2014 Giro d'Italia, Stage 15: Valdengo-Plan Di Montecampione (225 km)

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Nov 26, 2012
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Uran and Evans are clearly weaker?

data doesn't seem to agree with tht. Uran is still wearing pink, and has a healthy advantage to others. Evans is still second. he lost sometime as expected in the MTFs.

these two riders can afford to lose some time in this stage.

in the top-10, poels was anyway expected to drop today. Aru and Quinatana were in the move, and their positions changed.
 
Jun 15, 2009
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murali said:
Also, the new mantra is "40s is the new 20s".

Who said that? Did the physics of mankind change? Did I miss something?....
I prefer the most likely and obvious... thus it´s great when young riders win, as it was until the 1990s...
 
May 11, 2013
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Ruby United said:
No, because he is 37 and in the top few of every gt he races in. Who was the last person to be 2nd in a gt with 5 stages remaining at 37 or above years???

Chris Horner?
 
Jan 27, 2012
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Ruby United said:
No, because he is 37 and in the top few of every gt he races in. Who was the last person to be 2nd in a gt with 5 stages remaining at 37 or above years???

Well Horner won the Vuelta at 50 or so
 
Mar 9, 2013
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Ruby United said:
No, because he is 37 and in the top few of every gt he races in. Who was the last person to be 2nd in a gt with 5 stages remaining at 37 or above years???


Exactly Evans is well underrated he also was like this last year people look at Horner and think that is the norm, well it's not. It is rare for a rider to win a GT at 34 for cying out loud.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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Ruby United said:
No, because he is 37 and in the top few of every gt he races in. Who was the last person to be 2nd in a gt with 5 stages remaining at 37 or above years???

The very last GT ridden, he was actually 5 years older and eventually won it.
Oops:rolleyes:
 
Jan 26, 2012
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Last 2 days only (favourites):

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Quintana +18
Majka +56
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Pozzovivo +1.23
Evans +1.29
 
Jun 15, 2009
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Ruby United said:
No, because he is 37 and in the top few of every gt he races in. Who was the last person to be 2nd in a gt with 5 stages remaining at 37 or above years???

Only remember one bald man on one leg... The guy who made cycling the joke of all sports... Oh well, I think he was leading.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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Ruby United said:
Have to disagree.

In cannodale sagans the boss and for Movistar nairito is in gts just he wanted to go for the Giro.

Basso is all about PR, a bit like Voigt. But both are coming to an end racing wise.

Valverde is still the boss on Movistar also in GTs.
 
May 26, 2009
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murali said:
Uran and Evans are clearly weaker?

data doesn't seem to agree with tht. Uran is still wearing pink, and has a healthy advantage to others. Evans is still second. he lost sometime as expected in the MTFs.

these two riders can afford to lose some time in this stage.

in the top-10, poels was anyway expected to drop today. Aru and Quinatana were in the move, and their positions changed.

Evans is pretty clearly weaker. He will not be in the top 5 for many more stages.
 
Mar 9, 2013
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Who said that? Did the physics of mankind change? Did I miss something?....
I prefer the most likely and obvious... thus it´s great when young riders win, as it was until the 1990s...

Your posts on Evans haave been absoloute embarassing all Giro dude. What has Evans ever done to you. As you are German or that is were your location is i assume you were a fan of Kloeden and Ullrich?. Well they really put on a huge show in the mountains did'nt they?:rolleyes:.

I love all different climbers it is why i like Basso's style as it is nice to watch a diesel climber imo just like Jan Ullrich turning a big gear i use to love watching Ullrich. You say you like young riders comming through?. Well who are your fav cyclists i suppose if your fav is 37 you will just drop him and say hope he loses to young rider:rolleyes:.
 
Jan 3, 2012
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murali said:
Uran and Evans are clearly weaker?

data doesn't seem to agree with tht. Uran is still wearing pink, and has a healthy advantage to others. Evans is still second. he lost sometime as expected in the MTFs.

these two riders can afford to lose some time in this stage.

in the top-10, poels was anyway expected to drop today. Aru and Quinatana were in the move, and their positions changed.

I said they're weaker on the climbs which is true. They have both only lost time since the tt, where the proper climbing began
 
Jan 3, 2012
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Red Rick said:
The very last GT ridden, he was actually 5 years older and eventually won it.
Oops:rolleyes:

Haha. :eek: :eek:

But my point still stands.

