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- Mar 22, 2010
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Withdrawals have had some impact on the teams: 14 of the 31 riders that are out were selected, but that includes 6 of the most popular 11 picks.
Peraud (33 teams)
Landa (28)
Ruffoni (23)
Pelucchi (18)
Kittel (16)
Niemiec (15)
Hesjedal (9)
Viviani (6)
Geniez (4)
Van Poppel (3)
Agnoli (3)
Fraile (2)
Ewan (2)
Berlato (1)
The impact is not always dire, however. Ruffoni, Berlato, Van Poppel and Agnoi were 50 points of each, and not necessarily included with any expectation of much return beyond the 15 points for finishing, and with an average spend of 388 points/rider, Peraud. Pelucchi and Niemiec were less than half a rider each in price, Fraile a bit more expensive. Not all of the DNFs have been a total let down either: Kittel had gained a respectable 168 guaranteed points for his teams which are not lost, and Ruffoni's points/investment return of 92% will not be beaten by very many riders. Ewan (62 points) and Viviani (41) at least made some contributions to their teams, but will be seen as expensive flops, as will Hesjedal and Geniez. But it is Landa's 28 teams that will suffer most: the 3 point return on a spend of 1102 points is no compensation at all.
Within the same category, sorted by game standing (Projected points)
9 riders remaining: Murali (14th)
8 riders: Comodoro (9th), Caruut
7 riders: GPBlanco (2nd), BicycleBoy, 18Valve, Kabete, NairoQ, TomJelte, Vladimir, Barmaher, Mellow_Velo, Jancouver, Trudgin
6 riders: LightBing (1st), BluesInTheBottle, AmisVelo, Postmanhat, Rote_Laterne, Yellow_Knight, Capt_Cavman, Not_My_Circus, Scrool07, Torcia86, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, JustSomeGuy, Bbass, Shalgo, JosephD
5 riders: Del1962 (4th), DJW, Minessa, Crevaison, GeraintTooFast, Armchair_Cyclist, Tigerion, Carlo_Algatrensig, ArchieBoy, Hugo87, Joelsim, Fauniera, Murrjt, Josedin
4 riders: SemirS (8th), LosBrolin, Search, Laarsland, PremierAndrew, Leadbelly, GodChild and Collective Wisdom.
18Valve, Kabete, DJW and SemirS hold onto places 5-8 despite having lost Landa: Loss of Viviani does stop Bicycle Boy from holding 3rd, and Geniez's failure has not stopped Del1962 from being 4th. And Kittel's DNF doesn't avoid LightBing from being in the lead.
Peraud (33 teams)
Landa (28)
Ruffoni (23)
Pelucchi (18)
Kittel (16)
Niemiec (15)
Hesjedal (9)
Viviani (6)
Geniez (4)
Van Poppel (3)
Agnoli (3)
Fraile (2)
Ewan (2)
Berlato (1)
The impact is not always dire, however. Ruffoni, Berlato, Van Poppel and Agnoi were 50 points of each, and not necessarily included with any expectation of much return beyond the 15 points for finishing, and with an average spend of 388 points/rider, Peraud. Pelucchi and Niemiec were less than half a rider each in price, Fraile a bit more expensive. Not all of the DNFs have been a total let down either: Kittel had gained a respectable 168 guaranteed points for his teams which are not lost, and Ruffoni's points/investment return of 92% will not be beaten by very many riders. Ewan (62 points) and Viviani (41) at least made some contributions to their teams, but will be seen as expensive flops, as will Hesjedal and Geniez. But it is Landa's 28 teams that will suffer most: the 3 point return on a spend of 1102 points is no compensation at all.
Within the same category, sorted by game standing (Projected points)
9 riders remaining: Murali (14th)
8 riders: Comodoro (9th), Caruut
7 riders: GPBlanco (2nd), BicycleBoy, 18Valve, Kabete, NairoQ, TomJelte, Vladimir, Barmaher, Mellow_Velo, Jancouver, Trudgin
6 riders: LightBing (1st), BluesInTheBottle, AmisVelo, Postmanhat, Rote_Laterne, Yellow_Knight, Capt_Cavman, Not_My_Circus, Scrool07, Torcia86, Hakkie2, Kazistuta, JustSomeGuy, Bbass, Shalgo, JosephD
5 riders: Del1962 (4th), DJW, Minessa, Crevaison, GeraintTooFast, Armchair_Cyclist, Tigerion, Carlo_Algatrensig, ArchieBoy, Hugo87, Joelsim, Fauniera, Murrjt, Josedin
4 riders: SemirS (8th), LosBrolin, Search, Laarsland, PremierAndrew, Leadbelly, GodChild and Collective Wisdom.
18Valve, Kabete, DJW and SemirS hold onto places 5-8 despite having lost Landa: Loss of Viviani does stop Bicycle Boy from holding 3rd, and Geniez's failure has not stopped Del1962 from being 4th. And Kittel's DNF doesn't avoid LightBing from being in the lead.
- Mar 22, 2010
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Stage 15 Mountain Time Trial
Guaranteed Points
Foliforov may hav surprised many observers, but at least 4 of us had seen some potential in him for the race, and even more trusted in his team captain.
FOLIFOROV Alexander 70 4 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 58 9 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 25 1 team
FIRSANOV Sergey 15 9 teams
SCARPONI Michele 10 0 team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 7 2 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 5 16 teams
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 3 0 team
JUNGELS Bob 2 4 teams
MAJKA Rafal 1 8 teams
Murrjt's top stage score from Stage 3 is matched
1 18Valve 128 (Foloiforov, Kruijswijk)
2 Kazistuta 95 (Foloiforov, Valverde)
3 Bbass 77 ( (Foloiforov, Zakarin, Jungels))
4 BicycleBoy 75 (Kruijswijk, Firsanov, Jungels)
5 Search 70 (Foloiforov)
6 GPBlanco 64 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin, Majka)
7 LightBing 63 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin)
8= Del1962, DJW, Kabete, LosBrolin, SemirS 58 (Kruijswijk)
13= Barmaher, Caruut 22
15= Crevaison, Mellow_Velo, Shalgo 20
18= Fauniera, Josedin, Not_My_Circus 15
21 Postmanhat 7
22 Scrool07 6
23= Rest of the Zakarins 5
31 BluesInTheBottle 3
32 Five more Majkas 1
GP Standings
1 LightBing 412
2 BluesInTheBottle 362
3 Del1962 348
4 DJW 343
5 BicycleBoy 326
6 Search 300
7 Yellow_Knight 284
8 Minessa 283
9 18Valve 278
10 Fauniera 277
11 Mellow_Velo 259
12 Not_My_Circus 254
13 Laarsland 249
14 Bbass 244
15 GPBlanco 231
16 Murrjt 230
17 Capt_Cavman 229
17 Joelsim 229
19 Carlo_Algatrensig 224
19 SemirS 224
21 Kabete 212
22 Tigerion 179
23 Barmaher 175
23 LosBrolin 175
25 NairoQ 160
26 Kazistuta 157
27 Caruut 138
27 Josedin 138
29 Trudgin 132
30 Postmanhat 131
31 Crevaison 125
32 Shalgo 121
33 Jancouver 116
34 Leadbelly 114
35 AmisVelo 113
36 Comodoro 110
36 Scrool07 110
38 Murali 109
39 Rote_Laterne 106
40 PremierAndrew 102
41 Armchair_Cyclist 98
42 GeraintTooFast 97
43 TomJelte 78
44 ArchieBoy 69
45 GodChild 65
45 Hakkie2 65
47 Hugo87 57
48 JustSomeGuy 55
49 JosephD 52
50 Vladimir 43
51 Torcia86 37
Collective_Wisdom 64
Projected Points
Rider point changes
Nibali and Uran were, individually or jointly, the big hope of many teams: that hope is somewhat undermined today:
FOLIFOROV Alexander +77 4 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban +67 2 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +63 9 teams
JUNGELS Bob +54 4 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur +30 16 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro +26 1 team
MAJKA Rafal +26 8 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni +20 1 team
FIRSANOV Sergey +17 9 teams
...
SABATINI Fabio -15 1 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -52 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto -53 28 teams
NIBALI Vincenzo -60 11 teams
Team gains and losses
1 Bbass 160
2 GPBlanco 106
3 BicycleBoy 81
4 18Valve 80
5 Caruut 72
6 LosBrolin 63
7 Scrool07 52
8 Kazistuta 50
8 Trudgin 50
10 Barmaher 47
10 Postmanhat 47
12 Shalgo 40
13 LightBing 38
14 Carlo_Algatrensig 30
14 Joelsim 30
16 Leadbelly 28
17 BluesInTheBottle 27
18 Laarsland 22
18 Yellow_Knight 22
20 Josedin 17
21 Fauniera 15
22 Del1962 10
23 DJW 6
24 Kabete 4
24 SemirS 4
26 Mellow_Velo -6
27 Crevaison -12
27 Murrjt -12
29 Minessa -27
30 Vladimir -31
31 Hakkie2 -35
32 Not_My_Circus -36
32 Search -36
34 Torcia86 -39
35 Murali -42
36 GodChild -57
36 Tigerion -57
38 Jancouver -58
39 PremierAndrew -59
40 Hugo87 -60
41 ArchieBoy -61
42 JosephD -63
43 JustSomeGuy -64
43 Rote_Laterne -64
45 GeraintTooFast -66
46 Capt_Cavman -67
47 Armchair_Cyclist -70
48 TomJelte -87
49 Comodoro -89
50 AmisVelo -123
50 NairoQ -123
Collective_Wisdom -23
Standings
The top two teams swap places, as did those in 4th and 5th. Bigger rises are seen by Los Brolin (16th to 10th) and Caruut (19th to 11th), but B'bass recovers fom the steep fall I observed yesterday and rises 17 places.
