: 2013 Tour de France, stage 19: Bourg-d'Oisans / Le Grand-Bornand, 203.5km

[Dazed and Confused]

You still think movistar did 100% the right tactic training froome to the finish when they had him isolated 60 k from the end in the pyrenees?

after today, no.
Failed hard sadly.

 

[Sasquatch]

Looking forward tommorow to the battle for the 10th place. Kwiatkowski, Ten Dam and Talanski have only 16 seconds between them.

You're forgetting Nieve who has outclimbed them on all MTF's thus far. If he recovers well, expect him to be up there tomorrow.

 

[classicomano]

Looking forward tommorow to the battle for the 10th place. Kwiatkowski, Ten Dam and Talanski have only 16 seconds between them.

Ten Dam looked like a corpse when he crossed the finish line, even more than usual.

 

[oldcrank]

you easy amused..
you want them to attack on wet with this final and 5 min to Froome.
come on mate.

Of course not, but that is what Riis boldly predicted they would do.

 

[Cyclope]

One more stage and Bertie will keep second, assuming if he can follow Nairo boy though.

Nairo will beat most of them i presume.. one final show from him for this year

 

[AICA ribonucleotide]

30 riders still out there. They might not make the time cut.

 

[willbick]

go Andrew! he was able to hold on to the front group today, so it looks good!

Im sorry to say i backed him to be top10 at start of tour so he's got no chance!

 

[Cyclope]

You're forgetting Nieve who has outclimbed them on all MTF's thus far. If he recovers well, expect him to be up there tomorrow.

Ten Dam looked like a corpse when he crossed the finish line, even more than usual.

Ten Dam,, you can count him out

 

[Frosty]

A long mountainous stage should have a long time cut. Does anyone know what it is?

 

[Revealer]

You're forgetting Nieve who has outclimbed them on all MTF's thus far. If he recovers well, expect him to be up there tomorrow.

Nieve is 1' 41'' behind Kwiatkowski, guess it's possible for him to outclimb all three of them by around two minutes.

 

[HoinkDoink]

30 riders still out there. They might not make the time cut.

Any names?

 

[GroupDK]

Of course not, but that is what Riis boldly predicted they would do.

and yesterday he said, that the cant neglect that Froome is pretty obvius the strongest riders of the bunch sofare in the TDF13, and they will react accordingly to where and how the are placed at this late in the Tour. (2-4-8 and team GC)

its obvius that tactics change as we go on in the tour, so you gotta look at the hole Picture, and not on a single remark said earlyer in the race and clearly to a different status & GC-picture..

 

[pastronef]

Im sorry to say i backed him to be top10 at start of tour so he's got no chance!

so just like me, your favourite riders are cursed?

during this tour mine were: millar, ryder, TJVG, Klody, VDB, Mollema...

nice, no?
anyway
Dan Martin won that stage, so I am glad

 

[Carols]

Chapeau Rui, great ride Again! Chapeau Movi and Valverde! They are getting something out of this Tour after the debacle of Valverde's mechanical.

2 stages and maybe 1 more tomorrow
Nairo on podium, but which spot still to be determined + White Jersey
Valverde getting a top 10 after such bad luck

 

[gregrowlerson]

for the second day in a row, the rider I cheered for, arrived 2nd

I fear today it was me, Kloeden's family and the radioshack team to cheer for Kloeden

Hey! There are many Klodists out there

Terrific ride from Andreas, but Costa is just far too strong.

 

[nesocip]

Time cut around 57,30 should be enough for everyone

 

[Pharazon]

everyone is in

 

[Hugo Koblet]

So where was the great offence you were talking about, Ryo?

 

[boladelmundo]

So where was the great offence you were talking about, Ryo?

Great offense? Who offended whom?

 

[Cyclope]

Time cut around 57,30 should be enough for everyone

everyone is in

Lol Cadel came in with the last bunch.. if they cut shorted it a little bit he would be out. Of course he knows i guess but would've been hella funny

 

[GroupDK]

It was obvius that there is bad blod against Saxo & Leopard. (due to Leopard started from a saxo 2010 fundament)

and todays attack where Leopard with the Guys in the breakaway was close to get a huge jump to nr 1 in team GC.

Remember ' It was "Saxo & Riis" two main Danish staff guys (Kim Andersen & Brian Nygaard) that did the dirty on Saxo after saxo dominated the tour in 2010 (an also won it later)

And where Flavio Becca had luck in wawing some Money infront of saxo's main manager Kim Andersen & PR Saxo-chief Brian Nygaard and succeded in taking something like 70 % of Saxos 2010 team (+ mechanichs and team crew), with both Schlecks (Kim andersen is very close to these Brothers) and Fuglsang & Cancellara & Voight and a couple more riders from saxo.

so evil blood between them, and you can understand why, Kim Andersen (still manager at Leopard) and Brian Nygaard (start Orica greenedge) was close to put saxo in the grave by undergraving there imployer in such a manior. .

so also some of the reason why saxo amongst all the teams didnt wanted, there previus main director Kim Andersen to take the team GC on a Lucky brakaway with 3 Guys..

 

[oldcrank]

its obvius that tactics change as we go on in the tour, so you gotta look at the hole Picture, and not on a single remark said earlyer in the race and clearly to a different status & GC-picture..

I agree with you 100%. It was silly for Riis to say they were going
to attack on every downhill and every uphill all the way to the
finish when that is clearly foolish because tactics will change
everyday as the circumstances change. Riis made a foolish
proclamation and I was just pointing that out, I never seriously
expected his team to actually try to carry it out.

 

[Cyclope]

Well the poll came out right today.. so congrats guys

 

[boladelmundo]

Riis made a foolish
proclamation and I was just pointing that out, I never seriously
expected his team to actually try to carry it out.

Foolish? But why does he have to tell the truth about what his tactics are prior to a race though? Does it make sense if you let your competitors know what you are going to do beforehand? Ever heard of mind games?

Well the poll came out right today.. so congrats guys

Yeah, I have just submitted my vote now, glad I got it right. Oh is this categorized as cheating?

 

[GroupDK]

It was obvius that there is bad blod against Saxo & Leopard. (due to Leopard-team ' pretty much started up ' by buying the 2010 Saxoteam & there crewfundament)

and todays attack where Leopard with the Guys in the breakaway was close to get a huge jump to nr 1 in team GC.

Remember ' It was "Saxo & Riis" two main Danish staff guys (Kim Andersen & Brian Nygaard) that did the dirty on Saxo after saxo dominated the tour in 2010 (an also won it later)

And where Flavio Becca had luck in wawing some Money infront of saxo's main manager Kim Andersen & PR Saxo-chief Brian Nygaard and succeded in taking something like 70 % of Saxos 2010 team (+ mechanichs and team crew), with both Schlecks (Kim andersen is very close to these Brothers) and Fuglsang & Cancellara & Voight, Ogrady and a couple more riders from saxo.

so evil blood between them, and you can understand why, Kim Andersen (still manager at Leopard) and Brian Nygaard (start Orica greenedge) was close to put saxo in the grave by undergraving there imployer in such a manior. .

so also some of the reason why saxo amongst all the teams didnt wanted, there previus main director Kim Andersen to take the team GC on a Lucky brakaway with 3 Guys.

and many peolpe got the oppenion that they deserve what they get, when Kim Andersen was put out of play, after Brynel come to the Leopardteam.. though his now back as the main leopard guy, but still failing pretty hard as manager with Leopard lack of succes..

Brian Nygaard had a hard time working under Becca, WHO mentally was all over the place.. so started the aussie orica greenedge project..

So these teams got a lot of history amongst each other..