2013 Tour de France, Stage 4: Nice / Nice 25km (TTT)

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Jul 19, 2010
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todays result:

most hyped:
Garmin
the fact that in their interview that this is the core of what the team build upon. And they were confident they can deliver the result. Well, they aren't even in the top 3

most expected
QuickStep
even with the injured of martin, they still delivered the best time, only got beaten by 1 second;

most improve
Saxo Tinkoff
with their lackluster season, and the team wasn't look that strong, looks like the team are coming to their form. 8 seconds from the top TTT team and 6 seconds from sky aren't a bad place to be

most walk the walk talk the talk
Sky
they realized they got an injured riders, and they aimed to not loose too much time. They did perform in flying color. just 3 sec off the winner

most surprising
orica green edge
the talk has been about QuickStep and BMC, and they manage to sneak in to claim victory. The presence of matt white might have the impact of their success yesterday and today.

lotto belisol
who da't thought they would be in 5th place just 17 seconds adrift from the winner. Even beat Garmin and BMC.

most disappointing
BMC
with the fire power of what looks like the best in the world TTT squad, only to manage 26 seconds from a lot lesser team.
 
Jul 7, 2012
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Cimber said:
Losing a rider half way through due to an accident will easily vist you those 4-6 secs
They were 8 secs behind. No way would the loss of novel make that much diff
 
Jan 3, 2011
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willbick said:
They were 8 secs behind. No way would the loss of novel make that much diff
They were 1,5 secs behind just after they lost him. They would in my opinion at least have gotten same time as Sky
 
Mar 9, 2013
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
yesterday because 1) he's not in form 2) he's not here for gc 3) so the moment he knew he didn't feel well, he didn't bother, saving energy for the rest of thes tages
today he looked good though, one of the few belkins that actually went fast i think
Well I think its stupid doing that, Belkin will be dissapointed relying on Mollema I think. No way Mollema can keep up in the climb with the favs imo. Everyone probably thought doing Giro was good in hindsight but I bet Gesink regrets it now. I think next year he should go for the TDF thee climbs suit him better than the Giro and Vuelta he sucks on steep gradients, Wiggins was even stronger on the first MTF on the steep bit, I don't no what you think? It's weird though Gesink and JVDB have always been in my fav GC men who I cheer for yet no one else like's them. I think JVDB will finish top 5 and he will beat Valverde, Valverde has bad recovery in the TDF its always been like that.
 
Jul 1, 2013
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willbick said:
They were 8 secs behind. No way would the loss of novel make that much diff
Losing Noval would have made a significant difference. After that they only had 7 pulling
 
Mar 9, 2013
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karlboss said:
Evans looks strong but heavy.
Thing is he as the Giro in his legs he wont be a factor at is age against these guys even without the Giro. He done great to get 3rd in the Giro but he looked strong early on getting bonus seconds in the Hilly first week and when the Mountains came he could not really respond and in the end he was a little lucky imo. I think we need to wait till AX-3 and the stage after that to really see where he is I predict him going backwards same as TJVG.
 
liamito said:
anybody has the individual stage results??
here you go:

1. IMPEY 25'56"28
2. GOSS 25'56"28
3. GERRANS 25'56"28
4. TUFT 25'56"28
5. ALBASINI 25'56"28

6. CHAVANEL 25'57"04
7. KWIATKOWSKI 25'57"04
8. TERPSTRA 25'57"04
9. PINEAU 25'57"04
10. TRENTIN 25'57"04
11. VELITS 25'57"04
12. CAVENDISH 25'57"04
13. MARTIN 25'57"04

14. CLARKE 25'58"19

15. STANNARD 25'59"31
16. LOPEZ 25'59"31
17. KIRYIENKA 25'59"31
18. KENNAUGH 25'59"31
19. PORTE 25'59"31
20. SIUTSOU 25'59"31
21. FROOME 25'59"31
22. BOASSON HAGEN 25'59"31

23. ROGERS 26'05"91
24. CONTADOR 26'05"91
25. KREUZIGER 26'05"91
26. ROCHE 26'05"91
27. BENNATI 26'05"91
28. HERNANDEZ 26'05"91

