2015 Tour de France Stage 11: Pau › Cauterets

[Kwibus]

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No but Froome did whine about descents and how you shouldn't be allowed to attack on them and scolded AC like he was a little child "almost went over your head, a little more care next time Alberto?" He tried to push for neutralization of the Alpe (?) descent. And also in his book Mein Climb he was whining about Contador attacking him ("boooohooohooo how dare he attack me"). He's very much like Andy when it comes to descending

I agree that's very lame. Descending is part of cycling so I hate it when riders whine about it.
God now I really hope they attack him on all descents.

 

[Matteo.]

After la Pierre , i think everyone is scared , so i expect nothing today. And tomorrow , we will see the second round with Froome destroys all

 

[Martin]

Tinkoff-Saxo must do something today. I would love to see them split the peloton already on first 3rd cat Cote de Loucrup, getting rid of sprinters and allow Sagan to score some points on intermediate sprint. Come on, show some support to Peter, he deserves it. If he will be strong enough and stay with Alberto until Tourmalet, he might split the field hill on the downhill then.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Me neither Watching Alberto struggle makes me physically ill but it is 10x worse when it's Froome putting minutes on him. I'd rather not vomit all over my TV.

If you are close enough to your TV that you would vomit all over it then you are far too close. Sit back a bit and use a bucket.

 

[the-big-bad-wolf]

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1) Froome
2) Porte
3) Thomas
4) Konig
5) Brailsford

All crossing the line together, holding hands.

 

[Taxus4a]

It is going to be a carnage today with this hot weather; if Movistar plays hard to attack, some people will lose a lot today

 

[Tryphon]

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1) Froome
2) Porte
3) Thomas
4) Konig
5) Brailsford

All crossing the line together, holding hands.

1) Dawg
2) Lil Richie
3) Thomas
4) Konig
5) Brailsford
6) Keirrison +10s (Forgot his pillow)

 

[Carstenbf]

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Who cares?

RIP TdF2015.

you don't

many other care.
you know, all these riders are training since december just to have a spot on the team for the Tour.

the level of negativity is reaching new levels in this internet era

So I was a bit miffed over yesterdays display. Still am tbh. All I wanted was a race. With a handful of contenders in the mix, things were looking up this year. Yet here we are after one MTF. Have fun with your victory lap.

(and I actually mean that )

 

[pedromiguelmartins]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Te vas Zapata?

I'll let myself out.

I can only assume he said the same this time last year, because Froomes numbers are the same as Nibalis, I would be staggered to hear someone on this forum has a bias against Froome, it seems a crazy thing to say

Yes, for 10x the time. That's the difference. Also, Nibali showed to be a great rider since a very young age (like gifted athletes do, after all). Since they all train as much as their body can handle, it's all about genetic luck and tactics. At least, that's the way it should be.

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Mods: Sorry, I hope no line was crossed. I'm trying to be as ambiguous as I can (...)

 

[DBotero]

This is hilarious so Contador fanclub gave up already.They can't watch the Tour anymore,the can't stand Sky and Froome doing good.Wtf i suppose they missed the 7 years of Armstrong success.Now that was hard for people expecting every Tour with the hope that somebody will finally beat him.Yes Jan i'm thinking about you,you failed hard on this one.

 

[LaFlorecita]

This is hilarious so Contador fanclub gave up already.They can't watch the Tour anymore,the can't stand Sky and Froome doing good.Wtf i suppose they missed the 7 years of Armstrong success.Now that was hard for people expecting every Tour with the hope that somebody will finally beat him.Yes Jan i'm thinking about you,you failed hard on this one.

What is hilarious is that you automatically assume that all those people who don't want to watch Sky ruin another GT are Contador fans. Newsflash, they're not.

 

[Martin]

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1) Froome
2) Porte
3) Thomas
4) Konig
5) Brailsford

All crossing the line together, holding hands.

... and wheeling backwards while waving union jack

 

[pedromiguelmartins]

This is hilarious so Contador fanclub gave up already.They can't watch the Tour anymore,the can't stand Sky and Froome doing good.Wtf i suppose they missed the 7 years of Armstrong success.Now that was hard for people expecting every Tour with the hope that somebody will finally beat him.Yes Jan i'm thinking about you,you failed hard on this one.

