El Pistolero said:I guess you'll have to wait for a British rider to do well in LBL then.
But hey, I've never been to Yorkshire, so can't comment about that particular subject.
For another rider Millar was 3rd in 1988.
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El Pistolero said:I guess you'll have to wait for a British rider to do well in LBL then.
But hey, I've never been to Yorkshire, so can't comment about that particular subject.
will10 said:Cycling in Nottingham is actually an oxymoron.
El Pistolero said:That was hardly their real reason, more like maintaining the status quo on Continental Europe.
It would be much better to run the race along these battlefields. The main burial place here for soldiers of WWI in Belgium is in fact British territory and it's a beautiful area to pass by.
I wouldn't mind the Tour starting in Verdun by the way, Belgium already had a Tour start this year. They can do a quick detour to Ypres though.
You need a symbol and Yorkshire just isn't a symbol for WWI.
del1962 said:If you want to do an anniverssary tour 2018 would be a better option, though individually Verdun would be 2016 and Ypres 2017.
If yoyu wanted to start an WWI aniversary in 2014 you would start in Sarajevo (don't think they put a bid in though )
El Pistolero said:That was hardly their real reason, more like maintaining the status quo on Continental Europe.
It would be much better to run the race along these battlefields. The main burial place here for soldiers of WWI in Belgium is in fact British territory and it's a beautiful area to pass by.
I wouldn't mind the Tour starting in Verdun by the way, Belgium already had a Tour start this year. They can do a quick detour to Ypres though.
You need a symbol and Yorkshire just isn't a symbol for WWI.
Tom375 said:Boycott's a bit befuddled about the TDF starting in Yorkshire.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20734523
wilts rover said:Oh really, you do show your lack of knowledge of British history then. Even ignoring the fact that half the British Army is stationed in Catterick (its in North Yorkshire to save you looking) in December 1914 German warships attacked Scarborough killing 19 people, thus becoming the first civilian casualties of WWI in Britain.
In WWI and WWII (even more so in the Spanish Civil War of course) civilians, non-combatants became direct 'legitimate targets outside the battefield' in war for the first time. And these were the first. How much more symbolic would you like?
Frosty said:And a breakaway merchant (Voeckler?) could shoot an Ostrich? (from Blackadder, TV series)
The only thing that stands out about world war one in 1914 for me is the xmas day armistice and that is something that i dont really want to see paid too much tribute to!
Its a serious subject though and one that i think that the tour organisation will deservedly be looking to commemorate in this and the next few tours.
wilts rover said:Oh really, you do show your lack of knowledge of British history then. Even ignoring the fact that half the British Army is stationed in Catterick (its in North Yorkshire to save you looking) in December 1914 German warships attacked Scarborough killing 19 people, thus becoming the first civilian casualties of WWI in Britain.
In WWI and WWII (even more so in the Spanish Civil War of course) civilians, non-combatants became direct 'legitimate targets outside the battefield' in war for the first time. And these were the first. How much more symbolic would you like?
LugHugger said:Uh huh, OK. That's why there are groups going north , south, east and west every day if you want to ride. I've never ridden anywhere in the UK more immersed in biking. Guess we can thank Raleigh for that.
Didn't really work lat time did it?Pricey_sky said:Living here in England im obviously delighted I can go and drive 3 hours up the road and see 2 stages of the Tour. My girlfriend loves it up there aswel so we will probably go up for a few days break.
Won't bother with the London stage, they will probably make it pan flat to get Cav a win infront of huge crowds in the capital.
Tom375 said:Didn't really work lat time did it?
Bavarianrider said:Seriously, why the heck is the Tour starting in one of Europe's most waterdown trashyards?
roundabout said:It's not a trash yard, but at the same time it can be a bit bleak.
Wonder how it will look like on TV?
Libertine Seguros said:Hopefully the Sheffield stage can finish off a bit like the old ToB stages to the city:
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So let's stop going to Roubaix thenArnout said:Liege? You serious? That's the crappiest city in continental Europe bar Charleroi (and yes I've been in both).
sbbefc said:On the tops of moors in the winter yes, but so can anywhere, there's lots of great and beautiful places in Yorkshire, especially the Dales.
Leeds is has a nice city centre with an abundance in listed buildings and York is one of the most interesting historic cities in England.
The tour gets Alpine climbs and the plains every year, this is a bit different and will provide more interesting racing than the likes of Belgium.
Parrulo said:lolwut? you do realize belgium has been providing some of the best racing in the history of cycling for over 100 years don't you?