost, and 2 bad luck picks, Bouhanni intestinal problems, and JVDB with the crash. Still a long way to go, but I don't have anyone who could surprise, I'm out of it. :(
 
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My team is really embarrassing me.

VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen LTB 706 - DNF
PINOT Thibaut FDJ 701 - Blocked mentally and can't descend.
ROLLAND Pierre EUC 646 - Just wants KOM points, no stage points.
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor EUS 600 - I had Nieve and changed for Anton, so stupid.
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel COF 424 - Getting some shape and could still be a top-15.
HESJEDAL Ryder GRS 396 - Broken rib.
DE GENDT Thomas VCD 221 - It's on honeymoon.
TAARAMÄE Rein COF 214 - No comments.
SCHLECK Andy RLT 22 - Good surprise.
 
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Oh Cav, I expected him to be a much better pick.
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Oh well, I still have the Vuelta CQ game to look forward to. :eek:
 
manafana said:
if teams with froome dominate at end my faith in the cq points format is gone as its obviously top heavy

It doesn't necessarily go that way: Rodriguez outscored Contador in the Vuelta, and Valverde only took 40 fewer CQ points than Alberto. Rodriguez outscored Hesjedal in the Giro last year.

If you consider some reasonable hopes in the current standings, if Van den Broeck were 4th in GC, if Pinot were 8th and Hesjedal 12th, Cunego 13th, De Ghent 14th and Taaramae 20th, bung them a few mountain point each, then the collective wisdom team would currently (after stage 9: I'm still waiting to watch stage 10 and avoiding the results) have about 1400 and Vladimir would be in the lead with about 1550.
The dominance of the Froome teams is largely down to the failure of mid price, mid ambition riders, and the fact that no-one picked the current 2nd place (Valverde), and only 2 have the third (Mollema), both of whom have another high price rider who is underperforming (Evans and Kittel).

Froome was not inevitably the way to succeed: it still might not be (although I suspect it will be).
 
Stage 10

On the Day:
three teams have Kittel (Martyfulu, Tuarts and Pricey Sky), but they are beaten to daily honours by our sprint specialist Geraint, who has 85 points for Greipel + Cav. Unique picks Bonnet and Reza get off the mark for Fool on the Hill and Comodoro respectively.

Guaranteed points
1 Geraint Too Fast 342
2 Martyfulu 278
3 LugHugger 252
4 Pricey Sky 240
5 Tuarts 232
6 Zlev11 213
7 BigC24 209
8 Al Pacino 207
9 Hoerpi 203
10 Blues in the bottle 202
11 Kazistuta 193
12 Bicycle Boy 191
13 Tomazo 187
14 MC Mountain 183
15 Gotland 180
16 Comodoro 178
17 LaFlorecita 175
18 Just Some Guy 174
19 Afrank 173
20 Maaaaaaaarten 170
21 L'Ouzbek 163
21 Cyivel 163
23 Oliveira 160
23 Tigerion 160
25 Yellow Knight 158
26 Somar13 157
27 Jancouver 125
28 Taiwan 100
29 Minessa 95
30 Mlafort1 83
31 HelgeBlendet 78
32 Mutschi 77
33 Whittashau 74
34 Shalgo 65
35 Blackbandit222 60
36 CQManager 55
37 Falze 50
38 Aussie Goddess 49
39 The Hitch 46
40 Karbonkel 45
41 Del 1962 37
42 Vladimir 36
42 Mellow Velo 36
44 Fool on the Hill 33
45 Hilltop Finisher 28
46 Vitapen 27
47 The Asian 26
48 Search 25
49 GustieNordic 22
49 Lightbing 22
51 Manafana 18
52 August 16
52 Evansisthe Best 16
54 Karlboss 15
55 Hugo87 8
56 NairoQ 6
56 Armchair Cyclist 6
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 15


Projected scores
Martyfulu moves, just, into the top 10 as top non-Froomer. Rather more change in this one to be expected tomorrow.