(And I believe evans is clean unlike........... )
 
Mar 9, 2013
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Red Rick said:
The very last GT ridden, he was actually 5 years older and eventually won it.
Oops:rolleyes:

Such a weak response. Horner is the norm isn't he:rolleyes:. You do no he beat the record by not a few months or a year he smashed it by 5 years plus.
 
Jun 7, 2011
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I am really curious as to how all the GC boys perform on the mountain TT, I seen someone saying Uran is limiting his losses until then, but surely this TT will be completely different to the other one. Wouldn't the likes of Pozzovivo and Quintana be looking forwards to it more?

How do yous see it going with regards to time differences??
 
Jun 15, 2009
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TANK91 said:
What has Evans ever done to you.

His wheelsucking, and connections in the old Era. Yet he is celebrated. Don´t like double standards. Sorry, I can´t stand this guy. That´s all.... wait, I also don´t like to watch jokes that get to far out of hand; like when grandpas start winning GTS. That is not normal, never was, not even in the darkest era...
Yes, I was fan of Ullrich when young and naive. But that´s a different story.
 
Jan 3, 2012
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Dazed and Confused said:
Basso is all about PR, a bit like Voigt. But both are coming to an end racing wise.

Valverde is still the boss on Movistar also in GTs.

No. I think that by the end of the Giro nairito will be... perhaps even now, if he had asked to target the tour I think Movistar would've rated him above valverde
 
Jun 14, 2010
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BigMac said:
He's an anglo. Nothing one can do against the spaniard and italian fanboy mafia here.

Are you sportzchick, are you sportzchick, are you sportzchick in disguise!!!!

Are you sportzchick in disguise?!!!!

Seriously, your comment is so similar to some of the ones I linked from the 2010 Giro

sportzchick said:
and if the roles were reversed we would of had a hanging by now
sportzchick said:
Basso got 2nd so im sure everyone is happy :rolleyes:
auscyclefan94 said:
people purposefully hate riders because they need someone to bash so they can look like experts and it comforts there ego. Evans is an easy target which makes the bashers very cowardly and sad as it just gets old.


Cadel is in my opinion the best cycling ambassador of this century until now.
lol. Do tell:D
 
Jul 4, 2011
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
His wheelsucking, and connections in the old Era. Yet he is celebrated. Don´t like double standards. Sorry, I can´t stand this guy. That´s all.... wait, I also don´t like to watch jokes that get to far out of hand; like when grandpas start winning GTS. That is not normal, never was, not even in the darkest era...
Yes, I was fan of Ullrich when young and naive. But that´s a different story.

That is one of the most pathetic posts I have ever had the misfortune of reading. :mad:
 
Oct 16, 2009
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ILovecycling said:
He doesnt have a punch its only upping a pace a bit,and he was toying with them (but he wasnt as good as Aru tho;))
Quintana wasn't toying with anyone.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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Ruby United said:
No. I think that by the end of the Giro nairito will be... perhaps even now, if he had asked to target the tour I think Movistar would've rated him above valverde

Maybe if Quintana wins the Giro and Valverde gets nothing out of the Tour/Vuelta this year. But to think Quintana calls the shots at Movistar today is very naive.

Sort of first lesson free type stuff.
 
Apr 16, 2009
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Poursuivant said:
I am really curious as to how all the GC boys perform on the mountain TT, I seen someone saying Uran is limiting his losses until then, but surely this TT will be completely different to the other one. Wouldn't the likes of Pozzovivo and Quintana be looking forwards to it more?

How do yous see it going with regards to time differences??

Uran has performed very good in the past in the mountain TT. I think it was in 2010 in Plan de Corones when he was 23 years old.

1.Stefano Garzelli (Acqua & Sapone) 41min 28sec. 18.665 km/hr
2.Cadel Evans (BMC) @ 42sec
3.John Gadret (Ag2r) @ 54sec
4.Vincenzo Nibali (Liquigas) @ 1min 1sec
5.Michele Scarponi (Androni Giocatolli) @ 1min 7sec
6.Ivan Basso (Liquigas) @ 1min 10sec
7.Rigoberto Uran (Caisse d'Epargne) @ 1min 36sec