29. STEEGMANS 26'09"46

30. DE CLERCQ 26'13"04
31. ROELANDTS 26'13"04
32. VAN DEN BR 26'13"04
33. HANSEN 26'13"04
34. BAK 26'13"04

35. MARTIN 26'13"47
36. HESJEDAL 26'13"47
37. TALANSKY 26'13"47
38. VANDEVELDE 26'13"47
39. MILLAR 26'13"47
40. DANIELSON 26'13"47

41. COSTA 26'16"01
42. AMADOR 26'16"01
43. CASTROVIE 26'16"01
44. ERVITI 26'16"01
45. VALVERDE 26'16"01
46. QUINTANA 26'16"01
47. GUTIERREZ 26'16"01
48. PLAZA 26'16"01
49. ROJAS 26'16"01

50. GREIPEL 26'20"81

51. MALORI 26'21"83
52. CIMOLAI 26'21"83
53. SERPA 26'21"83
54. CUNEGO 26'21"83
55. NIEMIEC 26'21"83

56. TOSATTO 26'22"13
57. PAULINHO 26'22"13

58. VAN GARD 26'22"29
59. BOOKWALTER 26'22"29
60. EVANS 26'22"29
61. GILBERT 26'22"29
62. MORABITO 26'22"29
63. MOINARD 26'22"29

64. FERRARI 26'22"31

65. SMUKULIS 26'24"79
66. MORENO 26'24"79
67. RODRIGUEZ 26'24"79
68. VORGANOV 26'24"79
69. TROFIMOV 26'24"79
70. KRISTOFF 26'24"79
71. BRUTT 26'24"79

72. ZUBELDIA 26'25"28
73. VOIGT 26'25"28
74. GALLOPIN 26'25"28
75. SCHLECK 26'25"28
76. KLÖDEN 26'25"28
77. BAKELANTS 26'25"28
78. IRIZAR 26'25"28
79. MONFORT 26'25"28

80. FLECHA 26'31"89
81. POELS 26'31"89
82. WESTRA 26'31"89
83. LAGUTIN 26'31"89
84. BOECKMANS 26'31"89
85. HOOGERLAND 26'31"89

86. BODNAR 26'30"17
87. SAGAN 26'30"17
88. SABATINI 26'30"17
89. VANDBORG 26'30"17
90. MOSER 26'30"17
91. KOREN 26'30"17
92. DE MARCHI 26'30"17

93. GESINK 26'33"11
94. MOLLEMA 26'33"11
95. NORDHAUG 26'33"11
96. TANKINK 26'33"11
97. BOOM 26'33"11
98. TEN DAM 26'33"11

99. MARANGONI 26'36"29

100. HENDERSON 26'37"05

101. GENIEZ 26'38"22
102. BOUHANNI 26'38"22
103. ROY 26'38"22
104. JEANNESSON 26'38"22
105. PINOT 26'38"22
106. VICHOT 26'38"22

107. QUINZIATO 26'38"57

108. FAVILLI 26'44"02

109. THOMAS 26'44"36

110. FEDRIGO 26'51"55

111. FUGLSANG 26'52"80
112. BRAJKOVIC 26'52"80
113. GASPAROTTO 26'52"80
114. LUTSENKO 26'52"80
115. KESSIAKOFF 26'52"80

116. DE GENDT 26'57"53

117. LANCASTER 26'57"94

118. PERAUD 27'00"80
119. BOUET 27'00"80
120. MINARD 27'00"80
121. GADRET 27'00"80
122. DUPONT 27'00"80
123. BARDET 27'00"80
124. RIBLON 27'00"80
125. KADRI 27'00"80

126. O'GRADY 27'02"89

127. MURAVYEV 27'04"08

128. FEILLU 27'06"39
129. VUILLERMOZ 27'06"39
130. SIMON 27'06"39
131. EL FARES 27'06"39
132. MEDEREL 27'06"39
133. LEMOINE 27'06"39