1 Hoerpi 1313
2 L'Ouzbek 1266
3 Gotland 1260
4 Oliveira 1216
5 Comodoro 1203
6 Yellow Knight 1198
7 Kazistuta 1176
8 Cyivel 1113
9 MC Mountain 1091
10 Martyfulu 1070
11 Falze 1009
12 Del 1962 973
13 Al Pacino 912
14 Zlev11 872
14 Search 872
16 Afrank 848
17 The Hitch 820
18 Whittashau 819
19 Geraint Too Fast 804
20 Jancouver 790
21 Vladimir 770
22 BigC24 753
22 Mutschi 753
24 Tomazo 751
25 Somar13 725
26 Tuarts 724
27 Just Some Guy 717
28 NairoQ 703
29 Shalgo 695
30 Bicycle Boy 668
31 Blackbandit222 660
32 Maaaaaaaarten 654
33 HelgeBlendet 648
34 Pricey Sky 647
35 Aussie Goddess 636
36 GustieNordic 633
37 August 625
38 Evansisthe Best 623
39 Minessa 619
40 LugHugger 615
41 Fool on the Hill 584
42 Mlafort1 573
43 CQManager 550
44 Blues in the bottle 528
45 Mellow Velo 520
46 Karlboss 511
47 Karbonkel 509
48 Manafana 506
49 LaFlorecita 504
50 Tigerion 485
51 Hugo87 478
52 The Asian 455
53 Taiwan 449
54 Asdfgh101 410
55 Hilltop Finisher 408
56 Armchair Cyclist 391
57 Lightbing 387
58 Vitapen 327

Collective Wisdom team 535
 
Of the 9 teams that have Froome, all bar one have De Gendt (as do 32 of us all told), so that 105 point combination wins the daily honours.

Nobody had Tony Martin, and outside of the top three, Porte, Kwiatkowski and Dumoulin have 6 pickers between them, and the others were unchosen.

Guaranteed points

1 Geraint Too Fast 342
2 Hoerpi 308
3 Kazistuta 298
4 MC Mountain 288
5 Gotland 285
6 Martyfulu 278
7 LugHugger 277
8 Pricey Sky 275
9 L'Ouzbek 268
9 Cyivel 268
11 Tuarts 267
12 Oliveira 265
13 Yellow Knight 263
14 Comodoro 248
14 Zlev11 248
16 Blues in the bottle 237
17 BigC24 224
18 Just Some Guy 209
19 Afrank 208
20 Al Pacino 207
21 Tigerion 195
22 Bicycle Boy 191
23 Tomazo 187
24 LaFlorecita 177
25 Maaaaaaaarten 170
26 Taiwan 160
27 Somar13 157
28 Minessa 155
29 Jancouver 125
30 HelgeBlendet 113
31 Mutschi 112
32 Shalgo 100
33 Whittashau 99
34 Blackbandit222 95
35 CQManager 90
36 Falze 85
37 Mlafort1 83
38 Karbonkel 80
39 Vladimir 71
40 Search 60
41 Lightbing 57
42 Manafana 53
43 August 51
43 Evansisthe Best 51
45 Aussie Goddess 49
46 The Hitch 46
47 Hugo87 43
48 Armchair Cyclist 41
49 Del 1962 37
50 Mellow Velo 36
51 Fool on the Hill 33
52 Hilltop Finisher 28
53 Vitapen 27
54 The Asian 26
55 GustieNordic 22
56 Karlboss 15
57 NairoQ 6
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 50

Projected points
Main changes among those selected in the game

Kwiatkowski 125 pts for 1 team
Froome, 70 for 9 teams
Peraud, 50 for 2 teams
De Gendt, 35 for 32 teams
Porte, 31 for 4 teams
...
Quintana, -30 for 13 teams
Nieve, -40 for 27 teams
Ten Dam, -60 for 1 team
D Martin -80 for 1 team.

