2015 Tour de France: Stage 1, Utrecht-Utrecht

[Pantani_lives]

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Nice
GESINK Robert + 00' 33'
MOLLEMA Bauke + 00' 37''
PINOT Thibaut + 00' 41''
All better than the BIG4

Yes, Nibali wasn't that good; Froome and Contador were over par today. (I almost said under par, but that's good in golf.)

It's hard to say what role the wind played, but don't forget Cancellara was also a late starter and he took over half a minute on Nibali.

 

[Escarabajo]

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For all people who came to the Forum late, the wind did not change direction, it just picked up a bit more.

I called it many time many pages ago.

Thanks!!!!!!!!

It was a back and forth course, so it’s obvious direction doesn’t matter.

That's being said quite often, but reality is that headwind simply hurts more then the tailwind helps you.

Every Tt where this happens the riders with more wind lose more time.

It is worse if the headwind happened in the second section.

 

[franic]

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For all people who came to the Forum late, the wind did not change direction, it just picked up a bit more.

I called it many time many pages ago.

Thanks!!!!!!!!

It was a back and forth course, so it’s obvious direction doesn’t matter.

But when it picks up, it is OBVIOUS that it's a disadvantage.

Yes, that’s my point. What mattered was intensity not direction

 

[Walkman]

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Nice
GESINK Robert + 00' 33'
MOLLEMA Bauke + 00' 37''
PINOT Thibaut + 00' 41''
All better than the BIG4

Gesink will be dropped like a stone when they reach the first mountain though.

Not so sure. I think Gesink will surprise quite a few people over the next weeks.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Jesus it was hot out there. I'll post a few atmosphere pix later once I've recovered.

 

[Kwibus]

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For all people who came to the Forum late, the wind did not change direction, it just picked up a bit more.

I called it many time many pages ago.

Thanks!!!!!!!!

It was a back and forth course, so it’s obvious direction doesn’t matter.

But when it picks up, it is OBVIOUS that it's a disadvantage.

Yes, that’s my point. What mattered was intensity not direction

Misunderstood you then. Apologies.

 

[winkybiker]

Nice work from the Rider of Rohan. The time bonuses will ensure he only holds it for one day, though.

 

[Pantani_lives]

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Nice work from the Rider of Rohan. The time bonuses will ensure he only holds it for one day, though.

You expect Martin or Cancellara to take boni?

 

[cellardoor]

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Nice work from the Rider of Rohan. The time bonuses will ensure he only holds it for one day, though.

Any sprinters within 10 secs?

 

[Mr.White]

So in terms of GC:
Winners: Quintana, Nibali, Pinot
As expected: Van Garderen, Uran, Valverde
Loosers: Froome, Contador, Purito, Bardet

 

[Pantani_lives]

The battle for yellow will be fun on the Mur de Huy!

 

[PremierAndrew]

Wind probably cost the last riders about 15 seconds. Would still expect Froome and Contador to have gained more on Quintana.

 

[hfer07]

So.... Once again the underrated, underestimated Vincenzo Nibali came on Top of the main competitors..... But hey!!! Keep throwing sh!t at him - that's how he disappoints the haters

 

[HelloDolly]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

I don't know if you already forgot last year? Of course the rain played a part, but it could be 1-1:30 before the mountains, also if Astana are very strong in the TTT.

But Tinkoff Saxo looks good for the TTT, but SKY looks little bad.

Are you blind as well as biased

Sky
Thomas - 33"
Konig - 43"
Froome - 50"
Poels - 1.05
Kennaugh 1 .06"

TCS
Sagan - 41"
Rogers - 43"
Contador - 58"
Kreuz - 1.06
Bennatti - 1.16

 

[cellardoor]

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So in terms of GC:
Winners: Quintana, Nibali, Pinot
As expected: Van Garderen, Uran, Valverde
Loosers: Froome, Contador, Purito, Bardet

Add Talansky to the losers list and it's about right.

 

[deValtos]

Rohan Dennis' position on the bike looked miles better than anyone else today, his head was almost touching his arms. Looked infintely more aero than anything else. Though I'm sure all the other teams have been in the wind tunnels etc it was just bizzare to see that difference.

 

[JRanton]

So.... Once again the underrated, underestimated Vincenzo Nibali came on Top of the main competitors..... But hey!!! Keep throwing sh!t at him - that's how he disappoints the haters

His performances are laughable. Can barely hold a wheel all year and then starts flying a week before the Tour.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

I don't know if you already forgot last year? Of course the rain played a part, but it could be 1-1:30 before the mountains, also if Astana are very strong in the TTT.

But Tinkoff Saxo looks good for the TTT, but SKY looks little bad.

Are you blind as well as biased

Sky
Thomas - 33"
Konig - 43"
Froome - 50"
Poels - 1.05
Kennaugh 1 .06"

TCS
Sagan - 41"
Rogers - 43"
Contador - 58"
Kreuz - 1.06
Bennatti - 1.16

Check Movistar's times!

 

[Anderis]

It's first ITT win in Dennis' pro career. After 11 second places in ITTs and prologues!

 

[Metabolol]

Looks like the wind changed in the end. Cost them maybe 10s or so. Still, Nibali rode better than Contador and Froome. Froome will be strong in the mountains but I had expected more from him.

 

[concorde]

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Nuclear Nibali.

And Surely Dennis is the big winner

Indeed, ive started on the beer. Dont have champagne

I do think i will waste my winnings during the rest of the Tour though, or maybe not if i pick the winner for every stage ill be rich (richer).

Congrats bro. I guess we got a great pick!

You to, thought i was the only one betting on Dennis. Im addicted to cycling news, so i dont think it was luck though . And as ROhan said "Ive been training all season for this time trial" .. Dedication works both for cyclists and gamblers

Tomorrow is a new day with new bets ..

 

[DenisMenchov]

LottoNL to destroy everyone in TTT

 

[del1962]

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Dont think he will win it but you can get really good odds on Castroviejo at 200/1, he has a far better chance than many with better odds

If he beats his teamate Malori i will make a video where i eat my socks.

If you could place bets on placings it would be a better deal to bet for 4th place for Malori. Castroviejo i would bet 12th place .

I am looking forward to seein the video of you eatick your socks, put it on youtube and place a link here

 

[concorde]

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Dont think he will win it but you can get really good odds on Castroviejo at 200/1, he has a far better chance than many with better odds

If he beats his teamate Malori i will make a video where i eat my socks.

If you could place bets on placings it would be a better deal to bet for 4th place for Malori. Castroviejo i would bet 12th place .

I am looking forward to seein the video of you eatick your socks, put it on youtube and place a link here

OMg,. there is always a flip side to success . I will make a video, im man of my words. PLease wait until i get some more beer inside my belly though

 

[sir fly]

Looks like Nibali really slipped through the gap created by the absence of the duo last year...