2016 TdF, Stage 1: Mont-Saint-Michel → Utah Beach (188km)

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Tonton said:
Bertie's fall was no one's fault. If one's to blame, it would be the divider outside of a curb: dangerous. Now, it may "only" be skin abrasions, however, it will take days and several bad nights to recover. And you don't want bad nights. You need rest, all the rest that you can get.

Yeah, as assumingly most people in this forum, I've fallen off a bicycle a couple times, and I couldn't even think about going for a ride the day after a fall like Contador had here. Of course I'm a wuss, not just compared to Contador but also in general, but this kind of injury sucks imo.
 
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DFA123 said:
Tonton said:
Bertie's fall was no one's fault. If one's to blame, it would be the divider outside of a curb: dangerous. Now, it may "only" be skin abrasions, however, it will take days and several bad nights to recover. And you don't want bad nights. You need rest, all the rest that you can get.
I'm sure he'll be OK - he's had enough experience of handling crashes throughout his career to not let it affect his sleep and recovery too much. I imagine they'll give him some pretty strong pain killers and the only bad thing will be peeling the sheets off the road rash in the morning :eek:
He needs some tramadol hehe :p
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Electress said:
LaFlorecita said:
Taxus... suggesting Alberto crashed because he didn't recon the route well enough... what the heck dude

Looks like a BMC rider took out Berto

Just read Sky rider ahead caused it and has already apologised.
I didn't see any Sky riders right in front of him, there was one on Toso's wheel and one behind Alberto.

I read it on twitter, reported as a quote from Maxtin. That's all. I couldn't see anything myself from the videos so really don't know. Just saying what I'd read FWIW
 
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Taxus4a said:
Of course there is is always bad luck.. cycling is like that.
he has lost the Tour and if he win is becouse he was to win for 5 minutes.

I said always crash afect riders...

The crash was not bad anyway, it is more spectacular than bad, he scraped his shopuder, but he didnt hit it ñroperly.. he coudnt copme back withoput major problems...

I remerber when froome crashed 2 times in le Tour, some people said it was becouse he wanst well... must we say the ame now?

I think he is too nervous and he did maybe some mistake, but it is in part bad luck.

He was lucky anyway to fall over the pavement, aver the flooor he would have hit it, it is a higher fall...

Of course tomorrow he could pay today crash, or maybe no, it looks just a question to heal and maybe no problem to sleep well. But later? he has just an scrap.

But the problem with him is that he has lied sometimes, so it would be difficult to know by his words how is he... maybe he is bad, but he uses to exagerate despite he is a tough and yes, epic rider, mentaly very strong.
Aren't you watching the race? Didn't you see the fall?

Why are you trying to make your poor assumptions pass as fact? The fall was aggressive. Only now is Eurosport showing info by the Tour's medic that says that Contador doesn't seem to have any fracture.

Despite that, you have no idea of the pain or any other possible issue. Also, I don't know what is your first language and I don't care. If you are writing from mobile or a desktop, there's no excuse for that code that you are writing in there. Write like a freaking human. Most of us don't have english as their first language, so also having to take your mistakes into account is frustrating. Use a spell checker (all modern OSes have them. Or browsers.) like any normal person.

PS: It's 2016 and tour time. Why is this forum useless on mobile?

I saw the fall and I reckonized Alberto for a fisrt sight, although spanish commentators didnt do. It was an espectacular crash, but it looks much more than really is. He was lucky becouse is a crask like that he could have broken easy some bones and more important injuries. He didnt hit really, he slides, so he got scrapes. Of course he must feel some pain, but he was lucky later the peloton didnt pull and now the race is not full gas, and he could change his shoe, and to heal his scrap.

The way he took his habdlebar and went at 50 km/h is an indication the crash wanst hard, despite it looked really bad.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
MacBAir said:
Taxus4a said:
Of course there is is always bad luck.. cycling is like that.
he has lost the Tour and if he win is becouse he was to win for 5 minutes.

I said always crash afect riders...

The crash was not bad anyway, it is more spectacular than bad, he scraped his shopuder, but he didnt hit it ñroperly.. he coudnt copme back withoput major problems...

I remerber when froome crashed 2 times in le Tour, some people said it was becouse he wanst well... must we say the ame now?

