2014 Cleanest Peloton Ever

[42x16ss]

If you watch the replay, look at all the flags. It seems as though the riders were pushing into a northerly for most of the race

 

[Bronstein]

It's good to see Rebellin being ostracised by the new generation:

"Many young riders come to me for advice, they tell me I’m their idol, even colleagues" (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rebellin-returns-to-amstel-gold-race-with-a-plan-to-win).

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 14 min
#AGR2014, Cauberg (770 m). Philippe Gilbert: 1 min 23 sec (new record) | prov

Sounds squeaky clean

 

[roundabout]

Feels like 2011 all over again

 

[Lanark]

Joke sport.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 14 min
#AGR2014, Cauberg (770 m). Philippe Gilbert: 1 min 23 sec (new record) | prov

Sounds squeaky clean

Good to see Peiper can motivate Gilbert with a bit of pep talk.

 

[Hugh Januss]

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 14 min
#AGR2014, Cauberg (770 m). Philippe Gilbert: 1 min 23 sec (new record) | prov

Sounds squeaky clean

Good to see Peiper can motivate Gilbert with a bit of pep talk.

Tailwind.........

 

[Kwibus]

Joke sport.

Stop watching it.

 

[Race Radio]

There was certainly a tailwind on the final climb.....but was that Freddy Vienne greeting Gilbert at the finish line?

 

[Pentacycle]

There was certainly a tailwind on the final climb.....but was that Freddy Vienne greeting Gilbert at the finish line?

Yes, if he's the guy with the steep hair. Viaene certainly knows how to fine-tune Phil.

 

[The Hitch]

Isn't this course more conducive to records though in that they come in off the descent without the turn, or was just that 2012.

Then again there is 2k at the end so you need to save yourself a bit.

Either way Gilbert already possessed the record I think even the top 2 times. I even remember they were slower when they did the easier run in in 2012 than Gilbert when he did the harder run in in 2010 and 2011.

Full *** on mur? I think goes more like 2010 and 12, maybe top 5. Then again that's what everyone thought in 11 and then he set the hill record.

Gilbert dodgy as **** though. His records in 2011 while working with taus, cleans, forgetaboutit.

 

[red_flanders]

There was certainly a tailwind on the final climb.....but was that Freddy Vienne greeting Gilbert at the finish line?

4mph. I hope no one is suggesting that has any meaningful relevance to his time.

Not that I think the time matters much on so short a climb, other than to say it was really, really fast.

 

[Pentacycle]

Tailwind is the key word, just like on the Ventoux.

 

[The Hitch]

4mph. I hope no one is suggesting that has any meaningful relevance to his time.

Not that I think the time matters much on so short a climb, other than to say it was really, really fast.

Matters maybe more on short climbs imo since there's less tactics and more everyone going all out.

Also particularly a climb like the cauberg it matters because they climb it every year so there's a bigger sample, and bigger samples even out the other variables.

Anyone who beats the entire sample on a climb that was raced fully every year since 2003, and includes winners like Rebellin, di Luca, fraenk etc is at the least, pushing it really close to what should be possible for a human without drugs.

 

[the sceptic]

Tailwind is the key word, just like on the Ventoux.

Horner was faster.

 

[dlwssonic]

well... I guess samus big attack at the bottom of the climb certainly contributed to the fast time and I don't think Gilbert leaves much in reserve on the climb anyway, he has to get as big a gap as possible

 

[happychappy]

Horner was faster.

Horner is always faster.

 

[red_flanders]

Isn't this course more conducive to records though in that they come in off the descent without the turn, or was just that 2012.

Then again there is 2k at the end so you need to save yourself a bit.

Either way Gilbert already possessed the record I think even the top 2 times. I even remember they were slower when they did the easier run in in 2012 than Gilbert when he did the harder run in in 2010 and 2011.

Full *** on mur? I think goes more like 2010 and 12, maybe top 5. Then again that's what everyone thought in 11 and then he set the hill record.

Gilbert dodgy as **** though. His records in 2011 while working with taus, cleans, forgetaboutit.

When it finished at the top, typically you'd see the winner back off at the end for jersey adjustment, the lookback, and the salute. Probably shaves 1 or 2 seconds at the most. Today he was powering straight through.

Light tailwind in 2011 as well. Not a factor IMO.

Very fast time today. Not sure what it means other than...not a good piece of evidence that things are cleaning up.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

4mph. I hope no one is suggesting that has any meaningful relevance to his time.

Not that I think the time matters much on so short a climb, other than to say it was really, really fast.

We will start to need wind readings on climbs like 100m and 200m sprinters on the track.

FWIW, a legal wind of 2.0 m/s is about 4.5 mph...

 

[Ripper]

There was certainly a tailwind on the final climb.....but was that Freddy Vienne greeting Gilbert at the finish line?

Who is Vienna?

 

[Ripper]

We will start to need wind readings on climbs like 100m and 200m sprinters on the track.

FWIW, a legal wind of 2.0 m/s is about 4.5 mph...

I think I saw a wind meter reading 7+ m/s.

 

[the sceptic]

New record on mur de huy. Good to see the new clean generation is faster than the old doping generation.

 

[The Hitch]

New record on mur de huy. Good to see the new clean generation is faster than the old doping generation.

New record? What was it, 2. 43?

 

[Afrank]

Yeah definitely. The young clean guys are definitely showing races can be won clean now...wait a moment (checks results)...never mind.

 

[the sceptic]

New record? What was it, 2. 43?

Around 2:41 I think but I might have been off by a few seconds.

Vettoo will get the time up soon probably.