2016 Critérium du Dauphiné, 2.UWT, June 5-12

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Andro said:
I'm not sure how many times Froome has to do his yo-yo bluff before people stop being surprised by it.

Froome vs. Quintana for the Tour.
I don't think it's a bluff; it's just efficient riding. He knows he's the strongest climber in the field; why go anaerobic and respond to attacks from weaker riders? He can just carrying on spinning at threshold, reel them in and then attack them decisively when they're already on the limit.
 
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So Contador, will you retire after all, or the 100th Giro is gonna be your goal next year?

Like I already said, Contador's no longer the explosive rider he once was pre-ban.
 
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Kwibus said:
Lexman said:
what to say about Pinot & Aru...

They will be fine. I've seen riders ride worse during the Dauphine to see them shine in July.

Hear, hear. People and early conclusions. Everyone should know better by now.
 
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Gigs_98 said:
What is also worrying me is that TJVG was clearly closer to froome last year than contador this year. Yeah they might have a different build up but bertie usually has quite a good shape in the dauphine.

He really doesn't.

2014 was his only good Dauphiné, all others were awful, and we don't know if he peaked too early.
Even 2010 with the worst field i've ever seen in one of these races he still managed to lose
 
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LaFlorecita said:
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Looks like those 9s won't be significant after all :eek:
Maybe over Porte, he'd otherwise have been in the yellow jersey.
Don't think Porte will be within 9s to Froome at the end of the race.
Maybe not, but he would be in the jersey, which changes the dynamic of the race.
 
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Kwibus said:
I have no idea what I see when I watch Froome. It's just the weirdest style, ofcourse nothing new here, but that sprint vs Porte looks so completely weird. It's as if he's not sprinting, but then I watch Porte behind him going completely bananas and then I watch Froome again and it's just as if he's barely applying any power.
Yeah, I can't understand it either.
 
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DFA123 said:
Andro said:
I'm not sure how many times Froome has to do his yo-yo bluff before people stop being surprised by it.

Froome vs. Quintana for the Tour.
I don't think it's a bluff; it's just efficient riding. He knows he's the strongest climber in the field; why go anaerobic and respond to attacks from weaker riders? He can just carrying on spinning at threshold, reel them in and then attack them decisively when they're already on the limit.

True, although wind matters even for climbs.
 
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Beech Mtn said:
I hate to say it, but that slow-mo of Contador coming over the line reminded me of Lance during his comeback. Just looking old and tired.

I agree. I saw the same thing. Sad to say for a legend, he is out of his class. He has got to rethink the retirement thing, so we don't see a sad mess. He is perhaps 2 years beyond when he should have quit.
 
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Andro said:
I'm not sure how many times Froome has to do his yo-yo bluff before people stop being surprised by it.

The reason it can still surprise is because he did it in Vuelta '14 and Romandie '15 and that was his only weapon, he had no ability to then attack on top of the yo-yoing. In the Vuelta, Contador easily followed him most of the time, in Romandie, a group including Quintana managed to follow him but clearly found it a bit harder. So he can now yo-yo and then attack compared to his form in between the 2014 Tour and 2015 Dauphiné.
 
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Contador certainly wasn't surprised by it. If he thought Froome was genuinely in trouble, it would have been a good time to attack when Martin distanced Froome. Instead he knew what was going on
 
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Pricey_sky said:
Well worked from Sky there, give Landa the free role and Froome to ride his own tempo before unleashing the attack.

Porte as usual very strong in the week long races.

Great ride from Yatesy to possibly take 3rd?
I agree, well played, though Kreuziger covered Landa ok so nothing much of it at the end.

Wonder about Poels and Henao - did they suck today or just saved power for next stages? That would be smart move from Sky.
 
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jilbiker said:
Beech Mtn said:
I hate to say it, but that slow-mo of Contador coming over the line reminded me of Lance during his comeback. Just looking old and tired.

I agree. I saw the same thing. Sad to say for a legend, he is out of his class. He has got to rethink the retirement thing, so we don't see a sad mess. He is perhaps 2 years beyond when he should have quit.

Winning a Giro last year? I agree that it didn't look great today, but to say that not retiring after 2014 was a mistake is a bit harsh no?
 
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SeriousSam said:
DFA123 said:
Andro said:
I'm not sure how many times Froome has to do his yo-yo bluff before people stop being surprised by it.

Froome vs. Quintana for the Tour.
I don't think it's a bluff; it's just efficient riding. He knows he's the strongest climber in the field; why go anaerobic and respond to attacks from weaker riders? He can just carrying on spinning at threshold, reel them in and then attack them decisively when they're already on the limit.

True, although wind matters even for climbs.
Sure, but Sky have surely made the calculations and worked out it's the best strategy. Putting your nose in the wind for half a minute on a climb has to be better than going deep into the red trying to follow the attack of a much more punchy rider like Martin.
 
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portugal11 said:
Bertie was the most explosive rider of the peloton but now he has to understand that froome is more explosive than him

Two other Spaniards are more explosive though ;)
 
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Gigs_98 said:
What is also worrying me is that TJVG was clearly closer to froome last year than contador this year. Yeah they might have a different build up but bertie usually has quite a good shape in the dauphine.

Oh, and once again an impressive Yo-Yo by froome :D

Froome had illnesses until Romandie last year though.