I think he is too nervous and he did maybe some mistake, but it is in part bad luck.

He was lucky anyway to fall over the pavement, aver the flooor he would have hit it, it is a higher fall...

Of course tomorrow he could pay today crash, or maybe no, it looks just a question to heal and maybe no problem to sleep well. But later? he has just an scrap.

But the problem with him is that he has lied sometimes, so it would be difficult to know by his words how is he... maybe he is bad, but he uses to exagerate despite he is a tough and yes, epic rider, mentaly very strong.
Aren't you watching the race? Didn't you see the fall?

Why are you trying to make your poor assumptions pass as fact? The fall was aggressive. Only now is Eurosport showing info by the Tour's medic that says that Contador doesn't seem to have any fracture.

Despite that, you have no idea of the pain or any other possible issue. Also, I don't know what is your first language and I don't care. If you are writing from mobile or a desktop, there's no excuse for that code that you are writing in there. Write like a freaking human. Most of us don't have english as their first language, so also having to take your mistakes into account is frustrating. Use a spell checker (all modern OSes have them. Or browsers.) like any normal person.

PS: It's 2016 and tour time. Why is this forum useless on mobile?

Calm bro

Taxus has this effect on people. How is that possible?
Did you read what he wrote? It's quite amazing.

Sometimes he gets hate for nothing, but I'm not sure about his intentions here.
 
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Taxus4a said:
I saw the fall and I reckonized Alberto for a fisrt sight, although spanish commentators didnt do. It was an espectacular crash, but it looks much more than really is. He was lucky becouse is a crask like that he could have broken easy some bones and more important injuries. He didnt hit really, he slides, so he got scrapes. Of course he must feel some pain, but he was lucky later the peloton didnt pull and now the race is not full gas, and he could change his shoe, and to heal his scrap.

The way he took his habdlebar and went at 50 km/h is an indication the crash wanst hard, despite it looked really bad.
Agreed, this is exactly how I see it as well. Obviously a nasty incident which is never nice to see - least of all to a GC contender - but it doesn't look like it should disrupt his race too much.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Electress said:
LaFlorecita said:
Taxus... suggesting Alberto crashed because he didn't recon the route well enough... what the heck dude

Looks like a BMC rider took out Berto

Just read Sky rider ahead caused it and has already apologised.
I didn't see any Sky riders right in front of him, there was one on Toso's wheel and one behind Alberto.

My commentary said Rowe crashed as well, so maybe that was it?
 
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spalco said:
Tonton said:
Bertie's fall was no one's fault. If one's to blame, it would be the divider outside of a curb: dangerous. Now, it may "only" be skin abrasions, however, it will take days and several bad nights to recover. And you don't want bad nights. You need rest, all the rest that you can get.

Yeah, as assumingly most people in this forum, I've fallen off a bicycle a couple times, and I couldn't even think about going for a ride the day after a fall like Contador had here. Of course I'm a wuss, not just compared to Contador but also in general, but this kind of injury sucks imo.
Same here. Yikes. And the peeling the sheets in the morning when they're glued to the wounds, as DFA123 mentioned, yikes, that hurts.
 
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TMP402 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Electress said:
LaFlorecita said:
Taxus... suggesting Alberto crashed because he didn't recon the route well enough... what the heck dude

Looks like a BMC rider took out Berto

Just read Sky rider ahead caused it and has already apologised.
I didn't see any Sky riders right in front of him, there was one on Toso's wheel and one behind Alberto.

My commentary said Rowe crashed as well, so maybe that was it?
I think he was the Sky rider who crashed into Alberto (when Alberto was already on the ground) or was it Thomas?
 

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TMP402 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Electress said:
LaFlorecita said:
Taxus... suggesting Alberto crashed because he didn't recon the route well enough... what the heck dude

Looks like a BMC rider took out Berto

Just read Sky rider ahead caused it and has already apologised.
I didn't see any Sky riders right in front of him, there was one on Toso's wheel and one behind Alberto.

My commentary said Rowe crashed as well, so maybe that was it?
Rowe hit the riders that were already on the deck
 
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Taxus4a said:
MacBAir said:
Taxus4a said:
Of course there is is always bad luck.. cycling is like that.
he has lost the Tour and if he win is becouse he was to win for 5 minutes.

