Do you people think that in a 500 mts sprint at 6 % Valverde is less favourite than the sprinters in this Vuelta after those steep ramps they are gonna face before?
I mean, could Sagan, for example, win Valverde if they arrive together at that sprint?
I mean, could Sagan, for example, win Valverde if they arrive together at that sprint?
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Some people here. But my guess is that if Valverde arrives with Sagan or Degenkolb at that kind of sprint, and having passed fast the previous short steep climb, who do you think would be favourite?ILovecycling said:
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As mentioned in interviews both before and after the stage and evident by their teams riding at the Front both Valverde & Purito wanted to win stage 2 . Quintana was riding fro Valverde and was a bit rusty and Froome was unsure of his form and found he climb hard going. Dan Martin also wanted to win the stage and take red
No where did anyone say they 'can't be arsed' with early stages. Do you make this sh** up ? Are you Carlton Kirby ?
Tom Dumoulin has a chance on the steeper shorter stages this week but will be left behind on the mountains ...especially as they come one after another
Winners tomorrow will be Moreno, Purito, Valverde or one of the top 4 from stage 2
classicomano said:
As mentioned in interviews both before and after the stage and evident by their teams riding at the Front both Valverde & Purito wanted to win stage 2 . Quintana was riding fro Valverde and was a bit rusty and Froome was unsure of his form and found he climb hard going. Dan Martin also wanted to win the stage and take red
No where did anyone say they 'can't be arsed' with early stages. Do you make this sh** up ? Are you Carlton Kirby ?
Tom Dumoulin has a chance on the steeper shorter stages this week but will be left behind on the mountains ...especially as they come one after another
Winners tomorrow will be Moreno, Purito, Valverde or one of the top 4 from stage 2
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You have to believe me, they will softpedal tomorrow. I bet my life on it.HelloDolly said:
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I think Sky would happily let Henao have a go like they did with Roche yesterday, as mentioned before it means they could mop up bonuses from Purito and Valverde.
Escarabajo said:
I think Sky would happily let Henao have a go like they did with Roche yesterday, as mentioned before it means they could mop up bonuses from Purito and Valverde.
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Remember Valverde on Huy in the Tour...yeah me neither, because he sucked (for his standards). Then he goes on to have the best Tour of his life. So don't count him out for this Vuelta. He will be up there with the best, battling for the overall victory and maybe even tomorrow for the stage. Of course I think the same for Purito. I think he is good enough to battle at least for a spot on the podium.
Arredondo said:
Remember Valverde on Huy in the Tour...yeah me neither, because he sucked (for his standards). Then he goes on to have the best Tour of his life. So don't count him out for this Vuelta. He will be up there with the best, battling for the overall victory and maybe even tomorrow for the stage. Of course I think the same for Purito. I think he is good enough to battle at least for a spot on the podium.
I'm thinking Sagan can do it. The profile looks like he can catch up after the initial steep ascent, recover/draft a bit on the slight downhill, and put in the fierce wattage needed on the final stretch. Being forced to ride this race, he isn't going to soft pedal an opportunity like this - will be super motivated for the win.
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Personally I find it hard to believe that Sagan or other sprinters will be anywhere near the front at the end. 1km at 12% is just too much in my opinion... the race will blow apart on that 1km 12% climb, and it's too close to the finish for things to group back together very much, especially with the 6% hill at the end. The climb that starts with 4km to go is actually more of a 2km long 9% climb. The last 4km in general will have about 250m of climbing.
Fernandez said:
Personally I find it hard to believe that Sagan or other sprinters will be anywhere near the front at the end. 1km at 12% is just too much in my opinion... the race will blow apart on that 1km 12% climb, and it's too close to the finish for things to group back together very much, especially with the 6% hill at the end. The climb that starts with 4km to go is actually more of a 2km long 9% climb. The last 4km in general will have about 250m of climbing.
purito or dani moreno for the win. valverde is too good, he even hasn't budged at suchlike finishes in the last vueltas as far as i remember.
