2016 Critérium du Dauphiné, 2.UWT, June 5-12

[fantomas]

No gap according to the official results.

 

[Carols]

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What the heck is Kwiat doing? Killing himself to stay away with 15 k to go when he is probably one of the most explosive riders should it come down to the last ramp.

He probably doesnt have the shape

Arrives 13 minutes down!

 

[Vasilis]

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Alberto is never good on this sort of finish, so no worries. He needs either a long climb at these gradients (~6%) or 1km at very steep gradients (10+%). Not 1km at 6% with a flat final ~300m.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=149909
I though this one was quite a similar climb?

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Herrada win is obvious... hopefully.

I got Gallopin > GVA @ 2,70 (!!!) and Gasparotto > Balaphil @ 2,75. Lets go!

It was more than obvious.

All hail Jesus. I love you.

Where did Alaphillipe finish? Gaspa looked about 15th or so. 2/3 for sure, is it 3? Either way, congrats

Well, I also had Herrada as a stage winner @ 40,00 with 100 DKK played (13 Euros or so), so honestly, I don't really care Vamos vamos.

These stages always deliver. More of those, please.

 

[DFA123]

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Wtf Kwiato lost 13 minutes

Wow, that's embarrassing, unless he crashed or something. He must have been averaging about 12km/h in the last 10k.

Although, perhaps he's done it deliberately so he'll be allowed off the leash by the GC guys later in the race.

 

[Brullnux]

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Alberto is never good on this sort of finish, so no worries. He needs either a long climb at these gradients (~6%) or 1km at very steep gradients (10+%). Not 1km at 6% with a flat final ~300m.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=149909
I though this one was quite a similar climb?

Monte Berico is slightly harder than the Cauberg but easier than Mur de Huy. So I wouldn't say so. Berico is steeper IMO.

 

[bajbar]

Now they are all at 2 seconds, so no gap in the end between Contador and Froome.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Meh. Contador always loses time on this kind of finish. Especially when he only leads by a handful of seconds and you'd hope he'd hang on. He just doesn't.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Froome dropped Contador from his wheel! - on a Kat3 :O

On a 21 Km climb with some rest...

 

[Jakub]

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Now they are all at 2 seconds, so no gap in the end between Contador and Froome.

I expected that.
Yessssss

 

[rune1107]

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Alberto is never good on this sort of finish, so no worries. He needs either a long climb at these gradients (~6%) or 1km at very steep gradients (10+%). Not 1km at 6% with a flat final ~300m.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=149909
I though this one was quite a similar climb?

The Vicenza finish was way steeper, with the final 100 m being 11%

 

[Miburo]

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Alberto is never good on this sort of finish, so no worries. He needs either a long climb at these gradients (~6%) or 1km at very steep gradients (10+%). Not 1km at 6% with a flat final ~300m.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=149909
I though this one was quite a similar climb?

Are you for real? xD

That stage was super hard and in the rain.

And last hill had % above 10.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Alberto is never good on this sort of finish, so no worries. He needs either a long climb at these gradients (~6%) or 1km at very steep gradients (10+%). Not 1km at 6% with a flat final ~300m.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=149909
I though this one was quite a similar climb?

Last 500m were at 10%. Not like today, 500 to 300m 6%, then last 300m flat. Anyway, the GC timings have been corrected, no seconds lost.

 

[Beech Mtn]

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Now they are all at 2 seconds, so no gap in the end between Contador and Froome.

If that's the case, then being at the mercy of the rest of group not to open up gaps worked out OK. I'll take it

 

[Broccolidwarf]

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Let's see what Contador does in the mountains, but not looking that good so far in a cat 3.

In all fairness he lost the time on the flat-ish end and it doesn't really show anything. If Contador had dropped then yes but he was fine. Let's see first tomorrow and then Meribel especially.

Exactly. By the end climb was over and Contador didn't struggle on the actual climb.

I don't agree - Froome is not better than Contador on the flat .... they are about equal on TT - and have been for a long while.... so Froome should not be able to drop Contador from his wheel like that - there is clearly a difference in form.

Question just is, if Contador has timed his form to peak later than Froome, like week 2 in TdF..... Can't remember the TdF route by heart - are there any big climbs in the first week?

 

[Alexandre B.]

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I lol'd so hard

 

[LaFlorecita]

Chubby Valgren coming in at 19 minutes and Berto blows him a kiss on the podium

 

[DFA123]

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Let's see what Contador does in the mountains, but not looking that good so far in a cat 3.

