2014 Giro D'Italia, stage 1: Belfast › Belfast, 21.7 km (TTT)

[Afrank]

That was a crap example. Yes a TTT is also a team event, but that doesn't change the fact that both running and cycling are not team sports. They are both individual sports.

It's a port that, with the exception of the TTT, has individual winners. But a lot of effort is made by other individuals to get that one individual to win.

 

[Rollthedice]

Cannondale is doing a Katusha.

 

[T-Nielsen]

I am starting to think Colombia did quite well on that hill even though they looked a bit of a mess.

 

[saneguy]

half the broadcasting on Eurosport is commercials, wtf

Yeah far too many commercials. Sucks totally

 

[the sceptic]

sorry to post of topic..

Cannondale almost last

 

[GuyIncognito]

Please,say you werent serious

I sincerely hope people like Rolland or Aru go on the attack in the mountains

 

[ILovecycling]

omg Cannondale is so slow

 

[Netserk]

So, in a football team no team staff has ever won anything, only players and head coach?

In football the club wins the CL. AFAIK there are more to a club than players and coach.

In cycling an individual wins the Tour. Sure that individual is on a team. Just like Stephen Kiprotich is on a team. Still an individual sport.

 

[The Hitch]

Only coach and those registered in the match sheet as 'assistants'. Champions league for example demands a maximum of 3.


Plus many countries (England for example) demand a minimum games played in to get a medal.
Won the premiership, played 9 games? No medal for you.

Yeah. And your point is?

When you go 100% it doesn't matter if it's 0 or 25% gradient. Fact.

Thank you, for being you.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Will Hatch correctly identify a Lampre rider before they finish ?

 

[GuyIncognito]

Yeah. And your point is?

That according to your own argument (cycling isn't a team sport because others don't get medals) football isn't a team sport. You can play a bunch of games and be decisive in the outcome, yet no prize.

 

[luckyboy]

cmon Rob Hatch, Cunego is number 100

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

That according to your own argument (cycling isn't a team sport because others don't get medals) football isn't a team sport. You can play a bunch of games and be decisive in the outcome, yet no prize.

wondering. Do you say: Messi, Iniesta, Valdes, Pique, etc etc. win or Barcelona win?
Do you say: Froome won, or Sky won the tour?

 

[ILovecycling]

I sincerely hope people like Rolland or Aru go on the attack in the mountains

Yeah,me too,but Nairo will attack even in Maglia Rosa like Contador,that was my point

 

[saneguy]

Would be interesting to see what BMC does. Evans also has a good chance to put time into JRod.

Big loss for Purito today. Would also be interesting to see how much this loss of time costs JRod throughout the tour.

 

[GuyIncognito]

wondering. Do you say: Messi, Iniesta, Valdes, Pique, etc etc. win or Barcelona win?
Do you say: Froome won, or Sky won the tour?

I don't say any of those because they all make me sick

 

[The Hitch]

It's a port that, with the exception of the TTT, has individual winners. But a lot of effort is made by other individuals to get that one individual to win.

Yes, but on any other stage a rider can still work himself to limit his losses. Can still slipstream their rivals, work with them.

In a ttt there is absolutely nothing a rider can do. They straight up lose time to their rivals, significant time, through no fault of their own.

And the individual classification, registers that as if it were their individual effort.

Its ridiculous. It would be like giving sprinters a head start in the 100m final, based on how fast their country did in the relay.

 

[Afrank]

Damn, missed where lampre placed, what was their time?

 

[GuyIncognito]

Yeah,me too,but Nairo will attack even in Maglia Rosa like Contador,that was my point

I dearly hope so

 

[Netserk]

It's a port that, with the exception of the TTT, has individual winners. But a lot of effort is made by other individuals to get that one individual to win.

And most who win marathons also have people helping them. Still individual sport.

 

[BigMac]

Damn, missed where lampre placed, what was their time?

between 5th and 7th not sure.

 

[luckyboy]

Damn, missed where lampre placed, what was their time?

26:02 blablaaabla

 

[Jspear]

Ok I'll settle it all forever. It's both a team sport and a single rider sport.

 

[Afrank]

Yes, but on any other stage a rider can still work himself to limit his losses. Can still slipstream their rivals, work with them.

In a ttt there is absolutely nothing a rider can do. They straight up lose time to their rivals, significant time, through no fault of their own.

And the individual classification, registers that as if it were their individual effort.

Its ridiculous. It would be like giving sprinters a head start in the 100m final, based on how fast their country did in the relay.

Yes, I agree with you. My comment was on team sport vs. individual sport though.

 

[The Hitch]

That according to your own argument (cycling isn't a team sport because others don't get medals) football isn't a team sport. You can play a bunch of games and be decisive in the outcome, yet no prize.

Football is a team sport.

The team gets their name on the trophy, and in the record books, the team gets the trophy, and everyone on the team gets medals.

In cycling, all of the above go to an individual, and the riders on the team that allegedly helped him, rely on his good will, getting 0 official recognition.