1 Hoerpi 1357
2 L'Ouzbek 1312
3 Gotland 1308
4 Oliveira 1268
5 Kazistuta 1263
6 Yellow Knight 1250
7 Comodoro 1221
8 Cyivel 1204
9 MC Mountain 1184
10 Martyfulu 1019
11 Falze 1006
12 BigC24 882
13 Del 1962 869
14 Search 839
15 Zlev11 826
15 Al Pacino 826
17 Afrank 801
18 Mutschi 776
19 Vladimir 770
20 The Hitch 767
21 Whittashau 762
22 Geraint Too Fast 752
23 Just Some Guy 710
24 Tuarts 704
24 Jancouver 704
26 Tomazo 698
27 Somar13 683
28 Shalgo 677
29 HelgeBlendet 676
30 Pricey Sky 667
31 Blackbandit222 654
31 NairoQ 654
33 Aussie Goddess 640
34 LugHugger 634
35 Minessa 632
36 August 617
37 Evansisthe Best 615
38 Bicycle Boy 614
39 Maaaaaaaarten 597
40 GustieNordic 596
41 Mlafort1 581
42 CQManager 572
43 Manafana 560
44 Fool on the Hill 559
45 Blues in the bottle 551
46 Karbonkel 509
47 Tigerion 507
48 Taiwan 499
49 Hugo87 493
50 LaFlorecita 490
51 Armchair Cyclist 475
52 Mellow Velo 467
53 Karlboss 457
54 The Asian 452
55 Hilltop Finisher 420
56 Lightbing 409
57 Asdfgh101 391
58 Vitapen 310

Collective Wisdom team 517
 
Stage 12
Another sprint, another stage that won't make much difference to the projected table, but increases battle between the teams that spent big on a main sprinter.

80 points for the three Kittelites (Martyfulu, Tuarts and Pricey Sky), who share the daily honours
50 points for the 13 Cavenders, who might be concluding that they have backed the wrong horse, although they get 15 extra points for his rise to 2nd in the green jersey competition.
20 more yellow jersey points for the increasingly smug Froomians
15 points for the 8 bargain hunters who took Ferrari, who has given a decent return on investment
10 points for Mlafort1 on account of his unique pick Impey, who already exceeded expectations
5 points for the (probably rather disappointed thus far) pair who chose Rojas.

Guaranteed points
1 Geraint Too Fast 407
2 Martyfulu 358
3 Pricey Sky 355
4 Tuarts 347
5 Hoerpi 328
6 LugHugger 327
7 Gotland 320
8 Kazistuta 318
9 MC Mountain 308
10 Zlev11 303
11 Blues in the bottle 292
12 L'Ouzbek 288
12 Cyivel 288
14 Oliveira 285
15 Yellow Knight 283
15 Comodoro 283
17 Al Pacino 272
18 Just Some Guy 259
19 Afrank 258
20 Tomazo 252
21 Tigerion 245
22 LaFlorecita 242
23 Bicycle Boy 241
24 BigC24 224
25 Maaaaaaaarten 220
26 Somar13 207
27 Taiwan 175
28 Minessa 155
29 Jancouver 125
30 HelgeBlendet 113
31 Mutschi 112
32 Shalgo 100
33 Whittashau 99
34 Blackbandit222 95
35 Mlafort1 93
36 CQManager 90
37 Falze 85
38 Karbonkel 80
39 Vladimir 71
40 Search 60
41 Lightbing 57
42 Manafana 53
43 Del 1962 52
44 August 51
44 Evansisthe Best 51
46 Aussie Goddess 49
47 The Hitch 46
48 Hugo87 43
49 Armchair Cyclist 41
50 Mellow Velo 36
51 Fool on the Hill 33
52 Hilltop Finisher 28
53 Vitapen 27
54 The Asian 26
55 GustieNordic 22
56 Karlboss 15
57 NairoQ 6
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 50
 
Stage 13
Sprint stage won by Cavendish ahead of Sagan. No other major sprinters that were chosen got points.

Well, OK, maybe there was more to today's race than that.
13 Cavenders all share daily honours, as none of them had any other top ten finisher.
2 teams who picked Mollema, 6 that have Fuglsang, 5 who picked Kreuziger, 1 that chose Ten Dam, and one that has Rogers will be surprised to have points from a flat stage.