1 GPBlanco 1362
2 LightBing 1299
3 BicycleBoy 1195
4 18Valve 1180
5 Del1962 1115
6 Kabete 1045
7 DJW 1028
8 SemirS 971
9 BluesInTheBottle 926
10 LosBrolin 871
11 Caruut 852
11 Comodoro 852
13 Postmanhat 831
14 TomJelte 805
15 Minessa 798
16 Murali 784
17 NairoQ 773
18 Search 764
19 Barmaher 755
20 Crevaison 727
21 AmisVelo 723
22 Bbass 700
23 Scrool07 699
24 Vladimir 690
25 Yellow_Knight 689
26 Mellow_Velo 686
27 Laarsland 637
28 GeraintTooFast 635
29 Rote_Laterne 634
30 Not_My_Circus 627
31 Trudgin 623
32 Jancouver 616
33 Kazistuta 602
34 Capt_Cavman 597
35 Armchair_Cyclist 596
36 Torcia86 594
37 Hakkie2 556
38 Carlo_Algatrensig 540
39 Shalgo 538
40 Joelsim 504
41 Fauniera 484
41 Tigerion 484
43 JustSomeGuy 478
44 Murrjt 450
45 ArchieBoy 442
46 Hugo87 432
47 JosephD 425
48 Leadbelly 376
49 PremierAndrew 359
50 Josedin 297
51 GodChild 245
Collective_Wisdom 421
The team that tops our popular picks table is the lowest scoring.
Guaranteed Points
Foliforov may hav surprised many observers, but at least 4 of us had seen some potential in him for the race, and even more trusted in his team captain.
FOLIFOROV Alexander 70 4 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 58 9 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 25 1 team
FIRSANOV Sergey 15 9 teams
SCARPONI Michele 10 0 team
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 7 2 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 5 16 teams
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 3 0 team
JUNGELS Bob 2 4 teams
MAJKA Rafal 1 8 teams
Murrjt's top stage score from Stage 3 is matched
1 18Valve 128 (Foloiforov, Kruijswijk)
2 Kazistuta 95 (Foloiforov, Valverde)
3 Bbass 77 ( (Foloiforov, Zakarin, Jungels))
4 BicycleBoy 75 (Kruijswijk, Firsanov, Jungels)
5 Search 70 (Foloiforov)
6 GPBlanco 64 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin, Majka)
7 LightBing 63 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin)
8= Del1962, DJW, Kabete, LosBrolin, SemirS 58 (Kruijswijk)
13= Barmaher, Caruut 22
15= Crevaison, Mellow_Velo, Shalgo 20
18= Fauniera, Josedin, Not_My_Circus 15
21 Postmanhat 7
22 Scrool07 6
23= Rest of the Zakarins 5
31 BluesInTheBottle 3
32 Five more Majkas 1
GP Standings
1 LightBing 412
2 BluesInTheBottle 362
3 Del1962 348
4 DJW 343
5 BicycleBoy 326
6 Search 300
7 Yellow_Knight 284
8 Minessa 283
9 18Valve 278
10 Fauniera 277
11 Mellow_Velo 259
12 Not_My_Circus 254
13 Laarsland 249
14 Bbass 244
15 GPBlanco 231
16 Murrjt 230
17 Capt_Cavman 229
17 Joelsim 229
19 Carlo_Algatrensig 224
19 SemirS 224
21 Kabete 212
22 Tigerion 179
23 Barmaher 175
23 LosBrolin 175
25 NairoQ 160
26 Kazistuta 157
27 Caruut 138
27 Josedin 138
29 Trudgin 132
30 Postmanhat 131
31 Crevaison 125
32 Shalgo 121
33 Jancouver 116
34 Leadbelly 114
35 AmisVelo 113
36 Comodoro 110
36 Scrool07 110
38 Murali 109
39 Rote_Laterne 106
40 PremierAndrew 102
41 Armchair_Cyclist 98
42 GeraintTooFast 97
43 TomJelte 78
44 ArchieBoy 69
45 GodChild 65
45 Hakkie2 65
47 Hugo87 57
48 JustSomeGuy 55
49 JosephD 52
50 Vladimir 43
51 Torcia86 37
Collective_Wisdom 64
Projected Points
Rider point changes
Nibali and Uran were, individually or jointly, the big hope of many teams: that hope is somewhat undermined today:
FOLIFOROV Alexander +77 4 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban +67 2 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +63 9 teams
JUNGELS Bob +54 4 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur +30 16 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro +26 1 team
MAJKA Rafal +26 8 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni +20 1 team
FIRSANOV Sergey +17 9 teams
...
SABATINI Fabio -15 1 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -52 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto -53 28 teams
NIBALI Vincenzo -60 11 teams
Team gains and losses
1 Bbass 160
2 GPBlanco 106
3 BicycleBoy 81
4 18Valve 80
5 Caruut 72
6 LosBrolin 63
7 Scrool07 52
8 Kazistuta 50
8 Trudgin 50
10 Barmaher 47
10 Postmanhat 47
12 Shalgo 40
13 LightBing 38
14 Carlo_Algatrensig 30
14 Joelsim 30
16 Leadbelly 28
17 BluesInTheBottle 27
18 Laarsland 22
18 Yellow_Knight 22
20 Josedin 17
21 Fauniera 15
22 Del1962 10
23 DJW 6
24 Kabete 4
24 SemirS 4
26 Mellow_Velo -6
27 Crevaison -12
27 Murrjt -12
29 Minessa -27
30 Vladimir -31
31 Hakkie2 -35
32 Not_My_Circus -36
32 Search -36
34 Torcia86 -39
35 Murali -42
36 GodChild -57
36 Tigerion -57
38 Jancouver -58
39 PremierAndrew -59
40 Hugo87 -60
41 ArchieBoy -61
42 JosephD -63
43 JustSomeGuy -64
43 Rote_Laterne -64
45 GeraintTooFast -66
46 Capt_Cavman -67
47 Armchair_Cyclist -70
48 TomJelte -87
49 Comodoro -89
50 AmisVelo -123
50 NairoQ -123
Collective_Wisdom -23
Standings
The top two teams swap places, as did those in 4th and 5th. Bigger rises are seen by Los Brolin (16th to 10th) and Caruut (19th to 11th), but B'bass recovers fom the steep fall I observed yesterday and rises 17 places.
1 GPBlanco 1362
2 LightBing 1299
3 BicycleBoy 1195
4 18Valve 1180
5 Del1962 1115
6 Kabete 1045
7 DJW 1028
8 SemirS 971
9 BluesInTheBottle 926
10 LosBrolin 871
11 Caruut 852
11 Comodoro 852
13 Postmanhat 831
14 TomJelte 805
15 Minessa 798
16 Murali 784
17 NairoQ 773
18 Search 764
19 Barmaher 755
20 Crevaison 727
21 AmisVelo 723
22 Bbass 700
23 Scrool07 699
24 Vladimir 690
25 Yellow_Knight 689
26 Mellow_Velo 686
27 Laarsland 637
28 GeraintTooFast 635
29 Rote_Laterne 634
30 Not_My_Circus 627
31 Trudgin 623
32 Jancouver 616
33 Kazistuta 602
34 Capt_Cavman 597
35 Armchair_Cyclist 596
36 Torcia86 594
37 Hakkie2 556
38 Carlo_Algatrensig 540
39 Shalgo 538
40 Joelsim 504
41 Fauniera 484
41 Tigerion 484
43 JustSomeGuy 478
44 Murrjt 450
45 ArchieBoy 442
46 Hugo87 432
47 JosephD 425
48 Leadbelly 376
49 PremierAndrew 359
50 Josedin 297
51 GodChild 245
Collective_Wisdom 421
The team that tops our popular picks table is the lowest scoring.
- Mar 22, 2010
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Re:
But if your pick is a GC contender, or a cheap pick looking for top 15 GC, then finishing is essential to getting the points. If you have picked a sprinter/breakaway specialist/TTer who might hold the leader's jersey for several days before the mountains, then the 15 points for reaching the end of three weeks can be fairly incidental. But they might miss out on week 3 stages that would suit them.
Perhaps a crafty pick would have been a cheap sprinter who can hang around to place well in week three sprints after most sprinters have gone home. We'll see soon if anyone found one.
murali said:
But if your pick is a GC contender, or a cheap pick looking for top 15 GC, then finishing is essential to getting the points. If you have picked a sprinter/breakaway specialist/TTer who might hold the leader's jersey for several days before the mountains, then the 15 points for reaching the end of three weeks can be fairly incidental. But they might miss out on week 3 stages that would suit them.
Perhaps a crafty pick would have been a cheap sprinter who can hang around to place well in week three sprints after most sprinters have gone home. We'll see soon if anyone found one.
Porsev? He finished 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 2nd in all flat stages when we scratch out those that abandoned. He'll surely be worth his price (84p), if he repeats these results 1 or 2 times later on. Only 5 picked him.
- Mar 22, 2010
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Rest Day 3 What remains to come?
How much earning potential/ vulnerability do the teams near the top of the table have? These games have typically approached the end with a few teams with similar main scorers at the top of the table, differentiated by their budget/long-shot selections. Not so this time: there are a variety of tactics that have placed teams high in the rankings.
GP Blanco 1st (1362 pts)
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656 Can't gain GC points, could lose 125 if he falls to 2nd, or 185 if to third. In position for up to 90 pink jersey points, probably more bothered about finishing close than getting high stage finish points
MAJKA Rafal 256
ZAKARIN Ilnur 256 Any GC change likely to be swings and roundabouts cancelling each other out, though either or both might overhaul Valverde for 25 points, a couple of dozen stage points each are very probable, but they haven't looked like stage winners for week 3.
Potential for breakaway/sprint with few remaining sprinters points, nothing to rely on though
PIRAZZI Stefano 96 more likely to fall than rise in GC at about 6 points per place
BATTAGLIN Enrico 51
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi 22
DE MARCHI Alessandro 25
Out of the race
PELUCCHI Matteo 0
PERAUD Jean-Christophe 0
LightBing 2nd @ 63 pts
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656 see GPBlanco above
ZAKARIN Ilnur 256 If he overtakes Majka in GC, that is a 25 point swing to LightBing compared to GPB, otherwise see above
URAN URAN Rigoberto 120 Surely won't lose 8 mins + to drop in GC, some recovery could see him overtake those less than a minute ahead of him, to gain 8, 23, 38 or even 53 GC points. Unlikely to get more stage points than Majka or Zakarin.
PORSEV Alexander 47 There are so few sprinters left that less than a couple of top 5s would be disappointing: at least 25pts more to be hoped for
Potential for breakaway points, nothing to rely on though
OSS Daniel 25
KADRI Blel 15
Out of the race
KITTEL Marcel 168
RUFFONI Nicola 12
PELUCCHI Matteo 0
Bicycle Boy 3rd @ 167 points
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656 (see comments under GPBlanco above)
JUNGELS Bob 275 Recovered some GP placings yesterday, but more likely to slide than to rise further again: back to 12th would be -53 GC points
URAN URAN Rigoberto 120 See under LightBing above
FIRSANOV Sergey 55 Minor GC fluctuation likely, but yesterday will probably have been his most prominent scoring
Very slight potential for breakaway/sprint with few remaining sprinters points
BUSATO Matteo 18
KOLOBNEV Alexandr 15
ERSHOV Artur 15 Should have been eliminated as out of time yesterday, but not so reported in results: 15 points to lose?