Contador did beat Lance and gave him a lesson, won 9GTs, is 31 yo, was previously banned, is at Tinkoff, started at once and liberty seguros, won every sort of race since he started to ride a bike.

And finished 4 minutes down. So what I can't understand is why you decided to play along with this circus? if Alberto, Quintana, Valverde, Nibs and others finish eons behind, of all people, Froome and other bots of the same team, how can you post that? Do you think that this has something to do with being fanboy of a particular rider?

 

[DBotero]

This is hilarious so Contador fanclub gave up already.They can't watch the Tour anymore,the can't stand Sky and Froome doing good.Wtf i suppose they missed the 7 years of Armstrong success.Now that was hard for people expecting every Tour with the hope that somebody will finally beat him.Yes Jan i'm thinking about you,you failed hard on this one.

What is hilarious is that you automatically assume that all those people who don't want to watch Sky ruin another GT are Contador fans. Newsflash, they're not.

Come on,i think 90% procent are Contador fans.Sky can't ruin a GT,as Nibali didn't ruin it last year,as Contador didn't ruin any with his 9 GT wins.

 

[LaFlorecita]

This is hilarious so Contador fanclub gave up already.They can't watch the Tour anymore,the can't stand Sky and Froome doing good.Wtf i suppose they missed the 7 years of Armstrong success.Now that was hard for people expecting every Tour with the hope that somebody will finally beat him.Yes Jan i'm thinking about you,you failed hard on this one.

What is hilarious is that you automatically assume that all those people who don't want to watch Sky ruin another GT are Contador fans. Newsflash, they're not.

Come on,i think 90% procent are Contador fans.Sky can't ruin a GT,as Nibali didn't ruin it last year,as Contador didn't ruin any with his 9 GT wins.

Then you're thinking wrong. Many fans dislike Sky and Froome just like USPS and Lance were disliked. Too arrogant and too dominant. I've seen so many people post on social media - "I don't care who wins as long as it's not Sky". It's a myth created by Sky fans that it's only bitter Contador fans who dislike Sky. Open your eyes.

 

[Eshnar]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Te vas Zapata?

I'll let myself out.

I can only assume he said the same this time last year, because Froomes numbers are the same as Nibalis, I would be staggered to hear someone on this forum has a bias against Froome, it seems a crazy thing to say

Yes, for 10x the time. That's the difference. Also, Nibali showed to be a great rider since a very young age (like gifted athletes do, after all). Since they all train as much as their body can handle, it's all about genetic luck and tactics. At least, that's the way it should be.

***EDITED OUT BY MOD***

Mods: Sorry, I hope no line was crossed. I'm trying to be as ambiguous as I can (...)

Well that wasn't so ambiguous.

It's not that hard dude, if you can't leave doping out of your posts, you post in the Clinic. Can't be that hard can it?

 

[fungusbear]

Not expecting major attacking/exciting riding on this stage. SKY will be expecting it, and I don't think anyone is willing to risk their GC hopes with two weeks still to ride. What I am more worried about is riders not risking their GC ambitions at all. I think Contador would be willing to go for it early (not maybe on this stage but later on in the race for sure), but not sure who else would be. Nibali looks a shadow of 2014, so might not even have the legs to pose a major threat. I think Quintana may just try to hang on and when we get to the third week try and win the stages rather than try something crazy to get yellow. Van Garderen/Gesink/Valverde I think will be more interested in podium or top 5 (not being critical - they have more to gain in a high GC placing than riders like Contador/Nibali etc).

I also think (and could be very wrong here) that yesterdays stage may not be the best place to judge riders form. I would be surprised on the big, multi mountain stages whether riders like G will be flying away from all the big contenders. I think Thomas will place well (I actually really like him as a rider- more so than the other SKY riders) but would be surprised if he is dominating most of the big boys in the really tough days. Remember yesterday was pan flat all the way until the mountain, and after a rest day too. Probably will be completely wrong, but am just hoping for some good racing for the next two weeks.

