Landa is at Contador - Porte level and Cataldo is not far behind. I'm surprised, to say the least.
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maltiv said:Contador looked like he was suffering like a dog.
His rivals will regret missing this opportunity.
LaFlorecita said:FWIW there were plenty of people who said they had had a shoulder dislocation and had issues for weeks, massive pain etc and couldn't move arm, so there is clearly a big difference between individual cases.Maaaaaaaarten said:Nice win by Beñat!
By the way; let's now finally agree that dislocated joints are usually not very serious - like everybody who has experience with them has been saying all the time already - and Contador is more or less fine so we can stop making a drama about his shoulder........
Hugo Koblet said:[...] Aru will probably be the one attacking first but in the end Contador will be the one taking time on Aru and Porte.
Netserk said:Wouldn't he be 2nd, behind Contador but with the same time?LaFlorecita said:Yepwinkybiker said:So if Landa had sat up and let Artu take 3rd, would Aru be pink jersey?
Well, they mostly paced him. I don't think Sky should've chased after Landa. It's important to force Contador to chase. Then if they all stand still, they can trade attacks.JRanton said:maltiv said:Contador looked like he was suffering like a dog.
His rivals will regret missing this opportunity.
They tried to attack and Contador responded. Not sure what else they were supposed to do?
Hmmm I would think they would decide a leader on positions in previous stages?Netserk said:Wouldn't he be 2nd, behind Contador but with the same time?LaFlorecita said:Yepwinkybiker said:So if Landa had sat up and let Artu take 3rd, would Aru be pink jersey?
sir fly said:Astana has huge advantage in numbers, but couldn't utilize it fully today.
Sky really lacks a sense for racing. Should Richie has been little less enthusiastic and if Astana has lined its numbers differently - they all could have gained some time on Contador.
LaFlorecita said:FWIW there were plenty of people who said they had had a shoulder dislocation and had issues for weeks, massive pain etc and couldn't move arm, so there is clearly a big difference between individual cases.
Bonus seconds are 10-6-4, not 20-12-8 like a few years agowinkybiker said:Netserk said:Wouldn't he be 2nd, behind Contador but with the same time?LaFlorecita said:Yepwinkybiker said:So if Landa had sat up and let Artu take 3rd, would Aru be pink jersey?
My understanding is that Aru would have picked up 8 seconds for third, putting him in the lead by 4 seconds.
It's 10-6-4, not 20-12-8.winkybiker said:Netserk said:Wouldn't he be 2nd, behind Contador but with the same time?LaFlorecita said:Yepwinkybiker said:So if Landa had sat up and let Artu take 3rd, would Aru be pink jersey?
My understanding is that Aru would have picked up 8 seconds for third, putting him in the lead by 4 seconds.
The Hitch said:I don't know. 2010 Tour for example first stage mountain stage to Morzine was really really hard, and raced hard, to the point that Armstrong lost 10 minutes. But 10 gc riders managed to finish together.Pricey_sky said:Yet again more proof that there is little between the 3 favourites.
The next day 2 finished together, the 3rd finished 1.20, 3 more gc riders finished around 2.30, a fewmore at 3.30, the yellow jersey lost 10 minutes, you never know, and this wasn't even that hard a stage.
I agree with you, no additional damage was mentioned and if that was the case I doubt he would still be riding, so it was obviously not terrible. But he still performed very well IMO as you could see he wasn't 100% this is the worst Contador we're going to see this Giro and Aru and porte could not get rid of him despite tryingMaaaaaaaarten said:LaFlorecita said:FWIW there were plenty of people who said they had had a shoulder dislocation and had issues for weeks, massive pain etc and couldn't move arm, so there is clearly a big difference between individual cases.
True but you could see Contador dancing on the bike and his his shoulder already multiple times, so clearly it wasn't that bad.
I also have a friend who got a dislocated shoulder and needed serious painkillers a few days after and couldn't really use his shoulder for a couple of weeks. But he actually damaged some stuff and his shoulder because of the dislocation and that was also the diagnosis of the doctor. If Contador had said 'I dislocated my shoulder and I damaged a ligament' or something, I would've been inclined to take it more seriously.
But anyway, for whatever doubt remained, it was good to see Contador is indeed not hurt too bad and we still have a nice three way battle in the Giro.
(Although, to be honest, I still don't believe Porte can be consistent for three weeks. So I suspect it will be just between Aru and Contador)
Alexandre B. said:Landa is at Contador - Porte level and Cataldo is not far behind. I'm surprised, to say the least.
Taxus4a said:Very special day for me becouse I treated a lot with Intxausti in Vuelta 2010, Landa is almost a friend, Rigo is the rider I have follow more since he started, and I am happy as well to see Contador with any problem. Amador as well is a friend of a friend, so... what can I say:
W IL GIRO.
Thank you riders for this day
I would like to explain why Landa did that, but I cant. Maybe the future will talk. Anyway he will lose a lot in the ITT, he is not good in the plain at all.
Rollthedice said:Alexandre B. said:Landa is at Contador - Porte level and Cataldo is not far behind. I'm surprised, to say the least.
I would say the other way around. Contador has to step up his game if he wants to have a chance with Froome, Nibs and Nairito.