Out of the race
VIVIANI Elia 41
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw 0
18Valve 4th @ 182 pts
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656
NIBALI Vincenzo 357 So two shots at the remaining 90 pink points, but if Astana can engineer Nibali into the lead, that is a 185 point gain that essentially wipes out the deficit to GPBlanco
Slight breakaway possibilities
FOLIFOROV Alexander 92 (will probably lose his 7 points for Blue Jersey 6th place, but a decent return even without that)
KADRI Blel 15 (also on LightBing's team)
SEROV Alexander 15
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian 15
KOLOBNEV Alexandr 15
Out of the race
RUFFONI Nicola 12
LANDA MEANA Mikel 3 (terrific to be in contention having suffered that loss)
Del1962 5th @ 247 pts
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656
POZZOVIVO Domenico 129 (Del would need him to be given unlikely freedom to escape so that he wins a stage by 5 minutes to be in a position to win, but a disastrous day for Uran, Majka or Zakarin could get him near the podium)
URAN URAN Rigoberto 120
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 15
KOLOBNEV Alexandr 15
Out of the race
KITTEL Marcel 168
RUFFONI Nicola 12
GENIEZ Alexandre 0
PERAUD Jean-Christophe 0
Caruut 11th @ 510 points
If Chaves overtakes Kruijswijk, that is a 250 point swing to Caruut over most of the teams above him: if he does it soon there could be 90 pink jersey points as well. It would also need some great stage results to win, but he has more potential than the other Chaves team, Postmanhat
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 463
POZZOVIVO Domenico 129
PIRAZZI Stefano 96
FIRSANOV Sergey 55
BATTAGLIN Enrico 51
DE MARCHI Alessandro 25
BUSATO Matteo 18
BOLE Grega 15
Out of the race
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw 0
Postmanhat 13th @ 531pts
Not as much earning potential as Caruut, but if Chaves is a possible for the win, this is a possible podium contender
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 463
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 155
PIRAZZI Stefano 96
MONFORT Maxime 84
BELKOV Maxim 15
KOSHEVOY Ilia 15
out of the race
LANDA MEANA Mikel 3
PERAUD Jean-Christophe 0
HESJEDAL Ryder 0
How much earning potential/ vulnerability do the teams near the top of the table have? These games have typically approached the end with a few teams with similar main scorers at the top of the table, differentiated by their budget/long-shot selections. Not so this time: there are a variety of tactics that have placed teams high in the rankings.
GP Blanco 1st (1362 pts)
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656 Can't gain GC points, could lose 125 if he falls to 2nd, or 185 if to third. In position for up to 90 pink jersey points, probably more bothered about finishing close than getting high stage finish points
MAJKA Rafal 256
ZAKARIN Ilnur 256 Any GC change likely to be swings and roundabouts cancelling each other out, though either or both might overhaul Valverde for 25 points, a couple of dozen stage points each are very probable, but they haven't looked like stage winners for week 3.
Potential for breakaway/sprint with few remaining sprinters points, nothing to rely on though
PIRAZZI Stefano 96 more likely to fall than rise in GC at about 6 points per place
BATTAGLIN Enrico 51
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi 22
DE MARCHI Alessandro 25
Out of the race
PELUCCHI Matteo 0
PERAUD Jean-Christophe 0
LightBing 2nd @ 63 pts
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656 see GPBlanco above
ZAKARIN Ilnur 256 If he overtakes Majka in GC, that is a 25 point swing to LightBing compared to GPB, otherwise see above
URAN URAN Rigoberto 120 Surely won't lose 8 mins + to drop in GC, some recovery could see him overtake those less than a minute ahead of him, to gain 8, 23, 38 or even 53 GC points. Unlikely to get more stage points than Majka or Zakarin.
PORSEV Alexander 47 There are so few sprinters left that less than a couple of top 5s would be disappointing: at least 25pts more to be hoped for
Potential for breakaway points, nothing to rely on though
OSS Daniel 25
KADRI Blel 15
Out of the race
KITTEL Marcel 168
RUFFONI Nicola 12
PELUCCHI Matteo 0
Bicycle Boy 3rd @ 167 points
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656 (see comments under GPBlanco above)
JUNGELS Bob 275 Recovered some GP placings yesterday, but more likely to slide than to rise further again: back to 12th would be -53 GC points
URAN URAN Rigoberto 120 See under LightBing above
FIRSANOV Sergey 55 Minor GC fluctuation likely, but yesterday will probably have been his most prominent scoring
Very slight potential for breakaway/sprint with few remaining sprinters points
BUSATO Matteo 18
KOLOBNEV Alexandr 15
ERSHOV Artur 15 Should have been eliminated as out of time yesterday, but not so reported in results: 15 points to lose?
Out of the race
VIVIANI Elia 41
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw 0
18Valve 4th @ 182 pts
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656
NIBALI Vincenzo 357 So two shots at the remaining 90 pink points, but if Astana can engineer Nibali into the lead, that is a 185 point gain that essentially wipes out the deficit to GPBlanco
Slight breakaway possibilities
FOLIFOROV Alexander 92 (will probably lose his 7 points for Blue Jersey 6th place, but a decent return even without that)
KADRI Blel 15 (also on LightBing's team)
SEROV Alexander 15
RODRIGUEZ MARTIN Cristian 15
KOLOBNEV Alexandr 15
Out of the race
RUFFONI Nicola 12
LANDA MEANA Mikel 3 (terrific to be in contention having suffered that loss)
Del1962 5th @ 247 pts
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 656
POZZOVIVO Domenico 129 (Del would need him to be given unlikely freedom to escape so that he wins a stage by 5 minutes to be in a position to win, but a disastrous day for Uran, Majka or Zakarin could get him near the podium)
URAN URAN Rigoberto 120
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto 15
KOLOBNEV Alexandr 15
Out of the race
KITTEL Marcel 168
RUFFONI Nicola 12
GENIEZ Alexandre 0
PERAUD Jean-Christophe 0
Caruut 11th @ 510 points
If Chaves overtakes Kruijswijk, that is a 250 point swing to Caruut over most of the teams above him: if he does it soon there could be 90 pink jersey points as well. It would also need some great stage results to win, but he has more potential than the other Chaves team, Postmanhat
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 463
POZZOVIVO Domenico 129
PIRAZZI Stefano 96
FIRSANOV Sergey 55
BATTAGLIN Enrico 51
DE MARCHI Alessandro 25
BUSATO Matteo 18
BOLE Grega 15
Out of the race
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw 0
Postmanhat 13th @ 531pts
Not as much earning potential as Caruut, but if Chaves is a possible for the win, this is a possible podium contender
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 463
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 155
PIRAZZI Stefano 96
MONFORT Maxime 84
BELKOV Maxim 15
KOSHEVOY Ilia 15
out of the race
LANDA MEANA Mikel 3
PERAUD Jean-Christophe 0
HESJEDAL Ryder 0
- Nov 26, 2012
- 3,216
- 0
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So, the KRUIJSWIJK-ites are going to fill the top-10...
Nibali-ites are in for a rude shock!
Pozzo can climb at most 2 spots, not more than that
Zaka might gain one more spot.
basically, i am never going to return to top-10 now.
none with a Kruijswijk-chaves-zakarin combo?
Nibali-ites are in for a rude shock!
Pozzo can climb at most 2 spots, not more than that
Zaka might gain one more spot.
basically, i am never going to return to top-10 now.
none with a Kruijswijk-chaves-zakarin combo?
The two with Chaves have neither Kruijswijk nor Zakarin.
GPBlanco, Lightbing have Kruijswijk & Zakarin though, the former in combination with Majka, the latter with Uran. Not surprisingly the top two at the moment GPBlanco seems to have this one covered, barring any unforeseen problems with Kruijswijk.
GPBlanco, Lightbing have Kruijswijk & Zakarin though, the former in combination with Majka, the latter with Uran. Not surprisingly the top two at the moment
GPBlanco seems to have this one covered, barring any unforeseen problems with Kruijswijk.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
Stage 16 Short and strong: the ristretto stage
Guaranteed Points
Today's performance pretty much guarantees 18 points a day until at least Friday (if not till the end of the race) for Kruijswijk, while the most expensive pick in the history of these games makes some payback.
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 70 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 58 9 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 25 16 teams
ULISSI Diego 15 0 team
JUNGELS Bob 10 4 teams
LOPEZ GARCIA David 7 0 team
FIRSANOV Sergey 5 9 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 3 2 teams
MAJKA Rafal 2 8 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico 1 9 teams
The top three in Projected overall are the top three in guaranteed points on the day
1 GPBlanco 85 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin and Majka)
2 LightBing 83 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin)
3 BicycleBoy 73 (Kruijswijk, Jungels, Firsanov)
4 Kazistuta 70 (Valverde)
5= Del1962, LosBrolin 59 (Kruijswijk, Pozzovivo)
7= 18Valve, DJW, Kabete, SemirS 58 (Kruijswijk)
11 Barmaher 40
12 Bbass 35
13 Crevaison 31
14= Mellow_Velo, Shalgo 30
16 Scrool07 27
17 Murali 26
18= Seven more Zakarin's, plus Collective Wisdom 25
25 BluesInTheBottle 12
26 Caruut 9
27 Fauniera 6
28= Josedin, Not_My_Circus 5
30= Postmanhat, Vladimir 3
32= Comodoro, Laarsland, TomJelte, Torcia86 2
36= Jancouver, JosephD 1
Blues in the Bottle falls away for the first time: any more second places for Kruijswijk, and this category is LightBing's.
1 LightBing 495
2 Del1962 407
3 DJW 401
4 BicycleBoy 399
5 BluesInTheBottle 374
6 18Valve 336
7 GPBlanco 316
8 Yellow_Knight 309
9 Minessa 308
10 Search 300
Projected points
Intense action today, and some GC movement, but not the expected moves.
Main rider point changes
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro +130 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +61 9 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur +50 16 teams
JUNGELS Bob +35 4 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico +31 9 teams
DUPONT Hubert +18 1 team
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian +16 2 teams
FIRSANOV Sergey +15 9 teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin +14 13 teams
...
