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I think there was a season when Garmin announced their final roster just 2 days before the race.RedheadDane said:
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I'm just going off interviews from when the route was released. He says there was 7-8 chances. And as kittel is 50-50 for the tour. He might win more than expectedEscarabajo said:
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EDIT: Or maybe it was 2011 with a surprise of including Navardauskas.
I think it was 2 or 3 years ago, but they're usually the very last team to announce their line-up for GTs, so there could be more situations like that.RedheadDane said:
EDIT: Or maybe it was 2011 with a surprise of including Navardauskas.
Looks like Basso makes the cut? The team's strength might be in a more serious situation than some of us had tried to downplay!
Edit: Come to think of it, makes sense if the rumors of Sagan being left off are true. The press photo may serve as a smack in the face to him as a gift by Olga.
Edit: Come to think of it, makes sense if the rumors of Sagan being left off are true. The press photo may serve as a smack in the face to him as a gift by Olga.
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Bodnar will not be part of the Tinkoff-Saxo squad in the Tour. He only just resumed training a couple of days ago after his surgery after ToC. And for any doubters, Sagan will be on the team if Sean Yates comments on their website are anything to go by.
The Bodnar situation now opens a dillema. Will they include Tossato or Paulinho (or will they be satisfied with Sagan, Bennati and Valgren as the flat men and put Basso in just for the sake of it - which would make a big problem in the TTT - noting that Basso isn't much help in the mountains either).
The Bodnar situation now opens a dillema. Will they include Tossato or Paulinho (or will they be satisfied with Sagan, Bennati and Valgren as the flat men and put Basso in just for the sake of it - which would make a big problem in the TTT - noting that Basso isn't much help in the mountains either).
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If this is true I agree that its critical cause bodnar would provide vital for the TTT also the flats, if this is the case I would go with someone like mørkov which is also very capable in a TTT like this. Imo the team is strong enough in the mountains with majka, kreuziger, rogers and kisserlovsk besides not any else they could bring which would do better then them so I say go with some power guys. (Good thing that all the climbers i mentioned which will most likely all go to the tour are gonne be very good in the TTT, all majka,kreuziger, rogers besides kisserlovski the tour TTT suits em) and its gonne be important for AC to not loose time hear rather gain some so bringing basso, hernandes etc would make 0 sense to me and only hurt the team. If bodnar cant go take mørkov if hes in form.
bajbar said:
If this is true I agree that its critical cause bodnar would provide vital for the TTT also the flats, if this is the case I would go with someone like mørkov which is also very capable in a TTT like this. Imo the team is strong enough in the mountains with majka, kreuziger, rogers and kisserlovsk besides not any else they could bring which would do better then them so I say go with some power guys. (Good thing that all the climbers i mentioned which will most likely all go to the tour are gonne be very good in the TTT, all majka,kreuziger, rogers besides kisserlovski the tour TTT suits em) and its gonne be important for AC to not loose time hear rather gain some so bringing basso, hernandes etc would make 0 sense to me and only hurt the team. If bodnar cant go take mørkov if hes in form.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That actually did make me laugh, Basso would get dropped on a mole hill these days.
LaFlorecita said:Ivan will be in amazing shape I am sureMiburo said:
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That actually did make me laugh, Basso would get dropped on a mole hill these days.
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therer's nothing critical about that. he shouldn't have even made the line-up anyway even if he was fit. they have much better ridersblackmamba said:
- Apr 16, 2009
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Well, more than two riders outside the Dauphine team are required in team Sky:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-skys-tour-de-france-line-up-takes-shape
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team-skys-tour-de-france-line-up-takes-shape
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So looks like it's Froome, Porte, Roche, Poels, Kennaugh and Thomas as certs then between Henao, konig, Kiri, Nieve, Rowe and Stannard for the final 3 spots.
I'd take Rowe and Yogi as the flat engines and the final spot will be either Henao or Konig.
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So looks like it's Froome, Porte, Roche, Poels, Kennaugh and Thomas as certs then between Henao, konig, Kiri, Nieve, Rowe and Stannard for the final 3 spots.
I'd take Rowe and Yogi as the flat engines and the final spot will be either Henao or Konig.
Bora-Argon18 have announced their longlist. They also announced the entirely unsurprising news that the team will be led by Sam Bennett and Dominik Nerz.
http://www.bora-argon18.com/en/news/detailview/news/bora-argon-18-announces-long-list-for-the-tour-de-france/
The selection will be from: Jan Barta (30, CZE), Cesare Benedetti (27, ITA), Sam Bennett (24, IRL), Emanuel Buchmann (22, GER), Zakkari Dempster (27, AUS), Bartosz Huzarski (34, POL), Patrick Konrad (23, AUT), Jose Mendes (30, POR), Dominik Nerz (25, GER), Cristiano Salerno (30, ITA), Andreas Schillinger (31, GER), Björn Thurau (26, GER), Paul Voss (29, GER)
This is more or less their strongest set of riders, give or take Phil Bauhaus, who is too young, and Scott Thwaites and Shane Archbold, both of whom might have expected to be in the running. It seems slightly odd to have Archbold act as Bennett's final lead out in most races so far this season, only to leave him out of a Bennett-led Tour team. Because Archbold isn't going, Zak Dempster must be a dead cert to go in that role. Mendes is also guaranteed a ride as pretty much the only specialist climber in the team who could support Nerz. Barta and Voss are surely going to be in the final selection too, so that leaves three spots for the other seven riders.