Guaranteed points
1 Geraint Too Fast 487
2 LugHugger 407
3 Martyfulu 393
4 Zlev11 383
5 Blues in the bottle 372
6 Pricey Sky 355
7 Al Pacino 352
8 Hoerpi 348
9 Tuarts 347
10 Gotland 340
11 Just Some Guy 339
12 Kazistuta 338
12 Afrank 338
14 Tomazo 332
15 MC Mountain 328
16 Tigerion 325
17 LaFlorecita 322
18 Bicycle Boy 321
19 L'Ouzbek 308
19 Cyivel 308
21 Oliveira 305
22 Yellow Knight 303
22 Comodoro 303
24 Maaaaaaaarten 300
25 Somar13 287
26 BigC24 249
27 Taiwan 175
28 Minessa 155
29 Mutschi 147
30 HelgeBlendet 139
31 Jancouver 135
32 Shalgo 125
33 Blackbandit222 120
33 Falze 120
35 CQManager 115
36 Whittashau 99
37 Mlafort1 93
38 Vladimir 81
39 Karbonkel 80
40 Search 60
41 Aussie Goddess 59
42 Lightbing 57
43 The Hitch 56
44 Del 1962 55
45 Manafana 53
46 August 51
46 Evansisthe Best 51
48 Hugo87 43
49 Armchair Cyclist 41
50 Mellow Velo 36
51 Fool on the Hill 33
52 Hilltop Finisher 28
53 Vitapen 27
54 The Asian 26
55 GustieNordic 22
56 Karlboss 15
57 NairoQ 6
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 50

Projected points
Main points changes over two stages (but anything other than stage points were nearly all today) for riders that were chosen.
Fuglsang +155 for 6 teams
Cavendish +145 for 13 teams
Mollema +105 for 2 teams
Kittel + 80 for 1 team
Froome +40 for 9 teams
Kreuziger +40 for 5 teams
Ten Dam +33 for 1 team
Rogers +27 for 1 team
Talansky +27 for 1 team
Monfort +23 for 4 teams
Schleck +22 for 56 teams
Evans +20 for 10 teams
Peraud +20 for 2 teams
D Martin +20 for 1 team
...
Hesjedal -10 for 32 teams
Greipel -15 for 1 team
Nieve -33 for 27 teams

Main scorers over these 2 days:
1 Mutschi 231
2 HelgeBlendet 189
3 BigC24 180
4 LaFlorecita 167
5= Blackbandit, BluesintheBottle & Taiwan 164
...
54 Gustie Nordic -14
55 Mellow Velo -26
56 Karlboss -31
57 Whittashau -32
58 Minessa -36

If it were to finish today...

1 Hoerpi 1385
2 Gotland 1352
3 L'Ouzbek 1342
4 Kazistuta 1310
5 Oliveira 1290
6 Yellow Knight 1274
7 Comodoro 1265
8 Cyivel 1248
9 MC Mountain 1240
10 Martyfulu 1180
11 Falze 1108
12 BigC24 1062
13 Mutschi 1007
14 Al Pacino 969
15 Zlev11 958
16 Afrank 941
17 Del 1962 919
18 Geraint Too Fast 886
19 Just Some Guy 867
20 HelgeBlendet 865
21 Tomazo 836
22 Search 830
23 Somar13 828
24 Blackbandit222 818
25 Vladimir 806
26 Shalgo 800
27 LugHugger 793
28 The Hitch 781
28 Jancouver 781
30 Tuarts 757
31 Pricey Sky 752
32 Whittashau 730
32 Bicycle Boy 730
34 CQManager 728
35 Maaaaaaaarten 720
36 Blues in the bottle 715
37 Aussie Goddess 706
38 Tigerion 663
39 LaFlorecita 657
40 NairoQ 655
40 Mlafort1 655
42 August 624
43 Evansisthe Best 622
44 Fool on the Hill 598
45 Minessa 596
46 GustieNordic 584
47 Manafana 575
48 Taiwan 522
49 Armchair Cyclist 521
50 Hugo87 509
51 Karbonkel 505
52 Hilltop Finisher 480
53 The Asian 476
54 Mellow Velo 441
55 Karlboss 426
56 Lightbing 410
57 Asdfgh101 403
58 Vitapen 337

Collective Wisdom team 485
 
Stage 14
50 points for the 4 teams with Albasini
35 points for Mlafort1, who has had good returns from his unique picks
25 points for the two perpetually disappointed teams with Rojas
2 pts for 2 teams with Brutt
and, of course, 20 more yellow points for the Froomites.