MONFORT Maxime -14 1 team
FUGLSANG Jakob -15 4 teams
ERSHOV Artur -15 1 team
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin -16 1 team
PIRAZZI Stefano -18 10 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni -20 1 team
MAJKA Rafal -23 8 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -27 1 team
NIBALI Vincenzo -50 11 teams
Team variation:
Stage points and moving up to third place: Valverde wins the day for Kazistuta
1 Kazistuta 126
2 Crevaison 110
3 LightBing 106
4 Barmaher 101
5 BicycleBoy 97
6 Del1962 92
6 LosBrolin 92
8 Bbass 80
8 Shalgo 80
10 Kabete 75
10 SemirS 75
12 GPBlanco 67
13 Mellow_Velo 65
14 Yellow_Knight 64
15 Murali 62
16 DJW 59
17 Carlo_Algatrensig 50
17 Joelsim 50
19 Leadbelly 48
20 Fauniera 44
21 Minessa 33
22 Josedin 31
22 Trudgin 31
24 Caruut 30
24 Hakkie2 30
26 Scrool07 23
27 PremierAndrew 14
28 JosephD 13
29 BluesInTheBottle 12
29 Tigerion 12
31 18Valve 7
32 Vladimir 5
33 Not_My_Circus 0
34 GodChild -2
34 Laarsland -2
36 Capt_Cavman -4
37 Jancouver -6
38 Postmanhat -15
39 GeraintTooFast -18
40 Murrjt -20
41 ArchieBoy -33
42 AmisVelo -38
42 Armchair_Cyclist -38
42 NairoQ -38
45 Torcia86 -43
46 Hugo87 -50
47 JustSomeGuy -54
47 Search -54
49 Rote_Laterne -66
50 Comodoro -73
50 TomJelte -73
Collective_Wisdom 50
Standings
Despite Jungels' good performance, Blues in the Bottle yields a place leaving the top 9 teams as the 9 teams with Kruijswijk. A poor day for Majka and Pirazzi are the main reasons that GPBlanco's lead is now down to less than a third place.
1 GPBlanco 1429
2 LightBing 1405
3 BicycleBoy 1292
4 Del1962 1207
5 18Valve 1187
6 Kabete 1120
7 DJW 1087
8 SemirS 1046
9 LosBrolin 963
10 BluesInTheBottle 938
11 Caruut 882
12 Barmaher 856
13 Murali 846
14 Crevaison 837
15 Minessa 831
16 Postmanhat 816
17 Bbass 780
18 Comodoro 779
19 Yellow_Knight 753
20 Mellow_Velo 751
21 NairoQ 735
22 TomJelte 732
23 Kazistuta 728
24 Scrool07 722
25 Search 710
26 Vladimir 695
27 AmisVelo 685
28 Trudgin 654
29 Laarsland 635
30 Not_My_Circus 627
31 Shalgo 618
32 GeraintTooFast 617
33 Jancouver 610
34 Capt_Cavman 593
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 590
36 Hakkie2 586
37 Rote_Laterne 568
38 Armchair_Cyclist 558
39 Joelsim 554
40 Torcia86 551
41 Fauniera 528
42 Tigerion 496
43 JosephD 438
44 Murrjt 430
45 JustSomeGuy 424
45 Leadbelly 424
47 ArchieBoy 409
48 Hugo87 382
49 PremierAndrew 373
50 Josedin 328
51 GodChild 243
Collective_Wisdom 471
Guaranteed Points
Today's performance pretty much guarantees 18 points a day until at least Friday (if not till the end of the race) for Kruijswijk, while the most expensive pick in the history of these games makes some payback.
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 70 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 58 9 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur 25 16 teams
ULISSI Diego 15 0 team
JUNGELS Bob 10 4 teams
LOPEZ GARCIA David 7 0 team
FIRSANOV Sergey 5 9 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 3 2 teams
MAJKA Rafal 2 8 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico 1 9 teams
The top three in Projected overall are the top three in guaranteed points on the day
1 GPBlanco 85 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin and Majka)
2 LightBing 83 (Kruijswijk, Zakarin)
3 BicycleBoy 73 (Kruijswijk, Jungels, Firsanov)
4 Kazistuta 70 (Valverde)
5= Del1962, LosBrolin 59 (Kruijswijk, Pozzovivo)
7= 18Valve, DJW, Kabete, SemirS 58 (Kruijswijk)
11 Barmaher 40
12 Bbass 35
13 Crevaison 31
14= Mellow_Velo, Shalgo 30
16 Scrool07 27
17 Murali 26
18= Seven more Zakarin's, plus Collective Wisdom 25
25 BluesInTheBottle 12
26 Caruut 9
27 Fauniera 6
28= Josedin, Not_My_Circus 5
30= Postmanhat, Vladimir 3
32= Comodoro, Laarsland, TomJelte, Torcia86 2
36= Jancouver, JosephD 1
Blues in the Bottle falls away for the first time: any more second places for Kruijswijk, and this category is LightBing's.
1 LightBing 495
2 Del1962 407
3 DJW 401
4 BicycleBoy 399
5 BluesInTheBottle 374
6 18Valve 336
7 GPBlanco 316
8 Yellow_Knight 309
9 Minessa 308
10 Search 300
Projected points
Intense action today, and some GC movement, but not the expected moves.
Main rider point changes
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro +130 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +61 9 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur +50 16 teams
JUNGELS Bob +35 4 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico +31 9 teams
DUPONT Hubert +18 1 team
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian +16 2 teams
FIRSANOV Sergey +15 9 teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin +14 13 teams
...
MONFORT Maxime -14 1 team
FUGLSANG Jakob -15 4 teams
ERSHOV Artur -15 1 team
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin -16 1 team
PIRAZZI Stefano -18 10 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni -20 1 team
MAJKA Rafal -23 8 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -27 1 team
NIBALI Vincenzo -50 11 teams
Team variation:
Stage points and moving up to third place: Valverde wins the day for Kazistuta
1 Kazistuta 126
2 Crevaison 110
3 LightBing 106
4 Barmaher 101
5 BicycleBoy 97
6 Del1962 92
6 LosBrolin 92
8 Bbass 80
8 Shalgo 80
10 Kabete 75
10 SemirS 75
12 GPBlanco 67
13 Mellow_Velo 65
14 Yellow_Knight 64
15 Murali 62
16 DJW 59
17 Carlo_Algatrensig 50
17 Joelsim 50
19 Leadbelly 48
20 Fauniera 44
21 Minessa 33
22 Josedin 31
22 Trudgin 31
24 Caruut 30
24 Hakkie2 30
26 Scrool07 23
27 PremierAndrew 14
28 JosephD 13
29 BluesInTheBottle 12
29 Tigerion 12
31 18Valve 7
32 Vladimir 5
33 Not_My_Circus 0
34 GodChild -2
34 Laarsland -2
36 Capt_Cavman -4
37 Jancouver -6
38 Postmanhat -15
39 GeraintTooFast -18
40 Murrjt -20
41 ArchieBoy -33
42 AmisVelo -38
42 Armchair_Cyclist -38
42 NairoQ -38
45 Torcia86 -43
46 Hugo87 -50
47 JustSomeGuy -54
47 Search -54
49 Rote_Laterne -66
50 Comodoro -73
50 TomJelte -73
Collective_Wisdom 50
Standings
Despite Jungels' good performance, Blues in the Bottle yields a place leaving the top 9 teams as the 9 teams with Kruijswijk. A poor day for Majka and Pirazzi are the main reasons that GPBlanco's lead is now down to less than a third place.
1 GPBlanco 1429
2 LightBing 1405
3 BicycleBoy 1292
4 Del1962 1207
5 18Valve 1187
6 Kabete 1120
7 DJW 1087
8 SemirS 1046
9 LosBrolin 963
10 BluesInTheBottle 938
11 Caruut 882
12 Barmaher 856
13 Murali 846
14 Crevaison 837
15 Minessa 831
16 Postmanhat 816
17 Bbass 780
18 Comodoro 779
19 Yellow_Knight 753
20 Mellow_Velo 751
21 NairoQ 735
22 TomJelte 732
23 Kazistuta 728
24 Scrool07 722
25 Search 710
26 Vladimir 695
27 AmisVelo 685
28 Trudgin 654
29 Laarsland 635
30 Not_My_Circus 627
31 Shalgo 618
32 GeraintTooFast 617
33 Jancouver 610
34 Capt_Cavman 593
35 Carlo_Algatrensig 590
36 Hakkie2 586
37 Rote_Laterne 568
38 Armchair_Cyclist 558
39 Joelsim 554
40 Torcia86 551
41 Fauniera 528
42 Tigerion 496
43 JosephD 438
44 Murrjt 430
45 JustSomeGuy 424
45 Leadbelly 424
47 ArchieBoy 409
48 Hugo87 382
49 PremierAndrew 373
50 Josedin 328
51 GodChild 243
Collective_Wisdom 471
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
Stage 17 Back to the flatlands
Guaranteed Points
Not a lot doing today:
KLUGE Roger 70 0 team
NIZZOLO Giacomo 40 0 team
ARNDT Nikias 25 0 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 18 9 teams
MODOLO Sacha 15 0 team
TRENTIN Matteo 10 0 team
PORSEV Alexander 7 5 teams
LIGTHART Pim 5 0 team
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas 3 0 team
BELLETTI Manuel 2 1 team
SIMION Paolo 1 2 teams
1 LightBing 25 (Kruijswijk and Porsev)
2= 18Valve, BicycleBoy, Del1962, DJW, GPBlanco, Kabete, LosBrolin, SemirS 18 (Kruijswijk)
10= Comodoro, Yellow_Knight 8 (Porsev, Simion)
12= JosephD, Rote_Laterne 7 (Porsev)
14 ArchieBoy 2 (Belletti)
1 LightBing 520
2 Del1962 425
3 DJW 419
4 BicycleBoy 417
5 BluesInTheBottle 374
6 18Valve 354
7 GPBlanco 334
8 Yellow_Knight 317
9 Minessa 308
10 Search 300
10 SemirS 300
Projected points
Highest change in GC is Kovetchov overtaking Anton for 30th: Oss presumably took intermediate sprint points (I haven't seen any highlights yet), because he has moved from 7th to third in the red jersey standings.
