2014 Cleanest Peloton Ever

[Benotti69]

Cookson has got anti doping up and running like a well oiled machine unlike Hein/McQuaids dead donkey

@BaukeMollema:

Waiting to do my first UCI blood control of the year. Isn't that a bit late?

 

[sniper]

Cookson has got anti doping up and running like a well oiled machine unlike Hein/McQuaids dead donkey

don't you feel that fresh wind going through cycling at the moment?

“[Recently elected president] Brian Cookson is in now, and he wants a complete overhaul of the whole thing. And 99.9 per cent of the riders are on board, understand and are riding clean.

http://talksport.com/cycling/sir-br...lenging-doping-hypocrites#7cHEQLTovQAU7a78.99

 

[SundayRider]

Cookson has got anti doping up and running like a well oiled machine unlike Hein/McQuaids dead donkey

Couldn't possible dope with the passport in place

 

[Benotti69]

Couldn't possible dope with the passport in place

I think that is what Bauke is worried about

 

[the sceptic]

I notice that Andy Schleck is getting dropped on the flat now and losing 15 minutes to sprinters.

Reminds me of a certain brit in the 2011 tour of poland.

 

[Benotti69]

I notice that Andy Schleck is getting dropped on the flat now and losing 15 minutes to sprinters.

Reminds me of a certain brit in the 2011 tour of poland.

Andy joining the grupetto before returning to winning the TdF Sky styleeeee

 

[EnacheV]

I notice that Andy Schleck is getting dropped on the flat now and losing 15 minutes to sprinters.

Reminds me of a certain brit in the 2011 tour of poland.

Or about a certain italian in 2013 tour of poland ? maybe you are confused?

 

[the sceptic]

Or about a certain italian in 2013 tour of poland ? maybe you are confused?

Im not confused.

Losing 30 minutes to sprinters in a flat stage race is a credible performance. I dont believe Andy Schleck is dopings.

Thus, if he wins the tour this year we must believe him.

 

[BYOP88]

Im not confused.

Losing 30 minutes to sprinters in a flat stage race is a credible performance. I dont believe Andy Schleck is dopings.

Thus, if he wins the tour this year we must believe him.

I second the motion.

 

[Benotti69]

When it comes to doping, listen to a pro

Merckx : "cycling is as clean as it's ever been"

Eddy knows his stuff.

 

[BYOP88]

When it comes to doping, listen to a pro



Eddy knows his stuff.

If anyone else had said that I would've laughed my *** off, but because Eddy said it 'I believe!!!'

Well may as well shut the clinic down now we are in the age of cleanER cycling, my fellow clinic dudes it was nice knowing you.

 

[the sceptic]

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily

#MSR, Average speed:
2005 40.87 Kph
2006 45.27
2007 43.67
2008 41.14
2009 44.42
2010 42.83
2011 43.49
2012 42.63
2013 43.75
2014 42.41

cleanest peloton ever

 

[thehog]

cleanest peloton ever

Considering the route changes, weather, it would be hard to draw a line through aversge speed alone.

Especially whereby there is 2-3km between the years.

It is fast though for 300km. What happened to the days of spending the first 100km parla piano?

 

[DirtyWorks]

cleanest peloton ever

I'm not saying there weren't chargers in the field because history plainly supports that possibility.

These one-day events with changing courses are the worst events to try estimating doping. Between changing courses and general conditions it is very difficult to estimate anything.

Stage races for the little bit of the 2014 season have had interesting results. There were things I never expected. That's for sure! Even when doping, competitive cycling surprises.

 

[the sceptic]

Considering the route changes, weather it would be hard to draw a line through aversge speed alone.

Especially whereby there is 2-3km between the years.

It is fast though for 300km. What happened to the days of spending hr first 100km parla piano?

Good point Hog. There are too many variables and its far from an easy verifiable fact.

But on the surface, it doesnt appear to be any downwards trend as one would expect in a peloton that is cleaning up.