None of the Albasini teams had any other point earners on the day, so those 4 (Aussie Goddess, Jancouver, Martyfulu and Pricey Sky) share daily honours.


Guaranteed points
1 Geraint Too Fast 489
2 Martyfulu 443
3 Zlev11 408
4 LugHugger 407
5 Pricey Sky 405
6 Blues in the bottle 397
7 Hoerpi 368
8 Gotland 360
9 Kazistuta 358
10 Al Pacino 352
11 MC Mountain 348
12 Tuarts 347
13 Just Some Guy 339
14 Afrank 338
15 Tomazo 332
16 Cyivel 330
17 L'Ouzbek 328
18 Oliveira 325
18 Tigerion 325
20 Yellow Knight 323
20 Comodoro 323
22 LaFlorecita 322
23 Bicycle Boy 321
24 Maaaaaaaarten 300
25 Somar13 287
26 BigC24 249
27 Jancouver 185
28 Taiwan 175
29 Minessa 155
30 Mutschi 147
31 HelgeBlendet 139
32 Mlafort1 128
33 Shalgo 125
34 Falze 120
34 Blackbandit222 120
36 CQManager 115
37 Aussie Goddess 109
38 Whittashau 99
39 Vladimir 81
40 Karbonkel 80
41 Search 60
42 Lightbing 57
43 The Hitch 56
44 Del 1962 55
45 Manafana 53
46 August 51
46 Evansisthe Best 51
48 Hugo87 43
49 Armchair Cyclist 41
50 Mellow Velo 36
51 Fool on the Hill 33
52 Hilltop Finisher 28
53 Vitapen 27
54 The Asian 26
55 GustieNordic 22
56 Karlboss 15
57 NairoQ 6
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 50

Projected points
Only small reshuffles today: Mlafort1, Jancouver and Martyfulu are top scorers on the day.

1 Hoerpi 1393
2 Gotland 1360
3 L'Ouzbek 1349
4 Kazistuta 1316
5 Oliveira 1294
6 Yellow Knight 1281
7 Comodoro 1275
8 Cyivel 1258
9 MC Mountain 1246
10 Martyfulu 1220
11 Falze 1085
12 BigC24 1042
13 Mutschi 993
14 Zlev11 977
15 Al Pacino 957
16 Afrank 927
17 Del 1962 905
18 Geraint Too Fast 877
19 Just Some Guy 856
20 HelgeBlendet 842
21 Jancouver 826
22 Tomazo 821
23 Somar13 813
24 Blackbandit222 807
25 Search 805
26 Pricey Sky 787
27 Shalgo 785
27 Vladimir 785
29 LugHugger 780
30 The Hitch 769
31 Tuarts 757
32 Blues in the bottle 734
32 Aussie Goddess 734
34 Bicycle Boy 716
34 Whittashau 716
36 CQManager 713
37 Maaaaaaaarten 710
38 Mlafort1 708
39 Tigerion 652
40 LaFlorecita 647
41 NairoQ 639
42 August 610
43 Evansisthe Best 609
44 Minessa 581
45 Fool on the Hill 578
46 Manafana 568
47 GustieNordic 560
48 Taiwan 507
49 Armchair Cyclist 502
50 Hugo87 496
51 Karbonkel 484
52 The Asian 456
53 Hilltop Finisher 453
54 Mellow Velo 429
55 Karlboss 412
56 Asdfgh101 402
57 Lightbing 395
58 Vitapen 327

Collective Wisdom team 470
 
Stage 15: Mont Ventoux

Stage points
80 + 20 for Froome’s 9 teams
50 for the 13 Quintana teams
35 for the 27 Nieve teams
15 for the 5 Kreuziger teams
5 for the 6 Fuglsang teams
3 for the 2 teams with Mollema
2 for the one team with Ten Dam
1 for the two Peraud teams (hooray! I got a point!)