Rider point changes: I don't normally show variations of less than 10 or 15 points, but there areso few, here are all the changes of riders selected for the game
OSS Daniel +20 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +18 9 teams
PORSEV Alexander +9 5 teams
BELLETTI Manuel +2 1 team
SIMION Paolo +1 2 teams
WYSS Marcel +1 1 team
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi +1 3 teams
...
JUNGELS Bob -1 4 teams
HOWSON Damien -1 2 teams
BUSATO Matteo -1 2 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -1 1 team
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor -2 5 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -3 1 team
MEZGEC Luka -15 1 team
Our teams change by very little, and most not at all, with one notable exception
1 LightBing 47
2 GPBlanco 19
3 18Valve 18
3 Del1962 18
3 DJW 18
3 Kabete 18
3 LosBrolin 18
3 SemirS 18
9 BicycleBoy 16
10 Comodoro 10
10 Yellow_Knight 10
12 JosephD 9
12 Rote_Laterne 9
14 ArchieBoy 2
...
42 BluesInTheBottle -1
42 Caruut -1
42 Jancouver -1
42 Shalgo -1
46 JustSomeGuy -2
46 Murali -2
46 Tigerion -2
46 Vladimir -2
50 Kazistuta -3
51 Scrool07 -17
Standings
Oss's intermediate points have a real significance: the lift LightBing into a slender lead.
Not really worth posting the full list, but Comodoro swaps with B'bass for 17th, Search and Mezgec affected Scrool07 exchange 24th and 25th places, Geraint gets to share 31st and Just Some Guy no longer shares 45th. Everyone else is exactly where they were yesterday
1 LightBing 1452
2 GPBlanco 1448
3 BicycleBoy 1308
4 Del1962 1225
5 18Valve 1205
6 Kabete 1138
7 DJW 1105
8 SemirS 1064
Guaranteed Points
Not a lot doing today:
KLUGE Roger 70 0 team
NIZZOLO Giacomo 40 0 team
ARNDT Nikias 25 0 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 18 9 teams
MODOLO Sacha 15 0 team
TRENTIN Matteo 10 0 team
PORSEV Alexander 7 5 teams
LIGTHART Pim 5 0 team
NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas 3 0 team
BELLETTI Manuel 2 1 team
SIMION Paolo 1 2 teams
1 LightBing 25 (Kruijswijk and Porsev)
2= 18Valve, BicycleBoy, Del1962, DJW, GPBlanco, Kabete, LosBrolin, SemirS 18 (Kruijswijk)
10= Comodoro, Yellow_Knight 8 (Porsev, Simion)
12= JosephD, Rote_Laterne 7 (Porsev)
14 ArchieBoy 2 (Belletti)
1 LightBing 520
2 Del1962 425
3 DJW 419
4 BicycleBoy 417
5 BluesInTheBottle 374
6 18Valve 354
7 GPBlanco 334
8 Yellow_Knight 317
9 Minessa 308
10 Search 300
10 SemirS 300
Projected points
Highest change in GC is Kovetchov overtaking Anton for 30th: Oss presumably took intermediate sprint points (I haven't seen any highlights yet), because he has moved from 7th to third in the red jersey standings.
Rider point changes: I don't normally show variations of less than 10 or 15 points, but there areso few, here are all the changes of riders selected for the game
OSS Daniel +20 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +18 9 teams
PORSEV Alexander +9 5 teams
BELLETTI Manuel +2 1 team
SIMION Paolo +1 2 teams
WYSS Marcel +1 1 team
KUDUS GHEBREMEDHIN Merhawi +1 3 teams
...
JUNGELS Bob -1 4 teams
HOWSON Damien -1 2 teams
BUSATO Matteo -1 2 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -1 1 team
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor -2 5 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -3 1 team
MEZGEC Luka -15 1 team
Our teams change by very little, and most not at all, with one notable exception
1 LightBing 47
2 GPBlanco 19
3 18Valve 18
3 Del1962 18
3 DJW 18
3 Kabete 18
3 LosBrolin 18
3 SemirS 18
9 BicycleBoy 16
10 Comodoro 10
10 Yellow_Knight 10
12 JosephD 9
12 Rote_Laterne 9
14 ArchieBoy 2
...
42 BluesInTheBottle -1
42 Caruut -1
42 Jancouver -1
42 Shalgo -1
46 JustSomeGuy -2
46 Murali -2
46 Tigerion -2
46 Vladimir -2
50 Kazistuta -3
51 Scrool07 -17
Standings
Oss's intermediate points have a real significance: the lift LightBing into a slender lead.
Not really worth posting the full list, but Comodoro swaps with B'bass for 17th, Search and Mezgec affected Scrool07 exchange 24th and 25th places, Geraint gets to share 31st and Just Some Guy no longer shares 45th. Everyone else is exactly where they were yesterday
1 LightBing 1452
2 GPBlanco 1448
3 BicycleBoy 1308
4 Del1962 1225
5 18Valve 1205
6 Kabete 1138
7 DJW 1105
8 SemirS 1064
I'm confident Oss will win a stage. That's why I choose him, like Polanc in last year game. Win or lose, I'm pretty happy to be competing for the win.This after forgetting to sign up for the classics game.
I guess I'm out of contention for the 4 games overall classification, unless I win all three that are left.
A big thanks to Armchair cyclist for organizing the games!
I guess I'm out of contention for the 4 games overall classification, unless I win all three that are left.
A big thanks to Armchair cyclist for organizing the games!
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
Stage 18 Cobbled hills
Guaranteed Points
As far as the game is concerned, they might almost have cancelled the stage: only one of the top ten was picked, and he was only on two teams, and down in 7th place
TRENTIN Matteo 70 0 team
MOSER Moreno 40 0 team
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 25 0 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 18 9 teams
MODOLO Sacha 15 0 team
ARNDT Nikias 10 0 team
ROVNY Ivan 7 0 team
BUSATO Matteo 5 2 teams
KNEES Christian 3 0 team
DOMONT Axel 2 0 team
MALACARNE Davide 1 0 team
Bicycle Boy has both Busato and Kuijswijk, so 23 points today, all the other Kruijswijk teams have 18, and Caruut is the other manager to get 5 points for Busato.
Projected Points
Rider changes (again, all of them):
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +18 9 teams
BUSATO Matteo +11 2 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto +8 28 teams
ROCHE Nicolas +2 1 team
'''
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -1 1 team
HOWSON Damien -2 2 teams
FIRSANOV Sergey -4 9 teams
FORMOLO Davide -4 8 teams
ZOIDL Riccardo -5 1 team
CUNEGO Damiano -5 2 teams
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos -6 1 team
FUGLSANG Jakob -8 4 teams
OSS Daniel -10 1 team
BELLETTI Manuel -15 1 team
Team variations (such as they are)
1 BicycleBoy 33
2 Del1962 26
2 DJW 26
2 SemirS 26
5 Kabete 22
6 GPBlanco 18
6 18Valve 18
8 LightBing 16
9 LosBrolin 14
10 BluesInTheBottle 8
10 Comodoro 8
10 TomJelte 8
10 Search 8
10 AmisVelo 8
10 Capt_Cavman 8
10 Hakkie2 8
10 JosephD 8
10 PremierAndrew 8
10 GodChild 8
20 Caruut 7
20 Kazistuta 7
22 NairoQ 6
22 Tigerion 6
24 Vladimir 5
25 Barmaher 4
25 Crevaison 4
25 Mellow_Velo 4
25 Torcia86 4
29 Murali 2
29 Jancouver 2
29 JustSomeGuy 2
32 Minessa 0
32 Postmanhat 0
32 Bbass 0
32 GeraintTooFast 0
32 Rote_Laterne 0
32 Armchair_Cyclist 0
32 Joelsim 0
32 Leadbelly 0
32 Hugo87 0
41 Scrool07 -2
42 Carlo_Algatrensig -4
42 Fauniera -4
42 Murrjt -4
42 Josedin -4
46 Trudgin -5
46 Laarsland -5
48 Yellow_Knight -6
48 Shalgo -6
50 Not_My_Circus -8
51 ArchieBoy -15
Collective_Wisdom 8
The most significant change is Oss slipping one place in the points classification, losing 10 points for our leader. But Lightbing also has Uran, and Fuglsang's separation from the GC group today means Uran rises 1 spot, and 8 projected points, to hang on with a halved lead.
1 LightBing 1468
2 GPBlanco 1466
3 BicycleBoy 1341
4 Del1962 1251
5 18Valve 1223
6 Kabete 1160
7 DJW 1131
8 SemirS 1090
9 LosBrolin 995
10 BluesInTheBottle 945
So no change at the top (just), and no change anywhere down to 33rd.
Guaranteed Points
As far as the game is concerned, they might almost have cancelled the stage: only one of the top ten was picked, and he was only on two teams, and down in 7th place
TRENTIN Matteo 70 0 team
MOSER Moreno 40 0 team
BRAMBILLA Gianluca 25 0 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 18 9 teams
MODOLO Sacha 15 0 team
ARNDT Nikias 10 0 team
ROVNY Ivan 7 0 team
BUSATO Matteo 5 2 teams
KNEES Christian 3 0 team
DOMONT Axel 2 0 team
MALACARNE Davide 1 0 team
Bicycle Boy has both Busato and Kuijswijk, so 23 points today, all the other Kruijswijk teams have 18, and Caruut is the other manager to get 5 points for Busato.
