2015 National Championships Discussion

[Jonhard]

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I've a feeling Luke Rowe could be the man this year... he's going well and never really gets a shot with Sky (unlike Stannard, Kennaugh or Swift). Throw him a bone.

The sooner NFTO or some other team step up to pro-conti and strengthen their squad the better for the British nationals. This internal team championships stuff is worse than Spain. At least Caja Rural have some sort of chance there.

Tend to agree with that. I don't know how pre-determined it is mind you - Swift and Kennaugh duked it out in the final last year fairly convincingly.

 

[Pricey_sky]

For the British nationals it will be interesting to see how the Orica trio get on against the Sky riders, can't see many others being involved.

Just in case anyone wondered it's live on British Eurosport from 11.30 on Sunday.

 

[May0maniac]

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ITT results from Italy:
Adriano Malori 44'13''
Moreno Moser 45'14''
Daniele Bennati 45'26''
Alan Marangoni 45'57''
Manuel Senni 45'58''
Manuele Boaro 46'09''
Simone Antonini 46'11''
Marco Canola 46'26"
Nicola Dal Santo 46'42''
Tiziano Dall'Antonia 47'10''
Federico Zurlo 47'14''
Riccardo Stacchiotti 47'26''
Luca Sterbini 47'43''
Michele Scartezzini 48'46''
Not a great field but it's nice to see that Moreno Moser is alive, a good performance by Senni who's a pure climber and a neopro.

senni isn't a pure climber at all. more a hilly rider and strong on the flat

Maybe not pure climber, but in the few interviews with him that I've read he considers himself to be a climber and prefers long climbs. He also said that Time Trials are his biggest weakness and that he really has to work on it. Is favourite race before turning pro was the Giro della Valle d’Aosta, because it suits climbers very well.
Sorry, I can't find the 2nd interview at the moment, only this one:
https://ruoteraggiecatena.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/intervista-a-manuel-senni/

 

[Hakkapelit]

Finnish National Championships, ITT: 1. Samuel Pökälä, 2. Matti Helminen, 3. Jussi Veikkanen.

 

[ILovecycling]

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ITT results from Italy:
Adriano Malori 44'13''
Moreno Moser 45'14''
Daniele Bennati 45'26''
Alan Marangoni 45'57''
Manuel Senni 45'58''
Manuele Boaro 46'09''
Simone Antonini 46'11''
Marco Canola 46'26"
Nicola Dal Santo 46'42''
Tiziano Dall'Antonia 47'10''
Federico Zurlo 47'14''
Riccardo Stacchiotti 47'26''
Luca Sterbini 47'43''
Michele Scartezzini 48'46''
Not a great field but it's nice to see that Moreno Moser is alive, a good performance by Senni who's a pure climber and a neopro.

senni isn't a pure climber at all. more a hilly rider and strong on the flat

and he was pretty good in that ttt at Romandie iirc, so not that surprising.Hopefully he can develop himself in the best way possible

 

[screaming fist]

Swiss TT

1 Silvan Dillier (SUI) BMC Racing Team
2 Reto Hollenstein (SUI) IAM Cycling
3 Steve Morabito (SUI) FDJ

(Cancellara DNS, full focus on RR)

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Polish championship TT: 1. Białobłocki 2. Gradek 3. Huzarski 4. Majka 5. Marczyński

NIce for Bialoblocki. Good rider who never really got a chance to ride at a higher level. Also a Ras winner!

 

[Velolover2]

What's on the program for tomorrow? More TTs?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Swiss TT

1 Silvan Dillier (SUI) BMC Racing Team
2 Reto Hollenstein (SUI) IAM Cycling
3 Steve Morabito (SUI) FDJ

(Cancellara DNS, full focus on RR)

Good stuff by Dillier.
Bad year in the cobbles races, but he can return strongly in 2016.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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I've a feeling Luke Rowe could be the man this year... he's going well and never really gets a shot with Sky (unlike Stannard, Kennaugh or Swift). Throw him a bone.

The sooner NFTO or some other team step up to pro-conti and strengthen their squad the better for the British nationals. This internal team championships stuff is worse than Spain. At least Caja Rural have some sort of chance there.

Tend to agree with that. I don't know how pre-determined it is mind you - Swift and Kennaugh duked it out in the final last year fairly convincingly.