6 for the Froome teams also have Nieve, they share the daily prize, so well done to Comodoro, Yellow Knight, Oliveira, L’Ouzbek, Gotland and Hoerpi

1 Geraint Too Fast 524
2 Hoerpi 503
3 Gotland 495
4 Zlev11 493
5 Martyfulu 481
6 L'Ouzbek 463
7 Oliveira 460
8 Kazistuta 458
8 Yellow Knight 458
8 Comodoro 458
11 MC Mountain 448
12 Al Pacino 437
13 Cyivel 430
14 Afrank 423
15 LugHugger 407
16 Pricey Sky 405
17 Blues in the bottle 397
18 Just Some Guy 389
19 Tuarts 382
20 Tomazo 367
21 Bicycle Boy 356
22 Somar13 337
23 Maaaaaaaarten 335
24 Tigerion 325
25 LaFlorecita 322
26 BigC24 254
27 Jancouver 200
28 Minessa 190
29 Whittashau 184
30 Blackbandit222 175
30 Taiwan 175
32 Mutschi 167
33 Shalgo 165
34 Falze 158
35 Search 145
36 HelgeBlendet 144
37 Vladimir 131
38 Mlafort1 128
39 Aussie Goddess 124
40 CQManager 120
41 Karbonkel 115
42 Del 1962 107
43 The Hitch 106
44 August 101
44 Evansisthe Best 101
46 Manafana 89
47 Fool on the Hill 83
48 Mellow Velo 71
49 GustieNordic 57
49 Lightbing 57
51 NairoQ 56
52 Karlboss 50
53 Hugo87 43
54 Armchair Cyclist 42
55 Hilltop Finisher 28
56 Vitapen 27
57 The Asian 26
58 Asdfgh101 2

Collective Wisdom team 85

Projected standings

Today’s major gains and losers (riders in game only)

Quintana +135
Froome +130
Nieve + 76
Kreuziger +30
Rogers +20
Montfort +16
Velits +12
Zubeldia +11

Talansky -10
Poels -10
Van Garderen -17
Schleck -18
Porte -20
Fuglsang -22
Evans -26
Rolland -57
Kwiatkowski -70

Yellow Knight gained most points (but only one place) today: Afrank, Al Pacino and Zlev11 all defeated the rest of the Froome teams on daily haul.

1 Hoerpi 1567
2 L'Ouzbek 1532
3 Gotland 1531
4 Oliveira 1485
5 Yellow Knight 1478
6 Comodoro 1463
7 Kazistuta 1421
8 Cyivel 1357
9 MC Mountain 1350
10 Martyfulu 1283
11 Zlev11 1168
12 Al Pacino 1149
13 Afrank 1120
14 Falze 1063
15 Mutschi 988
16 Del 1962 978
17 Just Some Guy 971
18 Geraint Too Fast 934
19 Somar13 927
20 Search 908
21 BigC24 906
22 Blackbandit222 900
23 Whittashau 893
24 Jancouver 867
25 Vladimir 845
26 Tomazo 816
27 The Hitch 800
28 Bicycle Boy 787
29 Tuarts 781
30 HelgeBlendet 763
31 Maaaaaaaarten 762
32 Shalgo 757
33 LugHugger 741
34 Pricey Sky 721
35 Aussie Goddess 715
36 Blues in the bottle 704
37 NairoQ 701
38 Fool on the Hill 669
39 August 667
39 Evansisthe Best 667
41 Manafana 654
42 LaFlorecita 624
43 Tigerion 622
44 CQManager 609
45 Minessa 602
46 Mlafort1 593
47 GustieNordic 530
48 Karbonkel 514
49 Armchair Cyclist 494
50 Taiwan 466
51 Mellow Velo 430
52 Karlboss 424
53 Hilltop Finisher 420
54 Hugo87 418
55 The Asian 392
56 Lightbing 313
57 Asdfgh101 309
58 Vitapen 308

Collective Wisdom team 464
 
Stage 16
3 teams have 50 points for Riblon
4 teams have Jeannesson for 35 points
3 teams have Coppel for 25 points
20 for Froome's inevitable retention of yellow
1 team has Tpom Dumoulin for 10 points
3 teams have Astarloza for 5 points
1 team has Meyer for 2 points

Daily guaranteed points
1 Yellow Knight 70pts for Riblon + Froome
2 Jancouver 62 pts for Jeannesson, Coppel and Meyer
3= Hoerpi and Gotland, 55 pts for Jeannesson and Froome

Guaranteed points
The relentless gain of yellow jersey points finally puts the froome teams above the green jersey team of Geraint Too Fast.