Don't know where all the love for Dan Martin comes from. He was only just (like 1 second) behind Chaves when they both attacked in stage 2. He just kept om losing time on Chaves and eventually the trio of Chaves, Dumoulin and Roche who even spent some time looking at each other.
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The TV coverage I saw was poor so I wasn't sure where everyone was positioned at the start of the climb but I thought Martin climbed it faster than all the GC favorites? Or did the top 10 finishers not start the climb together?
I don't expect much excitement until the last 10km tomorrow but this unique finish will be really interesting!
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The TV coverage I saw was poor so I wasn't sure where everyone was positioned at the start of the climb but I thought Martin climbed it faster than all the GC favorites? Or did the top 10 finishers not start the climb together?
I don't expect much excitement until the last 10km tomorrow but this unique finish will be really interesting!
Final climb looks like 1k of about 12%, then 700m light climbing and false flat with the last 300m about 10%, then 1k false flat downhill followed by 500m downhill and the last 400m again a steep section of 10%. Definitely Purito territory.
It's possible though that he'll conserve his energy and wait for the last 400m but it's risky since others might have taken the lead already (Martin, Chavez, Moreno, Henao and the likes will try at the first steep section) and he'll have to content the sprint with a conservative riding Valverde and that never ends well for Purito.
For Dumoulin to get the leaders jersey I don't think it will be enough to just hold on wheels with the main bunch. He will have to attack to finish early enough in the front.
It's possible though that he'll conserve his energy and wait for the last 400m but it's risky since others might have taken the lead already (Martin, Chavez, Moreno, Henao and the likes will try at the first steep section) and he'll have to content the sprint with a conservative riding Valverde and that never ends well for Purito.
For Dumoulin to get the leaders jersey I don't think it will be enough to just hold on wheels with the main bunch. He will have to attack to finish early enough in the front.
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If Henao is ok after that fall then he has a decent chance.But as I see this profile its Murito's to lose.
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Hmmm seeing this profile I better remove degenkolb and Bouhanni from my team today. I considered them dropping at the 1km at 12%, but thought they had a serious chance of returning, but seeing this I doubt it and considering that 10.2% in the final k it's not like they stand a chance either.
Sagan I'll keep as in theory if he's really good he could just survive if the big guns don't go all out on that 1k at 12%.
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According to Google Data...
Hmmm seeing this profile I better remove degenkolb and Bouhanni from my team today. I considered them dropping at the 1km at 12%, but thought they had a serious chance of returning, but seeing this I doubt it and considering that 10.2% in the final k it's not like they stand a chance either.
Sagan I'll keep as in theory if he's really good he could just survive if the big guns don't go all out on that 1k at 12%.
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When Chaves jumped from the favourites group Martin almost directly followed and was only a few meters from Chaves wheel, but he never managed to close it. Actually after about 200-300mtr the gap increased very fast and he never saw Chaves again who quickly connected with Quintana, Roche and Dumoulin and continued to drop Quintana and lead most of the climb with the others in his wheel.
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When Chaves jumped from the favourites group Martin almost directly followed and was only a few meters from Chaves wheel, but he never managed to close it. Actually after about 200-300mtr the gap increased very fast and he never saw Chaves again who quickly connected with Quintana, Roche and Dumoulin and continued to drop Quintana and lead most of the climb with the others in his wheel.
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Re: 2015 Vuelta stage 4: Estepona > Vejer de la Frontera 209
I was kind of surprised when people said that the last half kilometer is only 6% steep because it looked steeper at the profile. Now that I see this profile I am pretty sure this stage wont end in a sprint
I was kind of surprised when people said that the last half kilometer is only 6% steep because it looked steeper at the profile. Now that I see this profile I am pretty sure this stage wont end in a sprint
Re: 2015 Vuelta stage 4: Estepona > Vejer de la Frontera 209
https://goo.gl/maps/qSekT
This is the final ramp on Street View.
Gigs_98 said:
https://goo.gl/maps/qSekT
This is the final ramp on Street View.
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