Projected Points
Rider changes (again, all of them):
KRUIJSWIJK Steven +18 9 teams
BUSATO Matteo +11 2 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto +8 28 teams
ROCHE Nicolas +2 1 team
'''
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -1 1 team
HOWSON Damien -2 2 teams
FIRSANOV Sergey -4 9 teams
FORMOLO Davide -4 8 teams
ZOIDL Riccardo -5 1 team
CUNEGO Damiano -5 2 teams
VERONA QUINTANILLA Carlos -6 1 team
FUGLSANG Jakob -8 4 teams
OSS Daniel -10 1 team
BELLETTI Manuel -15 1 team
Team variations (such as they are)
1 BicycleBoy 33
2 Del1962 26
2 DJW 26
2 SemirS 26
5 Kabete 22
6 GPBlanco 18
6 18Valve 18
8 LightBing 16
9 LosBrolin 14
10 BluesInTheBottle 8
10 Comodoro 8
10 TomJelte 8
10 Search 8
10 AmisVelo 8
10 Capt_Cavman 8
10 Hakkie2 8
10 JosephD 8
10 PremierAndrew 8
10 GodChild 8
20 Caruut 7
20 Kazistuta 7
22 NairoQ 6
22 Tigerion 6
24 Vladimir 5
25 Barmaher 4
25 Crevaison 4
25 Mellow_Velo 4
25 Torcia86 4
29 Murali 2
29 Jancouver 2
29 JustSomeGuy 2
32 Minessa 0
32 Postmanhat 0
32 Bbass 0
32 GeraintTooFast 0
32 Rote_Laterne 0
32 Armchair_Cyclist 0
32 Joelsim 0
32 Leadbelly 0
32 Hugo87 0
41 Scrool07 -2
42 Carlo_Algatrensig -4
42 Fauniera -4
42 Murrjt -4
42 Josedin -4
46 Trudgin -5
46 Laarsland -5
48 Yellow_Knight -6
48 Shalgo -6
50 Not_My_Circus -8
51 ArchieBoy -15
Collective_Wisdom 8
The most significant change is Oss slipping one place in the points classification, losing 10 points for our leader. But Lightbing also has Uran, and Fuglsang's separation from the GC group today means Uran rises 1 spot, and 8 projected points, to hang on with a halved lead.
1 LightBing 1468
2 GPBlanco 1466
3 BicycleBoy 1341
4 Del1962 1251
5 18Valve 1223
6 Kabete 1160
7 DJW 1131
8 SemirS 1090
9 LosBrolin 995
10 BluesInTheBottle 945
So no change at the top (just), and no change anywhere down to 33rd.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
Stage 19 French fracas
Sorry about the late posting: I had seen headlines that made me want to watch the stage properly before I looked at full results, but a domestic plumbing disaster last night meant that I couldn't until this morning.
After a couple of days that were effectively neutralised as far as the game is concerned, this will be different.
Guaranteed points
NIBALI Vincenzo 70 11 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 43 2 teams
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 40 0 team
ULISSI Diego 15 0 team
MAJKA Rafal 10 8 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 7 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto 5 28 teams
PREIDLER Georg 3 0 team
ROCHE Nicolas 2 1 team
DUPONT Hubert 1 1 team
The Nibalists have been absent from the top of the daily charts for a long time: here they are.
1= Comodoro, TomJelte 85 (Nibali, Majka, Uran)
3= AmisVelo, NairoQ, Search 75 (Nibali, Uran)
6 GeraintTooFast 71 (Nibali, Dupont)
7= 18Valve, Armchair_Cyclist, Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Rote_Laterne 70 (Nibali)
12= Caruut, Postmanhat 43 (Chaves)
14= BluesInTheBottle, Torcia86, Vladimir 15
17 Kazistuta 12
18 GPBlanco, Laarsland, Scrool07 10
21= Twenty Uran teams, and Collective Wisdom 5
40 Jancouver 2
Standings
18Valve and Search are the Nibalists who have moved into the top ten, but LightBing looks certain to have the red jersey equivalent in our game.
1 LightBing 543
2 Del1962 448
3 BicycleBoy 445
4 18Valve 442
4 DJW 442
6 BluesInTheBottle 389
7 Search 375
8 GPBlanco 362
9 SemirS 323
10 Yellow_Knight 317
Projected points
Riders' points changes
NIBALI Vincenzo +180 11 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban +168 2 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto +50 28 teams
MAJKA Rafal +35 8 teams
MONFORT Maxime +26 1 team
JUNGELS Bob +25 4 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey +25 1 team
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin +13 1 team
...
VISCONTI Giovanni -11 1 team
POZZOVIVO Domenico -15 9 teams
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto -15 21 teams
DEIGNAN Philip -15 3 teams
CICCONE Giulio -15 3 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -43 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven -187 9 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur -240 16 teams
The two leaders who were neck and neck had teams based on Kruijswijk and Zakarin: I'm looking forward to seeing my own spreadsheet page.
Team changes on the stage:
1 Comodoro 265
2 TomJelte 250
3 Search 228
4 AmisVelo 213
5 NairoQ 201
6 Postmanhat 188
7 GeraintTooFast 187
8 Hugo87 180
8 JustSomeGuy 180
10 Rote_Laterne 178
10 Armchair_Cyclist 178
12 Caruut 137
13 BluesInTheBottle 110
14 Vladimir 71
15 Torcia86 62
16 ArchieBoy 54
17 PremierAndrew 48
18 Tigerion 46
19 Capt_Cavman 44
20 GodChild 35
21 Not_My_Circus 33
21 Laarsland 33
23 JosephD 16
24 Kazistuta 5
25 Jancouver -1
26 Josedin -6
27 18Valve -9
28 Murrjt -23
29 Fauniera -51
30 BicycleBoy -124
31 SemirS -139
32 DJW -152
33 Barmaher -164
34 Del1962 -167
35 Kabete -173
36 Minessa -197
36 Murali -197
38 LosBrolin -206
39 Hakkie2 -209
40 Mellow_Velo -211
41 Crevaison -213
42 Scrool07 -224
43 Bbass -231
44 Yellow_Knight -240
45 Shalgo -246
46 Joelsim -255
47 Carlo_Algatrensig -259
48 Trudgin -265
49 Leadbelly -270
50 LightBing -377
51 GPBlanco -395
Collective_Wisdom -205
Standings
1 BicycleBoy 1217 (Kruijswijk, Jungels, Uran, was 3rd)
2 18Valve 1214 (Kruijswijk, Nibali was 5th)
3 LightBing 1091 (Kruijswijk, Uran, was 1st)
4 Del1962 1084 (Kruijswijk, Uran, Pozzovivo, stays 4th)
5 GPBlanco 1071 (Kruijswijk, Majka, was 2nd)
6 Comodoro 1062 (Nibali, Majka, Uran, was 17th)
7 BluesInTheBottle 1055 (Jungels, Majka, Uran, was 10th)
8 Caruut 1025 (Chaves and Pozzovivo, was 11th)
9 Postmanhat 1004 (Chaves Atapuma, was 16th)
10 TomJelte 990 (Nibali, Majka, Uran, was 22nd)
11 Kabete 987
12 DJW 979
13 SemirS 951
14 Search 946
15 NairoQ 942
16 AmisVelo 906
17 GeraintTooFast 804
18 LosBrolin 789
19 Vladimir 769
20 Rote_Laterne 755
21 Kazistuta 737
22 Armchair_Cyclist 736
23 Barmaher 696
24 Laarsland 663
25 Not_My_Circus 652
26 Murali 649
27 Capt_Cavman 645
28 Minessa 634
29 Crevaison 628
30 Torcia86 617
31 Jancouver 610
32 JustSomeGuy 604
33 Hugo87 562
34 Bbass 549
35 Tigerion 546
36 Mellow_Velo 544
37 Yellow_Knight 517
38 Scrool07 479
39 Fauniera 473
40 JosephD 471
41 ArchieBoy 450
42 PremierAndrew 429
43 Murrjt 403
44 Hakkie2 385
45 Trudgin 384
46 Shalgo 365
47 Carlo_Algatrensig 327
48 Josedin 318
49 Joelsim 299
50 GodChild 286
51 Leadbelly 154
Collective_Wisdom 274
Even bigger, but less significant, rises than Tom-Jelte noted above for Just Some Guy (13 places), Geraint TooFast (14), Hugo87 (15), your host (16) and Rote Laterne (17): falls of 15-20 spots for Murali, Minessa, Crevaison, B'bass, Mellow Velo, Yellow Knight and Trudgin.
Our so called Collective Wisdom team has only 2 remaining riders: Uran and Kolobnev, but keeping them off the bottom is poor Leadbelly, whose three non-finishers yesterday leave him with just one rider to root for, which is another reason to hope that Adam Hansen can manage to finish his 14th consecutive GT.
Sorry about the late posting: I had seen headlines that made me want to watch the stage properly before I looked at full results, but a domestic plumbing disaster last night meant that I couldn't until this morning.
After a couple of days that were effectively neutralised as far as the game is concerned, this will be different.
Guaranteed points
NIBALI Vincenzo 70 11 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 43 2 teams
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 40 0 team
ULISSI Diego 15 0 team
MAJKA Rafal 10 8 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 7 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto 5 28 teams
PREIDLER Georg 3 0 team
ROCHE Nicolas 2 1 team
DUPONT Hubert 1 1 team
The Nibalists have been absent from the top of the daily charts for a long time: here they are.
1= Comodoro, TomJelte 85 (Nibali, Majka, Uran)
3= AmisVelo, NairoQ, Search 75 (Nibali, Uran)
6 GeraintTooFast 71 (Nibali, Dupont)
7= 18Valve, Armchair_Cyclist, Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Rote_Laterne 70 (Nibali)
12= Caruut, Postmanhat 43 (Chaves)
14= BluesInTheBottle, Torcia86, Vladimir 15
17 Kazistuta 12
18 GPBlanco, Laarsland, Scrool07 10
21= Twenty Uran teams, and Collective Wisdom 5
40 Jancouver 2
Standings
18Valve and Search are the Nibalists who have moved into the top ten, but LightBing looks certain to have the red jersey equivalent in our game.
1 LightBing 543
2 Del1962 448
3 BicycleBoy 445
4 18Valve 442
4 DJW 442
6 BluesInTheBottle 389
7 Search 375
8 GPBlanco 362
9 SemirS 323
10 Yellow_Knight 317
Projected points
Riders' points changes
NIBALI Vincenzo +180 11 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban +168 2 teams
URAN URAN Rigoberto +50 28 teams
MAJKA Rafal +35 8 teams
MONFORT Maxime +26 1 team
JUNGELS Bob +25 4 teams
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey +25 1 team
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin +13 1 team
...
VISCONTI Giovanni -11 1 team
POZZOVIVO Domenico -15 9 teams
BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto -15 21 teams
DEIGNAN Philip -15 3 teams
CICCONE Giulio -15 3 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro -43 1 team
KRUIJSWIJK Steven -187 9 teams
ZAKARIN Ilnur -240 16 teams
The two leaders who were neck and neck had teams based on Kruijswijk and Zakarin: I'm looking forward to seeing my own spreadsheet page.
