Really happy with the stage winner, and that Purito wears red too. However overall that stage was a let down.
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True, but the same goes for all his competitors. And their results on flat time trials are exponentially worse than Dumoulin.Brullnux said:OTOH, Dumoulin said he is best at hilly time trials, not flat ones.Dekker_Tifosi said:Which means Dumoulin would normally win more time. The question is how fresh he is after riding for GC 2,5 weeks
WheelofGear said:You can't compare this TT to the one in Suisse.
The Suisse TT was very hilly, this one isn't.
Tonton said:johnymax said:The situation before the TT is similar to the GC before the TT in Tour de Suisse. 4 riders with a realistic chance to take the win. The worst time trialist is in the lead with the best TT rider being in 4th (in Suisse there was Pozzovivo in 4th place but he really didn't have a chance). Luckily for Tom this time there's no time trialist as strong as Spilak or Thomas, but only three Pinots (with especially Majka being a somewhat improved version of Pinot). On the other hand the race doesn't end with the ITT but there are still three stages after that. So even if he takes the lead it still won't be easy to keep the jersey because of his weak team.
"Somewhat" agree, except the Majka>Pinot opinion. Having said that, what happened at the TdS may happen again: climbers defend against other climbers by not attacking early (i.e. in Solden, Pinot/Pozzo waiting to attack and not destroying Spilak/Dumoulin/Gerrans), then the ITT specialists limit their losses and stay in the picture. Dumoulin is still very much alive. He shouldn't be.
Yep. The hillier the less difference between the specialists and the climbers. Dumoulin is simply better in a hilly TT because of his versatility.Dekker_Tifosi said:True, but the same goes for all his competitors. And their results on flat time trials are exponentially worse than Dumoulin.Brullnux said:OTOH, Dumoulin said he is best at hilly time trials, not flat ones.Dekker_Tifosi said:Which means Dumoulin would normally win more time. The question is how fresh he is after riding for GC 2,5 weeks
Dumoulin is probably still with the best 2/3 of the world on a long flat time trial. While Aru and Rodriguez go from decent to horrible on flat
Come on, what could they do? they are probably more surprised than we are!Dekker_Tifosi said:I wonder how Rodriguez and Aru think about the 1st week. Especially when in the first few stages Dumoulin could attack freely and nobody saw him as a danger
I think all of the top guys worried more about CF than any other rider. The main focus was on him.Escarabajo said:Come on, what could they do? they are probably more surprised than we are!Dekker_Tifosi said:I wonder how Rodriguez and Aru think about the 1st week. Especially when in the first few stages Dumoulin could attack freely and nobody saw him as a danger
Aru's 2 best TT results are in flatter time trials, this years Poland ITT and the 2013 Giro ITT as a domestique for Nibali (ok, it was a pretty technical ITT) Aru gained 56 seconds on Henao in the Poland TT, so he should be able to gain some time on Purito.Dekker_Tifosi said:True, but the same goes for all his competitors. And their results on flat time trials are exponentially worse than Dumoulin.Brullnux said:OTOH, Dumoulin said he is best at hilly time trials, not flat ones.Dekker_Tifosi said:Which means Dumoulin would normally win more time. The question is how fresh he is after riding for GC 2,5 weeks
Dumoulin is probably still with the best 2/3 of the world on a long flat time trial. While Aru and Rodriguez go from decent to horrible on flat
+1. It goes to say that course designs, sometimes not by...design , can be better than they look on paper. Suspense and drama: at this point, so far into the race, we can't tell who will prevail.This Vuelta could very well become a classic, a bloodbath, sweat, tears, a win by a handful of seconds. To be continued...More Strides than Rides said:The TT will be what it is, but the whole last week is set up to be really, really, interesting. With no MTF, two descent finishes, a Purito finish, everybody has a chance.
More Strides than Rides said:The TT will be what it is, but the whole last week is set up to be really, really, interesting. With no MTF, two descent finishes, a Purito finish, everybody has a chance.
Mayomaniac said:Aru's 2 best TT results are in flatter time trials, this years Poland ITT and the 2013 Giro ITT as a domestique for Nibali (ok, it was a pretty technical ITT) Aru gained 56 seconds on Henao in the Poland TT, so he should be able to gain some time on Purito.Dekker_Tifosi said:True, but the same goes for all his competitors. And their results on flat time trials are exponentially worse than Dumoulin.Brullnux said:OTOH, Dumoulin said he is best at hilly time trials, not flat ones.Dekker_Tifosi said:Which means Dumoulin would normally win more time. The question is how fresh he is after riding for GC 2,5 weeks
Dumoulin is probably still with the best 2/3 of the world on a long flat time trial. While Aru and Rodriguez go from decent to horrible on flat
That's simply bollocks. And it's unfair that you can come here to say something so wrong, safe in the knowledge that any rebuttal would be too Clinicky to remain here for long.jmdirt said:While I know why you "warned" the content of this post, it is the best point made so far about how the race is unfolding. The fans who are complaining want superhuman efforts day in and day out, all year long, but that isn't possible without...let's just say that you can't have it both ways.
Miburo said:Disgraceful stage, especially purito. Hope dumoulin wins it now
hrotha said:That's simply bollocks. And it's unfair that you can come here to say something so wrong, safe in the knowledge that any rebuttal would be too Clinicky to remain here for long.jmdirt said:While I know why you "warned" the content of this post, it is the best point made so far about how the race is unfolding. The fans who are complaining want superhuman efforts day in and day out, all year long, but that isn't possible without...let's just say that you can't have it both ways.