 

[Race Radio]

For years the fastest time up the Poggio was right around 6:50-7:00, then suddenly in the early 90's it dropped to low 6:00 ....then 5:45 in 1994. ....Furlan/Gewiss/Ferrari, like a motorbike

Today it was 6:50. Last year was 6:48. Given the crazy weather last year and this year it could be just be an anomaly......especially as 07.08,09,10 were all super fast, @ 6:00

 

[manafana]

For years the fastest time up the Poggio was right around 6:50-7:00, then suddenly in the early 90's it dropped to low 6:00 ....then 5:45 in 1994. ....Furlan/Gewiss/Ferrari, like a motorbike

Today it was 6:50. Last year was 6:48. Given the crazy weather last year and this year it could be just be an anomaly......especially as 07.08,09,10 were all super fast, @ 6:00

5.45 in 94 thats just insane, that they can't match it today by even going under 6mins shows a lot bikes and tech are way better than 20 years ago so some improvements are expected, kind of like those east german swimming records no one could ever break

 

[jens_attacks]

it wasn't in 1994. it was in 1995 jaja and fondriest. furlan did 6:01

the wind and the weather are huge factors

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/03/low-speeds-in-another-cold-edition-of.html

this is one of the most brutal though, cipressa 1996:

1996:5,7 km@4,1%---9:19---average speed 36.71 km/h(Colombo-Gontchenkov)

 

[King Boonen]

Can you refresh my memory on what JV's role was there? And where it was discussed / publicised?

I'd like to know this too. And details Hog?

 

[sniper]

This story keeps getting better & better
http://www.elcolombiano.com/BancoCo...go_paranoico/henao_esto_es_algo_paranoico.asp

hilarious:

Question: ¿No le parece extraño todo esto?
Henao: "Por supuesto. Soy miembro de una generación limpia."

Quesion: Don't you think this is all weird?
Henao: "Of course, I am a member of a clean generation".

 

[Race Radio]

it wasn't in 1994. it was in 1995 jaja and fondriest. furlan did 6:01

the wind and the weather are huge factors

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/03/low-speeds-in-another-cold-edition-of.html

this is one of the most brutal though, cipressa 1996:

1996:5,7 km@4,1%---9:19---average speed 36.71 km/h(Colombo-Gontchenkov)

Sorry, but that is not correct. Furlan went 5:45 in 1994. It was well reported and discussed in Italy at the time. Even his coach remembers it

http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=92

I have heard many numbers for Jaja, 6:01, 5:46, and 5:41. The general consensus in Italy is the record is Furlan's 5:45

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=rivista&cmd=artdet&id=3075

 

[Benotti69]

hilarious:

Quesion: Don't you think this is all weird?
Henao: "Of course, I am a member of a clean generation".

Does the 'clean generation' have a little club badge?

What a joke!

 

[BYOP88]

Does the 'clean generation' have a little club badge?

What a joke!

Yes, it also acts as a cover to hide the track marks.

 

[Netserk]

Sorry, but that is not correct. Furlan went 5:45 in 1994. It was well reported and discussed in Italy at the time. Even his coach remembers it

http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=92

Do you also believe they did it in 5'55 in 2008 and that was the second fastest time ever? Otherwise your source is invalid. It's no surprise that Ferrari spouts a lot of BS.

notwithstanding the good pace on the Cipressa (climbed in 10'10") and especially on the Poggio (5'55", second best time ever, after Giorgio Furlan's 5'45" in 94)

 

[jens_attacks]

Sorry, but that is not correct. Furlan went 5:45 in 1994. It was well reported and discussed in Italy at the time. Even his coach remembers it

http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=92

I have heard many numbers for Jaja, 6:01, 5:46, and 5:41. The general consensus in Italy is the record is Furlan's 5:45

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=rivista&cmd=artdet&id=3075

the general consensus was also that bugno and co climbed alpe in 1991 below 40 minutes.
that wasn't the case either.

ferrari as a source lol multiple mistakes on his all recorded ascent times.crrap of a job.
trust him on hematology not climbing records. everyone with his job.

me i don't have any sources like you because myself, i am the source. i timed it myself and verified at least 5 times. 5:45 would mean that furlan was the last of the peloton when poggio began (when i started the clock) which wasn't the case. gewiss was at the front with mercatone,mg and others.

gewiss 1994 is recognized enough. let's not give them records that don't belong to them. they have enough.