 

[The Barb]

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I won't be watching this, or any other stage where froome is likely to figure. I might watch the hillier stages and the final one.

Te vas Zapata?

I'll let myself out.

I can only assume he said the same this time last year, because Froomes numbers are the same as Nibalis, I would be staggered to hear someone on this forum has a bias against Froome, it seems a crazy thing to say

Yes, for 10x the time. That's the difference. Also, Nibali showed to be a great rider since a very young age (like gifted athletes do, after all). Since they all train as much as their body can handle, it's all about genetic luck and tactics. At least, that's the way it should be.

***EDITED OUT BY MOD***

Mods: Sorry, I hope no line was crossed. I'm trying to be as ambiguous as I can (...)

Well that wasn't so ambiguous.

It's not that hard dude, if you can't leave doping out of your posts, you post in the Clinic. Can't be that hard can it?

Also, all this discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with Stage 11. If you're discussing Froome's dominance yesterday as opposed to past performances if anything that belongs in the Stage 10 thread.

 

[Vasilis]

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Breakaway stage. I don't expect froome to attack, just follow opponents. Contador and Nibali not yet in form to do it don't think. So maybe Quintana. What I'd like to see is sky actively pursue the second podium spot and send Thomas up the road or even Porte in a break. That's what I would do on pcm if I was 4 mins up with the strongest guy in the race.

I might try that too in PCM, only Porte would still be up on GC. I don't think anyone would want to ride with the rider 5th on GC though.

 

[DBotero]

This is hilarious so Contador fanclub gave up already.They can't watch the Tour anymore,the can't stand Sky and Froome doing good.Wtf i suppose they missed the 7 years of Armstrong success.Now that was hard for people expecting every Tour with the hope that somebody will finally beat him.Yes Jan i'm thinking about you,you failed hard on this one.

What is hilarious is that you automatically assume that all those people who don't want to watch Sky ruin another GT are Contador fans. Newsflash, they're not.

Come on,i think 90% procent are Contador fans.Sky can't ruin a GT,as Nibali didn't ruin it last year,as Contador didn't ruin any with his 9 GT wins.

Then you're thinking wrong. Many fans dislike Sky and Froome just like USPS and Lance were disliked. Too arrogant and too dominant. I've seen so many people post on social media - "I don't care who wins as long as it's not Sky". It's a myth created by Sky fans that it's only bitter Contador fans who dislike Sky. Open your eyes.

Ok,we both keep our views over this and carry on from here,no need to derail the thread

 

[The Barb]

For this stage I think the likelihood of a break winning is probably 70% or more. Many, many chances obviously.

I'd like to see Dan Martin have a go, assuming he gets his legs back after yesterday when he said he was "completely empty" as soon as they hit the climb.

As I said yesterday, if Riblon didn't get in the break in Stage 10 then he would try today, so I expect him to have a go.

MTN went surprisingly well yesterday, so for a total longshot Jacques Janse Van Rensburg has a chance.

Could be a fun stage. Probably not relevant to the GC, but fun nonetheless.

 

[Arredondo]

A new race day. New chances! New action!

I expect something from Contador. However, unfortunatelty he doesn't have the legs at the moment.

So a big break with guys who want revenge. Or guys with fresh legs. My bet is one of the Yates brothers.

 

[Stilletto]

I just want to watch a thrilling race please please make froome and sky go pop!
I think the giro and the Vuelta will be the biggest races in 5 years time as no one who has watched cycling wants another Postal service really ?

 

[WillemS]

I'm interested to see how US P..., I mean Team Sky is going to approach the Tourmalet. The last climb is one big sprint, setting a pace that wouldd discourage anyone from attacking, especially climbers who love steep gradients, so I'm not expecting much from them on the Tourmalet. However, they could throw some contenders out that could come back strong after the second rest day in the Alps.

 

[ToreBear]

Tomorrows stage is the one were crazy attacks on the GC could make a difference. Even more if Sky have to work really hard today. The question is why should they work hard?

Which one of the GC hopefuls will risk something today and risk getting too tired tomorrow? With 20kms downhill from Tourmalet, a lone attacker will struggle to stay away from a big group.