I said always crash afect riders...

The crash was not bad anyway, it is more spectacular than bad, he scraped his shopuder, but he didnt hit it ñroperly.. he coudnt copme back withoput major problems...

I remerber when froome crashed 2 times in le Tour, some people said it was becouse he wanst well... must we say the ame now?

I think he is too nervous and he did maybe some mistake, but it is in part bad luck.

He was lucky anyway to fall over the pavement, aver the flooor he would have hit it, it is a higher fall...

Of course tomorrow he could pay today crash, or maybe no, it looks just a question to heal and maybe no problem to sleep well. But later? he has just an scrap.

But the problem with him is that he has lied sometimes, so it would be difficult to know by his words how is he... maybe he is bad, but he uses to exagerate despite he is a tough and yes, epic rider, mentaly very strong.
Aren't you watching the race? Didn't you see the fall?

Why are you trying to make your poor assumptions pass as fact? The fall was aggressive. Only now is Eurosport showing info by the Tour's medic that says that Contador doesn't seem to have any fracture.

Despite that, you have no idea of the pain or any other possible issue. Also, I don't know what is your first language and I don't care. If you are writing from mobile or a desktop, there's no excuse for that code that you are writing in there. Write like a freaking human. Most of us don't have english as their first language, so also having to take your mistakes into account is frustrating. Use a spell checker (all modern OSes have them. Or browsers.) like any normal person.

PS: It's 2016 and tour time. Why is this forum useless on mobile?

I saw the fall and I reckonized Alberto for a fisrt sight, although spanish commentators didnt do. It was an espectacular crash, but it looks much more than really is. He was lucky becouse is a crask like that he could have broken easy some bones and more important injuries. He didnt hit really, he slides, so he got scrapes. Of course he must feel some pain, but he was lucky later the peloton didnt pull and now the race is not full gas, and he could change his shoe, and to heal his scrap.

The way he took his habdlebar and went at 50 km/h is an indication the crash wanst hard, despite it looked really bad.

"It was an spectacular crash, but it looks much more than really is"

Next sentence: he was lucky because in a crash like that he could have broken some bones and more important injuries"

:insert facepalm:
 
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DFA123 said:
Taxus4a said:
I saw the fall and I reckonized Alberto for a fisrt sight, although spanish commentators didnt do. It was an espectacular crash, but it looks much more than really is. He was lucky becouse is a crask like that he could have broken easy some bones and more important injuries. He didnt hit really, he slides, so he got scrapes. Of course he must feel some pain, but he was lucky later the peloton didnt pull and now the race is not full gas, and he could change his shoe, and to heal his scrap.

The way he took his habdlebar and went at 50 km/h is an indication the crash wanst hard, despite it looked really bad.
Agreed, this is exactly how I see it as well. Obviously a nasty incident which is never nice to see - least of all to a GC contender - but it doesn't look like it should disrupt his race too much.

Ridiculous to try and say one way or the other at this point.
 
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The Principal Sheep said:
DFA123 said:
Taxus4a said:
I saw the fall and I reckonized Alberto for a fisrt sight, although spanish commentators didnt do. It was an espectacular crash, but it looks much more than really is. He was lucky becouse is a crask like that he could have broken easy some bones and more important injuries. He didnt hit really, he slides, so he got scrapes. Of course he must feel some pain, but he was lucky later the peloton didnt pull and now the race is not full gas, and he could change his shoe, and to heal his scrap.

The way he took his habdlebar and went at 50 km/h is an indication the crash wanst hard, despite it looked really bad.
Agreed, this is exactly how I see it as well. Obviously a nasty incident which is never nice to see - least of all to a GC contender - but it doesn't look like it should disrupt his race too much.

Ridiculous to try and say one way or the other at this point.
Why? If he had broken bones he wouldn't have been riding the way he was to get back on. He'll have some contusions and road rash for sure, but that's not going to be causing issues by the time the mountains start.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Kwibus: He wrote he wasn't a human being. No excuses for such a remark which I also have reported.

I didn't even read his comment, but he doesn't literraly say what you say he said. He's a bit rude, that's true but nothing dramatic.
 
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Was out cycling here last week. Really picturesque part of the world full of history.

This is going to be a great finish. Breakaway caught.