2013 Tour of Oman (11th-16th February), 2.HC

[Miburo]

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Anyway it's no use discussing with you people. We've to wait for the tour 2013 until you'll admit.

I wonder what excuse you'll use when Contador destroys the field at green mountain. Should be entertaining

Froome might be close today though.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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you know, Alberto won 7 GTs out of the 9 he started, if we don't ignore clinic issues then he won 5 out of 6 he started. That's magnificent. And I can't understand how someone can believe that a rider that hasn't shown anywhere he has what it takes to beat Alberto (he hasn't, he's never beaten Alberto) will crush a rider that's been known as a huge talent since he started cycling and has won many, many races since.

The only reason I can think of which would explain Froome crushing Alberto would be clinic related but that can't be the case otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.

 

[Publicus]

Why? Numbers are often deceptive. Rujano showed the same or a bit lesser wattage, but calling his climbing skills amazing is laughable.

Now you're just being silly. Rujano finished 12'12 behind Contador. While he was there on a couple of stages, it was ALWAYS clear that he wasn't on Contador's level.

 

[wheelie1977]

At first you were new so it's possible you didn't know but you just keep bringing up clinic stuff.

Anyway it's no use discussing with you people. We've to wait for the tour 2013 until you'll admit.

I wonder what excuse you'll use when Contador destroys the field at green mountain. Should be entertaining

Froome might be close today though.

"you people" - what is that ?!!

clinic stuff ? have i mentioned anything - i'm trying to be careful not to. but you can't talk about grand tour winners in the past 20 years and skirt the issue.

devisive as it may be, it's only opinion. relax my man.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Froome could have won the Vuelta easily, I think everyone would agree if the team leader had been Froome, then the win was going his way against a most definitely "inspired" Cobo. Spanish rider in Spain.

Froome could have ridden away from Wiggins and Nibali at any time in July. This is fact. He also lost over a minute in an earlier stage and lost time to the Olympic champion, pursuit champion and time trial god that is Wiggins.

okay. It's not "fact", we don't know it for sure.

I'm just wondering whether folks on here think that Contador can ride a Tour de France like he did back in 2010 now in 2013. France is not a kind place to Alberto.

what the hell does it mean "ride a tdf like he did back in 2010" indeed Frenchies hate Alberto but it gives him more strength to make the french cry.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Why? Numbers are often deceptive. Rujano showed the same or a bit lesser wattage, but calling his climbing skills amazing is laughable.

back onto the ignore list you go

 

[wirral]

Oh no, Nocentini crashes.

 

[Cyivel]

Putting " " around things doesn't mean you aren't bringing up clinic issues.

 

[wheelie1977]

you know, Alberto won 7 GTs out of the 9 he started, if we don't ignore clinic issues then he won 5 out of 6 he started. That's magnificent. And I can't understand how someone can believe that a rider that hasn't shown anywhere he has what it takes to beat Alberto (he hasn't, he's never beaten Alberto) will crush a rider that's been known as a huge talent since he started cycling and has won many, many races since.

The only reason I can think of which would explain Froome crushing Alberto would be clinic related but that can't be the case otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.

i think i referred to the potential of froome.

bernard hinault was the grand master too remember and then Lemond came along. bjaarne riis then ullrich. i would use the word crushed then too

history plays out. great champions beaten by potential brilliant newcomers.

that's all i'm arguing. Froome has the potential to be a very very good GT rider. Not that Contador isn't a great GT rider.

 

[cineteq]

Froome could have won the Vuelta easily, I think everyone would agree if the team leader had been Froome, then the win was going his way against a most definitely "inspired" Cobo. Spanish rider in Spain.

So if Cobo was 'inspired' then Froome was not?

Froome could have ridden away from Wiggins and Nibali at any time in July. This is fact.

You mean as he did in La Vuelta?

 

[Publicus]

There was a crash in the peloton involving Nocentini, but he's back on his bike apparently with no issues. Probably less than 40km to go.

 

[UncleTupelo]

Gap of the 5 leaders is still 3.25 with 43,5 km to go. Was a crash in the peloton, but all riders are back on their bikes #TOO13

from QPQS tweet

 

[LaFlorecita]

Oh no, Nocentini crashes.

oh crap, hope it isn't bad

 

[Cyivel]

oh crap, hope it isn't bad

He got back on so hopefully not

 

[LaFlorecita]

i think i referred to the potential of froome.

bernard hinault was the grand master too remember and then Lemond came along. bjaarne riis then ullrich. i would use the word crushed then too

history plays out. great champions beaten by potential brilliant newcomers.

that's all i'm arguing. Froome has the potential to be a very very good GT rider. Not that Contador isn't a great GT rider.

yea I rather listen to expert opinions

 

[wheelie1977]

okay. It's not "fact", we don't know it for sure.



what the hell does it mean "ride a tdf like he did back in 2010" indeed Frenchies hate Alberto but it gives him more strength to make the french cry.

only meant he was on fire in 2010. Never seen him that good before.

so was Schelck by the way.

 

[jens_attacks]

let's better "watch" the race shall we?

astana at the front!

vino just calling in the car, if nibali doesn't attack crazy from the bottom, no salary

"travaillez,travaillez!!".

just hope domenico won't get lost in some crosswinds

 

[wheelie1977]

seems like i'm taking on the whole forum with this

 

[jaylew]

So if Cobo was 'inspired' then Froome was not?

Of course not. He's not Spanish. At least we know where he stands now.

 

[Lanark]

Now you're just being silly. Rujano finished 12'12 behind Contador. While he was there on a couple of stages, it was ALWAYS clear that he wasn't on Contador's level.

He isn't being silly, those 3km that Contador reached 6.9 w/kg (highly unlikely, Ferrari overestimates wattages all the time), Rujano was in his wheel, so would reach more or less the same level. It just goes to show how little use it has to extrapolate from a small subsection of a single climb.

 

[airstream]

back onto the ignore list you go

Ah I dared to hurt the spoiled child's high feelings to Contador once again! It is useful for you. Don't worry.

 

[Euskaltel!]

Unless Froome is properly up for it and we get a beautiful taste of the Tour battles to come, I don't see how anyone can take Contador on this...

 

[airstream]

Now you're just being silly. Rujano finished 12'12 behind Contador. While he was there on a couple of stages, it was ALWAYS clear that he wasn't on Contador's level.

We were looking into the Etna stage separately.

 

[Cyivel]

2:55 for five rider breakaway as the pass the 25K left to race sign. #TOO13

 

[wheelie1977]

So if Cobo was 'inspired' then Froome was not?

You mean as he did in La Vuelta?

i already pointed to my distrust of spanish riders

I think you've answered your own question. Froome went from a Grand Tour to the olympics to the Vuelta. any wonder he wasn't able to ride away from them -hardly fresh? not as if Contador was riding away from anyone in the 2011 TDF after his exploits in the win at the Giro?