People have fish memory here.LaFlorecita said:We are talking about a guy who finished 20 minutes down on every mountain instead of being up there to help his team leader in 2011. If he beats said team leader now...![]()
People have fish memory here.LaFlorecita said:We are talking about a guy who finished 20 minutes down on every mountain instead of being up there to help his team leader in 2011. If he beats said team leader now...![]()
Contador also needed the massive gradients on Etna...Red Rick said:I've look at the profiles, and Chamrousse is not suited for a short range attack. The first half is by far the hardes, averageing like 8,5-9%. After that, 5,5 and 6,5% gradients kick in and it might be impossible to ride away.
Carols said:If Lil Richie aka underdawg drops either Nibali or Contador I think I'll puke on my computer!
cineteq said:People have fish memory here.
Netserk said:Contador also needed the massive gradients on Etna...
cineteq said:People have super selective memory here.
LaFlorecita said:To be fair I think Nibali has improved massively since. Will be harder to drop him.
I was talking about the other people, not you!LaFlorecita said:Eh? Do me a favor and find me one mountain stage with an uphill finish at the 2011 Giro or Tour in which he didn't lose at least 10 minutes. I've had a quick look and saw he finished 40 minutes down at one point![]()
cineteq said:I was talking about the other people, not you!Those people forgot quickily who was Porte in 2011.
LaFlorecita said:Eh? Do me a favor and find me one mountain stage with an uphill finish at the 2011 Giro or Tour in which he didn't lose at least 10 minutes. I've had a quick look and saw he finished 40 minutes down at one point![]()
Red Rick said:I thought for sure that he didn't lose that much on Montevergine, then I went ahead and checked and he lost 15 minutes![]()
Netserk said:It wasn't about Nibali, but on what gradient Contador can attack (in a headwind and get away).
LaFlorecita said:We are talking about a guy who finished 20 minutes down on every mountain instead of being up there to help his team leader in 2011. If he beats said team leader now...![]()
Bushman said:Despite the fact that Porte has an awful Giro in '11 he has shown his stage racing talent ever since he turned pro. I wouldn't be surprised if he is fighting for 3rd this year.
classicomano said:Porte will put at least a minute on the rest of the field.
whittashau said:So most think that Porte will out climb Nibali this Tour?
LaFlorecita said:We are talking about a guy who finished 20 minutes down on every mountain instead of being up there to help his team leader in 2011. If he beats said team leader now...![]()