1 Hoerpi 558
2 Gotland 550
3 Zlev11 543
4 Yellow Knight 528
5 Geraint Too Fast 524
6 Comodoro 503
7 Oliveira 485
8 L'Ouzbek 483
8 Kazistuta 483
10 Martyfulu 481
11 MC Mountain 468
12 Al Pacino 462
13 Cyivel 450
14 Afrank 423
15 LugHugger 407
16 Pricey Sky 405
17 Blues in the bottle 397
18 Just Some Guy 389
19 Tuarts 382
20 Tomazo 367
21 Bicycle Boy 356
22 Somar13 342
23 Maaaaaaaarten 335
24 LaFlorecita 332
25 Tigerion 325
26 Jancouver 262
27 BigC24 254
28 Minessa 190
29 Whittashau 184
30 Blackbandit222 175
30 Taiwan 175
32 Mutschi 167
33 Shalgo 165
34 Falze 158
35 Search 145
36 HelgeBlendet 144
37 Vladimir 131
38 Mlafort1 128
39 Aussie Goddess 124
40 CQManager 120
41 Karbonkel 115
42 Del 1962 107
43 The Hitch 106
44 August 101
44 Evansisthe Best 101
46 Manafana 89
47 Fool on the Hill 83
48 Mellow Velo 71
49 Hilltop Finisher 63
50 GustieNordic 57
50 Lightbing 57
52 NairoQ 56
53 Asdfgh101 52
54 Karlboss 50
55 Hugo87 43
56 Armchair Cyclist 42
57 Vitapen 27
58 The Asian 26

Collective Wisdom team 85
Projected points
Major gains and losses (selected riders only)
Riblon 56 points for 3 teams
Jeannesson 41 pts for 4 teams
Navarro 38 points for 4 teams
Quintana 30 points for 13 teams
Coppel 25 points for 3 teams
D Martin 20 points for 1 team
Froome 20 pts for 9 teams
Velits 16 pts for 2 teams

Vorganov -10 for 1 team
Anton -14 for 2 teams
Monfort -16 for 4 teams
Kwiatkowski -20 for 1 team
Pinot -20 for 31 teams
D Van Poppel -21 for 2 teams
Ten Dam -30 for 1 team
Fuglsang -30 for 6 teams.
2/3 of us have a net loss of expected points on the day.
Yellow Knight moves up 2 places and onto the podium.

1 Hoerpi 1587
2 Gotland 1576
3 Yellow Knight 1538
4 L'Ouzbek 1530
5 Oliveira 1503
6 Comodoro 1497
7 Kazistuta 1416
8 Cyivel 1367
9 MC Mountain 1366
10 Martyfulu 1252
11 Zlev11 1244
12 Al Pacino 1189
13 Afrank 1118
14 Falze 1043
15 Just Some Guy 997
16 Mutschi 988
17 Jancouver 967
18 Somar13 962
19 Del 1962 943
20 Geraint Too Fast 923
21 Search 918
22 Whittashau 903
23 Blackbandit222 876
24 BigC24 849
25 Vladimir 809
26 Tomazo 781
27 The Hitch 765
28 Tuarts 761
29 Bicycle Boy 740
30 LugHugger 736
31 Maaaaaaaarten 721
32 Pricey Sky 707
33 HelgeBlendet 705
34 Aussie Goddess 704
35 Shalgo 693
36 NairoQ 686
37 Blues in the bottle 674
38 August 669
38 Evansisthe Best 669
40 Fool on the Hill 668
41 Manafana 651
42 LaFlorecita 620
43 Tigerion 592
44 Mlafort1 586
45 Minessa 566
46 CQManager 551
47 GustieNordic 489
48 Karbonkel 478
49 Taiwan 458
50 Armchair Cyclist 454
51 Hilltop Finisher 414
51 Hugo87 414
53 Mellow Velo 395
54 Karlboss 383
55 Asdfgh101 348
56 The Asian 347
57 Vitapen 317
58 Lightbing 285

Collective Wisdom team 430