In all fairness he lost the time on the flat-ish end and it doesn't really show anything. If Contador had dropped then yes but he was fine. Let's see first tomorrow and then Meribel especially.

Exactly. By the end climb was over and Contador didn't struggle on the actual climb.

I don't agree - Froome is not better than Contador on the flat .... they are about equal on TT - and have been for a long while.... so Froome should not be able to drop Contador from his wheel like that - there is clearly a difference in form.

Question just is, if Contador has timed his form to peak later than Froome, like week 2 in TdF..... Can't remember the TdF route by heart - are there any big climbs in the first week?

This wasn't really comparable to a TT, it was closer to a flat sprint at the end. And Contador, for all his strengths, is one of the worst sprinters in the peloton.

There's no way you can read anything into climbing or TT form based on what happened in those final 200m.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Let's see what Contador does in the mountains, but not looking that good so far in a cat 3.

In all fairness he lost the time on the flat-ish end and it doesn't really show anything. If Contador had dropped then yes but he was fine. Let's see first tomorrow and then Meribel especially.

Exactly. By the end climb was over and Contador didn't struggle on the actual climb.

I don't agree - Froome is not better than Contador on the flat .... they are about equal on TT - and have been for a long while.... so Froome should not be able to drop Contador from his wheel like that - there is clearly a difference in form.

Question just is, if Contador has timed his form to peak later than Froome, like week 2 in TdF..... Can't remember the TdF route by heart - are there any big climbs in the first week?

Alberto is a terrible sprinter. He always drifts backwards in a flat sprint. It's a miracle he nearly managed to beat Froome in Oman 3 years ago.
There is no difference in form - at least, Contador isn't in worse form than Froome. Have you forgotten the prologue already?

 

[iGOR]

1. CONTADOR Alberto 21 TINKOFF 08h 53' 14''
2. PORTE Richie 11 BMC RACING TEAM 08h 53' 20'' + 00' 06''
3. FROOME Christopher 1 TEAM SKY 08h 53' 27'' + 00' 13''
4. MARTIN Daniel 41 ETIXX-QUICK STEP 08h 53' 35'' + 00' 21''
5. ALAPHILIPPE Julian 42 ETIXX-QUICK STEP 08h 53' 38'' + 00' 24''
6. HERRADA Jesús 133 MOVISTAR TEAM 08h 53' 41'' + 00' 27'

The official site of Criterium du dauphine!!!

 

[burning]

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******, there were no clear gaps between riders so the time should be the same. Berto got screwed over there but at least he keeps the lead.

ugh your crying all the time. there were definitely gaps. the orica rider for instance was a few seconds behind clearly and there were more. the time keeps running and once a gap it might be 6 or 8 seconds. contadors own fault

lol

 

[bajbar]

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Chubby Valgren coming in at 19 minutes and Berto blows him a kiss on the podium

Well, the team really did a good job today. Valgrenn, Paulinho and Gogl were doing a good job on the flat and then Hansen, Kiserlovski in Kreuziger all set a very good pace and basically controled all the attacks... Hansen droping Poels is quite a thing But Trofimov... to think that he was climbing better than Aru on Mortirolo last year... He was on the front for 5 seconds and he was gone...

 

[Taxus4a]

Aru lost 21 seconds, Landa as well, but he was working.

Landa could win this race, so I think SKY is playing wrong his cards...although I think Landa want to show he is a reliable domestique to help Froome for le Tour without any personal ambition...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

btw I'm still laughing my ass off at the guys claiming valgren had any chance today :L

 

[Broccolidwarf]

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Let's see what Contador does in the mountains, but not looking that good so far in a cat 3.

In all fairness he lost the time on the flat-ish end and it doesn't really show anything. If Contador had dropped then yes but he was fine. Let's see first tomorrow and then Meribel especially.

Exactly. By the end climb was over and Contador didn't struggle on the actual climb.

I don't agree - Froome is not better than Contador on the flat .... they are about equal on TT - and have been for a long while.... so Froome should not be able to drop Contador from his wheel like that - there is clearly a difference in form.

Question just is, if Contador has timed his form to peak later than Froome, like week 2 in TdF..... Can't remember the TdF route by heart - are there any big climbs in the first week?

This wasn't really comparable to a TT, it was closer to a flat sprint at the end. And Contador, for all his strengths, is one of the worst sprinters in the peloton.

There's no way you can read anything into climbing or TT form based on what happened in those final 200m.

Perhaps...