Last year, the whole team was dedicated to supporting Leo Konig's GC ambitions. This year, it will be very different. Nerz isn't going to get that kind of support - if anything he'll be the third most important consideration after Bennett and ensuring that they have someone in the break every day. In fact, Nerz's form has to be a bit of a worry for them. He's done nothing of note all year, doesn't seem to have raced much and was completely anonymous in the Dauphine. In fact, both he and Mendes were outclimbed by Voss and Buchmann in the Dauphine, which is pretty bizarre with less than three weeks to go to the Tour.
http://www.bora-argon18.com/en/news/detailview/news/bora-argon-18-announces-long-list-for-the-tour-de-france/
The selection will be from: Jan Barta (30, CZE), Cesare Benedetti (27, ITA), Sam Bennett (24, IRL), Emanuel Buchmann (22, GER), Zakkari Dempster (27, AUS), Bartosz Huzarski (34, POL), Patrick Konrad (23, AUT), Jose Mendes (30, POR), Dominik Nerz (25, GER), Cristiano Salerno (30, ITA), Andreas Schillinger (31, GER), Björn Thurau (26, GER), Paul Voss (29, GER)
This is more or less their strongest set of riders, give or take Phil Bauhaus, who is too young, and Scott Thwaites and Shane Archbold, both of whom might have expected to be in the running. It seems slightly odd to have Archbold act as Bennett's final lead out in most races so far this season, only to leave him out of a Bennett-led Tour team. Because Archbold isn't going, Zak Dempster must be a dead cert to go in that role. Mendes is also guaranteed a ride as pretty much the only specialist climber in the team who could support Nerz. Barta and Voss are surely going to be in the final selection too, so that leaves three spots for the other seven riders.
Last year, the whole team was dedicated to supporting Leo Konig's GC ambitions. This year, it will be very different. Nerz isn't going to get that kind of support - if anything he'll be the third most important consideration after Bennett and ensuring that they have someone in the break every day. In fact, Nerz's form has to be a bit of a worry for them. He's done nothing of note all year, doesn't seem to have raced much and was completely anonymous in the Dauphine. In fact, both he and Mendes were outclimbed by Voss and Buchmann in the Dauphine, which is pretty bizarre with less than three weeks to go to the Tour.
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Yes, you are probably right.
Announced:
Bennett (IRL)
Nerz (GER)
Pretty much guaranteed:
Dempster (AUS)
Mendes (POR)
Barta (CZE)
Voss (GER)
Very likely:
Huzarski (POL)
It's quite tough to pick the last two, as a lot of the remaining six candidates seem pretty evenly matched. It may be that the Germans (or at least German speakers) have an advantage, given that Bora are very keen on pushing their German identity and there are only two Germans in the "obvious" seven. If I had to guess I'd say it'll be Thurau and Schillinger, but there really isn't much to go on. You can make a case for any of the six.
roundabout said:
Yes, you are probably right.
Announced:
Bennett (IRL)
Nerz (GER)
Pretty much guaranteed:
Dempster (AUS)
Mendes (POR)
Barta (CZE)
Voss (GER)
Very likely:
Huzarski (POL)
It's quite tough to pick the last two, as a lot of the remaining six candidates seem pretty evenly matched. It may be that the Germans (or at least German speakers) have an advantage, given that Bora are very keen on pushing their German identity and there are only two Germans in the "obvious" seven. If I had to guess I'd say it'll be Thurau and Schillinger, but there really isn't much to go on. You can make a case for any of the six.
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Huzarski is just pure *** this year. I hope he's not going, because he doesn't deserve it based on his current form. I hope one of the rookies, Buchmann or Konrad, will make the final cut.roundabout said:
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It's hard to keep track of who is and isn't doing a good job on PC teams, because even more than on WT teams, the work of everyone who isn't a main leader is nearly invisible. It's easy to see that Bennett is doing pretty well and that Nerz has been MIA, but even though I keep an eye out for them I'll admit that I find it tricky to work out who the current best doms are at a team like Bora.
I'm a bit surprised that Thwaites and Archbold aren't on the longlist. Both because they could support Bennett well and because they have enough of a sprint that they'd be favourite to win from a small group if they happened to get in a successful break. Buckmann and Konrad are climbing prospects, right? Would they be able to provide meaningful help for Nerz at this point in their careers, or would they be mostly there for the experience?
Also, do you have any idea what the story is worth Nerz? Why has he been invisible?
TheArt said:
It's hard to keep track of who is and isn't doing a good job on PC teams, because even more than on WT teams, the work of everyone who isn't a main leader is nearly invisible. It's easy to see that Bennett is doing pretty well and that Nerz has been MIA, but even though I keep an eye out for them I'll admit that I find it tricky to work out who the current best doms are at a team like Bora.
I'm a bit surprised that Thwaites and Archbold aren't on the longlist. Both because they could support Bennett well and because they have enough of a sprint that they'd be favourite to win from a small group if they happened to get in a successful break. Buckmann and Konrad are climbing prospects, right? Would they be able to provide meaningful help for Nerz at this point in their careers, or would they be mostly there for the experience?
Also, do you have any idea what the story is worth Nerz? Why has he been invisible?
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Some time ago I read an interview with Archbold where he said that this was going to be a transition year and that he won't race too many days this year. The contract is also up next year, where he will do a full schedule, given that in 2016 he should by fully adapted to a full year in road racing.
Zinoviev Letter said:
Some time ago I read an interview with Archbold where he said that this was going to be a transition year and that he won't race too many days this year. The contract is also up next year, where he will do a full schedule, given that in 2016 he should by fully adapted to a full year in road racing.
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Contador can win the Giro & Tour double + Tinkov can slurp champaign out of Elisa's bellybutton = Basso on the Tour de France team!
Sagan with his new found Laurant Jalabert skills can be a better domestique in the mountains, though.
bajbar said:
Contador can win the Giro & Tour double + Tinkov can slurp champaign out of Elisa's bellybutton = Basso on the Tour de France team!
Sagan with his new found Laurant Jalabert skills can be a better domestique in the mountains, though.
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