134. SIEBERG 27'07"92

135. VEILLEUX 27'09"11
136. MALACARNE 27'09"11
137. GENE 27'09"11
138. ARASHIRO 27'09"11
139. ROLLAND 27'09"11

140. HIVERT 27'10"03

141. VOECKLER 27'11"36

142. MORI 27'12"43
143. BONO 27'12"43

144. VAN POPPEL,D 27'12"61

145. FISCHER 27'15"06
146. BONNET 27'15"06

147. NAVARDAUSKAS 27'16"29

148. MOLARD 27'16"82
149. GARCIA 27'16"82
150. LE MEVEL 27'16"82
151. NAVARRO 27'16"82
152. COPPEL 27'16"82
153. MATE 27'16"82

154. IZAGUIRRE,G 27'20"38
155. IZAGUIRRE,I 27'20"38
156. OROZ 27'20"38
157. NIEVE 27'20"38
158. ANTON 27'20"38
159. ASTARLOZA 27'20"38

160. VAN POPPEL,B 27'24"19

161. SICARD 27'27"21

162. MEYER 27'28"04

163. LEVARLET 27'28"46

164. LEEZER 27'31"55

165. WYNANTS 27'32"83

166. DIDIER 27'34"63

167. REZA 27'40"31

168. MARINO 27'40"48

169. GAVAZZI 27'40"56

170. WILLEMS 27'40"79

171. TAARAMAE 27'41"66

172. SCHÄR 27'41"70

173. GESCHKE 27'43"75
174. FRÖHLINGER 27'43"75
175. CURVERS 27'43"75
176. DEGENKOLB 27'43"75
177. DE KORT 27'43"75
178. DUMOULIN T 27'43"75
179. KITTEL 27'43"75
180. TIMMER 27'43"75
181. VEELERS 27'43"75

182. BAUER 27'45"55

183. BURGHARDT 27'51"10

184. DUMOULIN S 27'55"71

185. KUCHYNSKI 28'04"68

186. BAZAYEV 28'05"03

187. DENNIS 28'09"39

188. LOBATO 28'10"44

189. DELAPLACE 28'17"43

190. VANMARCKE 28'20"31

191. PEREZ 28'20"92

192. COUSIN 28'41"36
193. GAUTIER 28'41"36

194. NOVAL 30'27"66

195. LOSADA 31'07"26

196. KING HD
 
TANK91 said:
Well I think its stupid doing that, Belkin will be dissapointed relying on Mollema I think. No way Mollema can keep up in the climb with the favs imo. Everyone probably thought doing Giro was good in hindsight but I bet Gesink regrets it now. I think next year he should go for the TDF thee climbs suit him better than the Giro and Vuelta he sucks on steep gradients, Wiggins was even stronger on the first MTF on the steep bit, I don't no what you think? It's weird though Gesink and JVDB have always been in my fav GC men who I cheer for yet no one else like's them. I think JVDB will finish top 5 and he will beat Valverde, Valverde has bad recovery in the TDF its always been like that.
Dunno, a guy who won Emilia 2 times and who dropped Valverde on the steep gradients of La Pandera (Valverde came back at the flatter part after all), should be able to do well on steep Giro climbs...
Just think Gesink isn't a climber anymore. He's changed somehow
 
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Jelantik said:
todays result:

most hyped:
Garmin
the fact that in their interview that this is the core of what the team build upon. And they were confident they can deliver the result. Well, they aren't even in the top 3
Vaughters needs to considerably dial down his arrogance.
 
May 19, 2010
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gjb483 said:
Ted King's SRM data displaying 32:24, ASO saying 32:32.

ASO is so on my s***list right now...
You think they should abandon the official time keeping and go by the riders power meter? Interesting idea.
 
Jul 11, 2011
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neineinei said:
You think they should abandon the official time keeping and go by the riders power meter? Interesting idea.
No, but it does merit further investigation.

The ASO doesn't exactly have a sterling track record so far this tour.
 
May 19, 2010
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kottila said:
By 6 measly seconds after doing the whole ttt injured on his own. Are they playing hardball this year? Maybe they'll throw out the grupetto if they miss the limit or penalize the sprinters for hanging on to cars
UCI changed the rules last season, it is now in "exceptional cases only, unpredictable and of force majeure," (2.6.032) the jury can extend the finishing time. By the rules they now will have to throw out a 50 man grupetto if they don't make the time limit, unless they are hindered by a jökulhlaup, a pyroclastic flow or are held up by a tyre stealing mob of keas.
 