Team changes on the stage:
1 Comodoro 265
2 TomJelte 250
3 Search 228
4 AmisVelo 213
5 NairoQ 201
6 Postmanhat 188
7 GeraintTooFast 187
8 Hugo87 180
8 JustSomeGuy 180
10 Rote_Laterne 178
10 Armchair_Cyclist 178
12 Caruut 137
13 BluesInTheBottle 110
14 Vladimir 71
15 Torcia86 62
16 ArchieBoy 54
17 PremierAndrew 48
18 Tigerion 46
19 Capt_Cavman 44
20 GodChild 35
21 Not_My_Circus 33
21 Laarsland 33
23 JosephD 16
24 Kazistuta 5
25 Jancouver -1
26 Josedin -6
27 18Valve -9
28 Murrjt -23
29 Fauniera -51
30 BicycleBoy -124
31 SemirS -139
32 DJW -152
33 Barmaher -164
34 Del1962 -167
35 Kabete -173
36 Minessa -197
36 Murali -197
38 LosBrolin -206
39 Hakkie2 -209
40 Mellow_Velo -211
41 Crevaison -213
42 Scrool07 -224
43 Bbass -231
44 Yellow_Knight -240
45 Shalgo -246
46 Joelsim -255
47 Carlo_Algatrensig -259
48 Trudgin -265
49 Leadbelly -270
50 LightBing -377
51 GPBlanco -395
Collective_Wisdom -205
Standings
1 BicycleBoy 1217 (Kruijswijk, Jungels, Uran, was 3rd)
2 18Valve 1214 (Kruijswijk, Nibali was 5th)
3 LightBing 1091 (Kruijswijk, Uran, was 1st)
4 Del1962 1084 (Kruijswijk, Uran, Pozzovivo, stays 4th)
5 GPBlanco 1071 (Kruijswijk, Majka, was 2nd)
6 Comodoro 1062 (Nibali, Majka, Uran, was 17th)
7 BluesInTheBottle 1055 (Jungels, Majka, Uran, was 10th)
8 Caruut 1025 (Chaves and Pozzovivo, was 11th)
9 Postmanhat 1004 (Chaves Atapuma, was 16th)
10 TomJelte 990 (Nibali, Majka, Uran, was 22nd)
11 Kabete 987
12 DJW 979
13 SemirS 951
14 Search 946
15 NairoQ 942
16 AmisVelo 906
17 GeraintTooFast 804
18 LosBrolin 789
19 Vladimir 769
20 Rote_Laterne 755
21 Kazistuta 737
22 Armchair_Cyclist 736
23 Barmaher 696
24 Laarsland 663
25 Not_My_Circus 652
26 Murali 649
27 Capt_Cavman 645
28 Minessa 634
29 Crevaison 628
30 Torcia86 617
31 Jancouver 610
32 JustSomeGuy 604
33 Hugo87 562
34 Bbass 549
35 Tigerion 546
36 Mellow_Velo 544
37 Yellow_Knight 517
38 Scrool07 479
39 Fauniera 473
40 JosephD 471
41 ArchieBoy 450
42 PremierAndrew 429
43 Murrjt 403
44 Hakkie2 385
45 Trudgin 384
46 Shalgo 365
47 Carlo_Algatrensig 327
48 Josedin 318
49 Joelsim 299
50 GodChild 286
51 Leadbelly 154
Collective_Wisdom 274
Even bigger, but less significant, rises than Tom-Jelte noted above for Just Some Guy (13 places), Geraint TooFast (14), Hugo87 (15), your host (16) and Rote Laterne (17): falls of 15-20 spots for Murali, Minessa, Crevaison, B'bass, Mellow Velo, Yellow Knight and Trudgin.
Our so called Collective Wisdom team has only 2 remaining riders: Uran and Kolobnev, but keeping them off the bottom is poor Leadbelly, whose three non-finishers yesterday leave him with just one rider to root for, which is another reason to hope that Adam Hansen can manage to finish his 14th consecutive GT.
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
A few speculations, not counting for any stage points or changes in Points/Mountains cats.
If Nibali overtakes Chaves. no other change
1 18Valve 1357
2 BicycleBoy 1217
3 Comodoro 1205
4 TomJelte 1133
5 LightBing 1091
6 Search 1089
7 NairoQ 1085
8 Del1962 1084
9 GPBlanco 1071
10 BluesInTheBottle 1055
If Nibali overtakes Chaves, and Kruijswijk drops behind Valverde and Majka
1 18Valve 1282
2 Comodoro 1230
3 TomJelte 1158
4 BicycleBoy 1142
5 Search 1089
6 NairoQ 1085
7 BluesInTheBottle 1080
8 AmisVelo 1049
9 GPBlanco 1021
10 LightBing 1016
If Kruiswijk drops to 5th, no other changes:
1 BicycleBoy 1142
2 18Valve 1139
3 Comodoro 1087
4 BluesInTheBottle 1080
5 Caruut 1043
6 Postmanhat 1022
7 GPBlanco 1021
8 LightBing 1016
9 TomJelte 1015
10 Del1962 1009
If Kruijswijk DNFs, no other changes
1 BluesInTheBottle 1130
2 Comodoro 1112
3 Caruut 1066
4 Postmanhat 1042
5 TomJelte 1040
6 NairoQ 975
7 Search 971
8 BicycleBoy 954
9 AmisVelo 941
10 18Valve 899
If Kruijswijk were to DNF, and Nibali and Chaves swap places
1 Comodoro 1255
2 TomJelte 1183
3 BluesInTheBottle 1130
4 NairoQ 1118
5 Search 1114
6 AmisVelo 1084
7 18Valve 1042
8 GeraintTooFast 963
9 BicycleBoy 954
10 Caruut 923
Any other permutations worth posting?
If Nibali overtakes Chaves. no other change
1 18Valve 1357
2 BicycleBoy 1217
3 Comodoro 1205
4 TomJelte 1133
5 LightBing 1091
6 Search 1089
7 NairoQ 1085
8 Del1962 1084
9 GPBlanco 1071
10 BluesInTheBottle 1055
If Nibali overtakes Chaves, and Kruijswijk drops behind Valverde and Majka
1 18Valve 1282
2 Comodoro 1230
3 TomJelte 1158
4 BicycleBoy 1142
5 Search 1089
6 NairoQ 1085
7 BluesInTheBottle 1080
8 AmisVelo 1049
9 GPBlanco 1021
10 LightBing 1016
If Kruiswijk drops to 5th, no other changes:
1 BicycleBoy 1142
2 18Valve 1139
3 Comodoro 1087
4 BluesInTheBottle 1080
5 Caruut 1043
6 Postmanhat 1022
7 GPBlanco 1021
8 LightBing 1016
9 TomJelte 1015
10 Del1962 1009
If Kruijswijk DNFs, no other changes
1 BluesInTheBottle 1130
2 Comodoro 1112
3 Caruut 1066
4 Postmanhat 1042
5 TomJelte 1040
6 NairoQ 975
7 Search 971
8 BicycleBoy 954
9 AmisVelo 941
10 18Valve 899
If Kruijswijk were to DNF, and Nibali and Chaves swap places
1 Comodoro 1255
2 TomJelte 1183
3 BluesInTheBottle 1130
4 NairoQ 1118
5 Search 1114
6 AmisVelo 1084
7 18Valve 1042
8 GeraintTooFast 963
9 BicycleBoy 954
10 Caruut 923
Any other permutations worth posting?
Probably not worth posting, but this means I can still win if Kruijswijk DNF, Nibali wins and Majka drops some places miraculously?
Long shot
Long shot
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
A few stage points/GC improvement for Atapuma and Majka dropping to 8th or 9th: that would just about put you there.NairoQ said:Probably not worth posting, but this means I can still win if Kruijswijk DNF, Nibali wins and Majka drops some places miraculously?
Long shot
Seems like 18-Valve is a worthy winner: the only one that had the insight to fit Nibali, Landa and Kruijswijk in his team. Including a good Foliforov that seems a real worthy team of winning this year's edition. Wonder how close it is.
- May 4, 2013
- 7
- 2
- 8,535
- Mar 22, 2010
- 13,867
- 9,485
- 28,180
Stage 20 Back to Italy
Guaranteed Points
TAARAMÄE Rein 70 0 team
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 40 13 teams
NIBALI Vincenzo 25 11 teams
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 25 0 team
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 15 0 team
FOLIFOROV Alexander 10 4 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 5 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto 3 28 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni 2 1 team
MAJKA Rafal 1 8 teams
1= AmisVelo, NairoQ 68 (Atapuma, Nibali, Uran)
3= Armchair_Cyclist, GeraintTooFast 65 (Atapuma, Nibali)
5= Capt_Cavman, Crevaison, Kabete, PremierAndrew, SemirS 43 (Atapuma and Uran)
10 Laarsland 41 (Atapuma and Majka)
11 Postmanhat, Shalgo, Yellow_Knight 40 (Atapuma)
14 Search 38
15 18Valve 35
16= Comodoro, TomJelte 29
18= Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Rote_Laterne 25
21 Kazistuta 18
22 Bbass 10
23= BluesInTheBottle, Torcia86, Vladimir 4
26= Remaining Uran teams 3
40 Trudgin 2
41= GPBlanco, Scrool07 1
The main sprinters for tomorrow's stage are unlikely to make a difference to the top of this table:
1 LightBing 546
2 18Valve 477
3 Del1962 451
4 BicycleBoy 448
5 DJW 445
6 Search 413
7 BluesInTheBottle 393
8 SemirS 366
9 GPBlanco 363
10 Yellow_Knight 357
11 Kabete 354
12 Minessa 316
13 NairoQ 303
14 Laarsland 302
15 Mellow_Velo 297
16 Bbass 289
17 Fauniera 283
18 Capt_Cavman 277
19 LosBrolin 270
20 Not_My_Circus 267
21 Kazistuta 257
22 AmisVelo 256
23 Joelsim 254
24 Carlo_Algatrensig 249
25 Comodoro 234
26 Armchair_Cyclist 233
26 GeraintTooFast 233
28 Murrjt 230
29 Barmaher 223
30 Postmanhat 217
31 Rote_Laterne 208
32 Crevaison 204
33 Caruut 195
34 TomJelte 194
35 Shalgo 191
36 Tigerion 187
37 Trudgin 159
38 Hugo87 152
39 JustSomeGuy 150
39 PremierAndrew 150
41 Scrool07 148
42 Josedin 143
42 Murali 143
44 Leadbelly 139
45 Jancouver 119
46 Hakkie2 98
47 ArchieBoy 79
48 GodChild 73
49 JosephD 68
50 Vladimir 65
51 Torcia86 58
Collective_Wisdom 97
Projected Points
And they should be virtually guaranteed by now:
NIBALI Vincenzo +150 11 teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin +88 13 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro +55 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto +28 28 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni +28 1 team
FOLIFOROV Alexander +22 4 teams
DUPONT Hubert +16 1 team
...
