2015 Vuelta stage 19: Medina del Campo > Ávila 185.8km

[Rollthedice]

Re:

Mikel Landa 146th at 26'11".

I'm sensing big things for tomorrow.

He will win the stage from the break.

 

[Carols]

Re: Re:

Mikel Landa 146th at 26'11".

I'm sensing big things for tomorrow.

He will win the stage from the break.

Without giving one bit of help to his team leader to actually win the race. Hopefully I am wrong......

 

[Gigs_98]

IMO the thing Astana has to do is to not work...
Seriously, You can't drop someone who is as strong as you by just attacking him over and over again. However Movistar will attack, Tinkoff will attack (or they will just lead Dumoulin up all the climbs because Majka thinks that defending his fourth place is worth more than trying to get a podium), even Katusha might attack (Purito has enough podiums. We saw yesterday that he isnt satisfied). Giant is extremely weak, and if Dumoulin suddenly has to close a huge gap to Purito, Majka and/or Quintana, on his own, I don't think he can follow an Aru attack on Cotos.

 

[Mr.White]

IMO the thing Astana has to do is to not work...
Seriously, You can't drop someone who is as strong as you by just attacking him over and over again. However Movistar will attack, Tinkoff will attack (or they will just lead Dumoulin up all the climbs because Majka thinks that defending his fourth place is worth more than trying to get a podium), even Katusha might attack (Purito has enough podiums. We saw yesterday that he isnt satisfied). Giant is extremely weak, and if Dumoulin suddenly has to close a huge gap to Purito, Majka and/or Quintana, on his own, I don't think he can follow an Aru attack on Cotos.

Aru and Astana will do that for him, they will not gamble with Purito up the road. He only needs to look Aru

 

[classicomano]

Lulu giving Aru a handsling?

 

[victorschipolrijk]

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Good news for the race is that Aru looked really strong closing down the gap at the end, with almost no help from his team. Doesn't seem too affected by the crash and should attack loads tomorrow if that is the case.

Pozzovivo gave him a hand, without him he woulda lost 4" more.

 

[DFA123]

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Good news for the race is that Aru looked really strong closing down the gap at the end, with almost no help from his team. Doesn't seem too affected by the crash and should attack loads tomorrow if that is the case.

Pozzovivo gave him a hand, without him he woulda lost 4" more.

And? For Aru to put in such a decent effort on a climb that doesn't suit him at all - dropping nearly all of the other GC riders clearly shows he is feeling pretty good.

 

[StannisBaratheon]

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Lulu giving Aru a handsling?

He should be banned and all his results should be nullified, just like Armstrong

 

[l.Harm]

Rumoured that he'll get 10 seconds time punishment.


- WRONG information.

Jury will study it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

That Luisle Aru thing isn't clear enough, doubt there will be a penalty.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Lulu giving Aru a handsling?

He should be banned and all his results should be nullified, just like Armstrong

Well, there gotta be a penalty for this.

10-25s seems right.

I can't imagine Aru getting away with this.

 

[victorschipolrijk]

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I think in hindsight it was wasted effort by Dumoulin. He's gained a few seconds that won't help him if he's dropped in the mountains. Would have been better to save all his strength and just stick to Aru like glue tomorrow. He's probably burnt two or three matches from that late push; two or three that he won't have available tomorrow now.

In a hindsight, I would say that Aru appeared to burn more matched than Tom in his desperate chase...

That's right.

Apparently some folks think that TD made a huge effort but the rest of the field crossed the finish line riding a cab.

Everyone made a big effort.

The psychological effect of losing time to his main foe, can take its toll.

Anyways, between the end of today's stage and the beginning of tomorrow's, there is a night, and I am sure both of them will be a little bit restless, but Aru more, he knows that out of 3 bullets, he already squandered 2, only one left.

Landa will be fresh, he lost some more time today to save energy for tomorrow. He certainly be ready to drop TD, and he probably will and in the process Aru too.

I don't know what is going to happen tomorrow, who is going to win, but I am pretty confident that Aru won't be able to drop TD.

 

[DFA123]

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Lulu giving Aru a handsling?

He should be banned and all his results should be nullified, just like Armstrong

Well, there gotta be a penalty for this.

10-25s seems right.

I can't imagine Aru getting away with this.

It would be 10 seconds according to the UCI rulebook. Looks just about inconclusive enough for the organisers to look the other way though unless there is another angle somewhere.

 

[StannisBaratheon]

After they crucified Nibali (for other reason, of course) it would be stupid and unfair not to penalize Aru. But, still, this is the Vuelta and everything is possible.

 

[Brullnux]

I think DFA is right, inconclusive in these shots, you never truly see the hands touching, Atu is blocked in the front view one and the birds eye one is too far away to really tell.

 

[classicomano]

They should be able to get the overhead shot from the heli right? That captured the whole thing surely.

 

[screaming fist]

In the overhead from the TV pictures they are hidden by the tree. However, the jury might still have access to other footage and surely will be able to view it frame by frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oOYuvaPEkE&feature=youtu.be&t=11m8s

 

[Carols]

Well I sure can't see anything because of the trees and/or other riders....he was handing him a gel?

 

[classicomano]

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In the overhead from the TV pictures they are hidden by the tree. However, the jury might still have access to other footage and surely will be able to view it frame by frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oOYuvaPEkE&feature=youtu.be&t=11m8s

The helicopter view switches off before the actual event and they were in clear view so they definetly got it on camera, if it happened.

 

[Aapjes]

EDIT: THIS IS A MISTAKE BY THE NEWS SITE

NU.nl says 10 second penalty: https://twitter.com/pvalstar/status/642402753470439424

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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NU.nl says 10 second penalty: https://twitter.com/pvalstar/status/642402753470439424

Good, but I like to see this increased in the rule book when the incident happens in the finale.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

it's not confirmed yet. Nu.nl have adjusted their article.

 

[luckyboy]

NU.nl just misinterpreted a Procyclingstats tweet where they asked whether he would get a ten second penalty or not

 

[Aapjes]

Yeah, was looking for confirmation and couldn't find anything

 

[Aapjes]

Thijs Zonneveld (guy behind the Dutch Mountain) says that the jury report has no penalty:

https://twitter.com/thijszonneveld/status/642406877456941056