This Ted King issue is such a joke. If it had been Cavendish getting 3 minutes after the limit on a MTF they would keep him aboard. There are rules to be followed but there's also common sense, something ASO or whoever make the call clearly don't have.
It's very easy to be hard with the weak (in this case, unknown riders) riders like King. I hope all the sprinters miss the time cut in the Alps and they throw away 50 riders at once. Also I want to see them throwing away every rider that hold on to cars in the climbs, regardless of who he is.
 
Aug 16, 2011
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It's an absolutely ridiculous decision, they also fined Tony Martin for having stripes on his bike! :mad:
 
Apr 28, 2011
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TANK91 said:
Thing is he as the Giro in his legs he wont be a factor at is age against these guys even without the Giro. He done great to get 3rd in the Giro but he looked strong early on getting bonus seconds in the Hilly first week and when the Mountains came he could not really respond and in the end he was a little lucky imo. I think we need to wait till AX-3 and the stage after that to really see where he is I predict him going backwards same as TJVG.

Evans would have reduced the loss today with Hushovd in the team. But obviously he calculated this cause I see an interview with him commenting this where he is saying the tour is more than one stage, so obviously he did not consider Hushovds team trial skills to be enough for bringing him to the tour. He prefered his guarding angels instead, so he probably thinks he will make up for the lost time today in other stages.

Jim Ochowicz on the other hand admitted they missed him on todays stage. According to this interview on norwegian tv2:
http://www.tv2.no/sport/sykkel/tdf/bmcsjefen-innroemmer-hushovd-ville-bidratt-i-dag-4082014.html
 
Wilba60 said:
OGE introduced Svein Tuft to the TdF roster so that it could have a red hot go at the TTT. He has been in both winning TTT teams for Orica at Eneco and Tirreno in 2012. There are 4 members of that Tirreno winning team here in Tuft, O'Grady, Goss and Meyer plus they some excellent additions in Lancaster, Impey, Gerrans, Clarke and Albasini.

With the momentum of winning their first ever TdF stage I think they will give the TTT a real shake.
Tuft gets a little bit of history with his performance in 3 winning OGE TTT's. No surprise to see the OGE boys take out the win. Now to see how long we can enjoy yellow. Will be interesting to see how Meyer and Tuft go in the ITT as well.
 
Sep 9, 2009
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trevim said:
This Ted King issue is such a joke. If it had been Cavendish getting 3 minutes after the limit on a MTF they would keep him aboard. There are rules to be followed but there's also common sense, something ASO or whoever make the call clearly don't have.
It's very easy to be hard with the weak (in this case, unknown riders) riders like King. I hope all the sprinters miss the time cut in the Alps and they throw away 50 riders at once. Also I want to see them throwing away every rider that hold on to cars in the climbs, regardless of who he is.
Nope, if it was Cav there would be 50 other people in the same group, and he'd be the only one to get any sort of punishment.

The Ted King situation is silly, but no need to go dragging others in to it.
 
Sep 8, 2009
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#lettedride

Dan Boozan ‏@dboozan 1h
If @iamtedking is not allowed to continue at @letour then everyone who supports Ted should not watch tomorrows stage.

:D

Lance Armstrong:
My prediction - my bud and all around good guy, @iamtedking will be starting tomorrow's stage.


seriously? poor maurice brocco sent home in 1911 now that was something ridiculous....not this

Le règlement c'est le règlement !!!
 
Waterloo Sunrise said:
Nope, if it was Cav there would be 50 other people in the same group, and he'd be the only one to get any sort of punishment.

The Ted King situation is silly, but no need to go dragging others in to it.
I'm not attacking Cav or anything, my point is that if some higher profile rider (like Cav) missed the time cut they would probably keep him aboard.
Anyway, now they have to keep on punishing like this.
 
jens_attacks said:
#lettedride

Dan Boozan ‏@dboozan 1h
If @iamtedking is not allowed to continue at @letour then everyone who supports Ted should not watch tomorrows stage.

:D

Lance Armstrong:
My prediction - my bud and all around good guy, @iamtedking will be starting tomorrow's stage.


seriously? poor maurice brocco sent home in 1911 now that was something ridiculous....not this

Le règlement c'est le règlement !!!
Now Armstrong just helped King make the bags and go :D
 

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