It's less about it being predetermined and more about it being repetitive because Sky are a division-killer - unless the race is so flat Cav makes it. Sky then get representation in every strong break and as they have the vast majority of the strongest British cyclists, few are able to get them back. The Spanish nationals, as mentioned, end up the same way - the Caisse/Movistar guys tended to take it most years even before the bottom fell out of Spanish cycling, now there's mostly the question of which of them will win; take the year Rojas won, when Contador escaped on the climb with Rojas in tow, Movistar sat up, leaving only Euskaltel chasing for Koldo Fernández. Movistar knew full well if Rojas was dropped they could join the chase & bring Berto back, and if he wasn't he'd win the sprint easily. Movistar have become a division killer by default as all the other big Spanish teams have fallen by the wayside; Caja Rural at least have enough numbers at the right level to pose a challenge (and on a tougher course the Astana group with Landa and LuLu might have been worthy of consideration...). Sky, like Orica, Astana or Katyusha, almost need to have the top riders from their country as part of their modus operandi. The Yates bros. would at present theoretically be the most likely to spring a surprise if they work together, I guess, but that's contingent on both being fit and a course that suited them.

Then again, back in 2010 I think it was, Astana contrived to lose the Kazakh nationals not to an Astana Continental team rider but to Mizourov, riding for Tabriz...

 

[Irondan]

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Does anyone have a profile for the Danish ITT?

39.2 km:

Again, not too difficult because of the somewhat exaggerated profile (only 386 m elevation gain for the entire course).

Map

EDIT: On second thought, I actually think it's a very tough course. The two hills are in the last third of the course so it will be difficult to find the right pace. It's also near the coast so wind could be an issue too.

I think the wind will have much more of an impact than those two little pimples at the end of the stage.

 

[Brullnux]

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Swiss TT

1 Silvan Dillier (SUI) BMC Racing Team
2 Reto Hollenstein (SUI) IAM Cycling
3 Steve Morabito (SUI) FDJ

(Cancellara DNS, full focus on RR)

So the skinsuit that Trek make for Cancellara without the Swiss national colours will by used for more than once this year and not feel as pointless

 

[classicomano]

Looks like Kelderman might win the Dutch TT Nationals, Dumoulin still has to make up alot of time.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah.. strange..

Dumoulin had a really slow start to his ITT as well.
Starting to think dead flat courses just don't suit him as well.

 

[Brullnux]

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Not a great field but it's nice to see that Moreno Moser is alive

Moser seems to have more success in ITT than in hilly races recently.

It's a shame because he had quite a strong start to the season, relatively speaking, with 12th and 7th in Laugeglia and the Cadel Evans race and 8th on the stage to Wilunga Hill in the TDU behind Pozzo, Porte, Evans, Dennis and Dumolin to name a few, all have gone and has good seasons so far (bar Evans). Even Dennis has come 5th in a reasonably important TT in Romandie, and been a good team mate. He just has disappeared again. Maybe he will come back strongly for whatever race he plans on doing, hopefully San Sebastián then the late season classics in Canada to regain confidence.

 

[TheArt]

Kelderman rode 1.02.31 over 54 km which means 51.84 km/h. Nice.

 

[classicomano]

Kelderman wins, Dumoulin dropped the ball big time, only came in fourth behind Flens and van Emden. I hope he can get it together for the Tour TT, we need that maillot jaune.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I think Dumoulin just hadn't enough recovery since Tour de Suisse.

Kelderman in really good shape for the Tour

 

[Dazed and Confused]

52 km/h avg is very good for that distance. Probably too good if neutral wind.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I hope Kelderman climbs as well as his time trial. This years TDF is not really a TT tour

 

[TheArt]

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52 km/h avg is very good for that distance. Probably too good if neutral wind.

There was hardly any wind.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Yeah!!!
Keldermerckx. Seriously, big and nice surprise by wilco today.

 

[TMP402]

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I think Dumoulin just hadn't enough recovery since Tour de Suisse.

Kelderman in really good shape for the Tour

So Sky were probably wise to leave Thomas out.

 

[Sasquatch]

Really impressed with Kelderman

The tour suits him

 

[Sasquatch]

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What's on the program for tomorrow? More TTs?

France is on Thursday

I am hoping Peraud does a good ride in the tour leadup.

I think the british is thursday as well? Maybe friday