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian -12 2 teams
BATTAGLIN Enrico -12 10 teams
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin -15 1 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -25 1 team
CUNEGO Damiano -32 2 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven -52 9 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico -69 9 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban -125 2 teams
A nearly final rejuggling of the teams thus:
1 NairoQ 271
2 AmisVelo 254
2 GeraintTooFast 254
4 Armchair_Cyclist 226
5 Search 200
6 Comodoro 179
6 TomJelte 179
8 JustSomeGuy 154
9 Hugo87 150
10 Rote_Laterne 135
11 18Valve 120
12 Capt_Cavman 116
12 PremierAndrew 116
14 Kazistuta 105
15 Laarsland 96
16 Shalgo 90
17 Yellow_Knight 85
18 SemirS 64
19 Kabete 58
20 Crevaison 51
21 Barmaher 33
22 Mellow_Velo 32
23 BluesInTheBottle 29
23 Bbass 29
25 ArchieBoy 20
26 Not_My_Circus 18
27 Hakkie2 16
27 GodChild 16
29 Tigerion 14
30 Torcia86 11
31 Minessa 8
32 Joelsim 0
32 Leadbelly 0
34 Scrool07 -1
35 Trudgin -4
36 Carlo_Algatrensig -6
37 Josedin -8
38 Murrjt -18
39 BicycleBoy -20
40 LightBing -24
41 DJW -36
42 JosephD -41
43 Postmanhat -43
44 Murali -45
45 GPBlanco -56
46 Fauniera -65
47 Vladimir -68
48 Del1962 -93
49 Jancouver -100
50 LosBrolin -127
51 Caruut -202
Collective_Wisdom 28
And with a procession remaining, and probably only stage points and some tweaking of the points classification on offer, the table is:
1 18Valve 1334
2 Comodoro 1241
3 NairoQ 1213
4 BicycleBoy 1197
5 TomJelte 1169
6 AmisVelo 1160
7 Search 1146
8 BluesInTheBottle 1084
9 LightBing 1067
10 GeraintTooFast 1058
11 Kabete 1045
12 SemirS 1015
12 GPBlanco 1015
14 Del1962 991
15 Armchair_Cyclist 962
16 Postmanhat 961
17 DJW 943
18 Rote_Laterne 890
19 Kazistuta 842
20 Caruut 823
21 Capt_Cavman 761
22 Laarsland 759
23 JustSomeGuy 758
24 Barmaher 729
25 Hugo87 712
26 Vladimir 701
27 Crevaison 679
28 Not_My_Circus 670
29 LosBrolin 662
30 Minessa 642
31 Torcia86 628
32 Murali 604
33 Yellow_Knight 602
34 Bbass 578
35 Mellow_Velo 576
36 Tigerion 560
37 PremierAndrew 545
38 Jancouver 510
39 Scrool07 478
40 ArchieBoy 470
41 Shalgo 455
42 JosephD 430
43 Fauniera 408
44 Hakkie2 401
45 Murrjt 385
46 Trudgin 380
47 Carlo_Algatrensig 321
48 Josedin 310
49 GodChild 302
50 Joelsim 299
51 Leadbelly 154
Collective_Wisdom 302
The overnight leader drops to fourth, and 18Valve, only 3 points behind yesterday, takes the top step. Comodoro moves from 6th to virtual second, while NairoQ makes a last minute leap from 15th to the podium. Also making a late surge into the top ten are AmisVelo, Search and Geraint TooFast. GP winner-elect, LightBing, dropped from third to ninth, while Caruut, a potential podium occupant under one of the scenarios I drafted above, had a twelve place tumble to 20th.
Guaranteed Points
TAARAMÄE Rein 70 0 team
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 40 13 teams
NIBALI Vincenzo 25 11 teams
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 25 0 team
NIEVE ITURRALDE Mikel 15 0 team
FOLIFOROV Alexander 10 4 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 5 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto 3 28 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni 2 1 team
MAJKA Rafal 1 8 teams
1= AmisVelo, NairoQ 68 (Atapuma, Nibali, Uran)
3= Armchair_Cyclist, GeraintTooFast 65 (Atapuma, Nibali)
5= Capt_Cavman, Crevaison, Kabete, PremierAndrew, SemirS 43 (Atapuma and Uran)
10 Laarsland 41 (Atapuma and Majka)
11 Postmanhat, Shalgo, Yellow_Knight 40 (Atapuma)
14 Search 38
15 18Valve 35
16= Comodoro, TomJelte 29
18= Hugo87, JustSomeGuy, Rote_Laterne 25
21 Kazistuta 18
22 Bbass 10
23= BluesInTheBottle, Torcia86, Vladimir 4
26= Remaining Uran teams 3
40 Trudgin 2
41= GPBlanco, Scrool07 1
The main sprinters for tomorrow's stage are unlikely to make a difference to the top of this table:
1 LightBing 546
2 18Valve 477
3 Del1962 451
4 BicycleBoy 448
5 DJW 445
6 Search 413
7 BluesInTheBottle 393
8 SemirS 366
9 GPBlanco 363
10 Yellow_Knight 357
11 Kabete 354
12 Minessa 316
13 NairoQ 303
14 Laarsland 302
15 Mellow_Velo 297
16 Bbass 289
17 Fauniera 283
18 Capt_Cavman 277
19 LosBrolin 270
20 Not_My_Circus 267
21 Kazistuta 257
22 AmisVelo 256
23 Joelsim 254
24 Carlo_Algatrensig 249
25 Comodoro 234
26 Armchair_Cyclist 233
26 GeraintTooFast 233
28 Murrjt 230
29 Barmaher 223
30 Postmanhat 217
31 Rote_Laterne 208
32 Crevaison 204
33 Caruut 195
34 TomJelte 194
35 Shalgo 191
36 Tigerion 187
37 Trudgin 159
38 Hugo87 152
39 JustSomeGuy 150
39 PremierAndrew 150
41 Scrool07 148
42 Josedin 143
42 Murali 143
44 Leadbelly 139
45 Jancouver 119
46 Hakkie2 98
47 ArchieBoy 79
48 GodChild 73
49 JosephD 68
50 Vladimir 65
51 Torcia86 58
Collective_Wisdom 97
Projected Points
And they should be virtually guaranteed by now:
NIBALI Vincenzo +150 11 teams
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin +88 13 teams
VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro +55 1 team
URAN URAN Rigoberto +28 28 teams
VISCONTI Giovanni +28 1 team
FOLIFOROV Alexander +22 4 teams
DUPONT Hubert +16 1 team
...
HENAO GOMEZ Sebastian -12 2 teams
BATTAGLIN Enrico -12 10 teams
SIUTSOU Kanstantsin -15 1 team
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey -25 1 team
CUNEGO Damiano -32 2 teams
KRUIJSWIJK Steven -52 9 teams
POZZOVIVO Domenico -69 9 teams
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban -125 2 teams
A nearly final rejuggling of the teams thus:
1 NairoQ 271
2 AmisVelo 254
2 GeraintTooFast 254
4 Armchair_Cyclist 226
5 Search 200
6 Comodoro 179
6 TomJelte 179
8 JustSomeGuy 154
9 Hugo87 150
10 Rote_Laterne 135
11 18Valve 120
12 Capt_Cavman 116
12 PremierAndrew 116
14 Kazistuta 105
15 Laarsland 96
16 Shalgo 90
17 Yellow_Knight 85
18 SemirS 64
19 Kabete 58
20 Crevaison 51
21 Barmaher 33
22 Mellow_Velo 32
23 BluesInTheBottle 29
23 Bbass 29
25 ArchieBoy 20
26 Not_My_Circus 18
27 Hakkie2 16
27 GodChild 16
29 Tigerion 14
30 Torcia86 11
31 Minessa 8
32 Joelsim 0
32 Leadbelly 0
34 Scrool07 -1
35 Trudgin -4
36 Carlo_Algatrensig -6
37 Josedin -8
38 Murrjt -18
39 BicycleBoy -20
40 LightBing -24
41 DJW -36
42 JosephD -41
43 Postmanhat -43
44 Murali -45
45 GPBlanco -56
46 Fauniera -65
47 Vladimir -68
48 Del1962 -93
49 Jancouver -100
50 LosBrolin -127
51 Caruut -202
Collective_Wisdom 28
And with a procession remaining, and probably only stage points and some tweaking of the points classification on offer, the table is:
1 18Valve 1334
2 Comodoro 1241
3 NairoQ 1213
4 BicycleBoy 1197
5 TomJelte 1169
6 AmisVelo 1160
7 Search 1146
8 BluesInTheBottle 1084
9 LightBing 1067
10 GeraintTooFast 1058
11 Kabete 1045
12 SemirS 1015
12 GPBlanco 1015
14 Del1962 991
15 Armchair_Cyclist 962
16 Postmanhat 961
17 DJW 943
18 Rote_Laterne 890
19 Kazistuta 842
20 Caruut 823
21 Capt_Cavman 761
22 Laarsland 759
23 JustSomeGuy 758
24 Barmaher 729
25 Hugo87 712
26 Vladimir 701
27 Crevaison 679
28 Not_My_Circus 670
29 LosBrolin 662
30 Minessa 642
31 Torcia86 628
32 Murali 604
33 Yellow_Knight 602
34 Bbass 578
35 Mellow_Velo 576
36 Tigerion 560
37 PremierAndrew 545
38 Jancouver 510
39 Scrool07 478
40 ArchieBoy 470
41 Shalgo 455
42 JosephD 430
43 Fauniera 408
44 Hakkie2 401
45 Murrjt 385
46 Trudgin 380
47 Carlo_Algatrensig 321
48 Josedin 310
49 GodChild 302
50 Joelsim 299
51 Leadbelly 154
Collective_Wisdom 302
The overnight leader drops to fourth, and 18Valve, only 3 points behind yesterday, takes the top step. Comodoro moves from 6th to virtual second, while NairoQ makes a last minute leap from 15th to the podium. Also making a late surge into the top ten are AmisVelo, Search and Geraint TooFast. GP winner-elect, LightBing, dropped from third to ninth, while Caruut, a potential podium occupant under one of the scenarios I drafted above, had a twelve place tumble to 20th.
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