2016 TdF, Stage 14: Montélimar → Villars-les-Dombes (209km)

[GenericBoonenFan]

Degenkolb, ER IST WIEDER DA!!

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Kittel was well beaten for speed there.

 

[SlickMongoose]

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lefevere must be regretting so much not letting cav do track...

It's hilarious. Shot himself in the foot so badly.

 

[Lemonbaloon]

Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

lefevere must be regretting so much not letting cav do track...

It's hilarious. Shot himself in the foot so badly.

Well it made sense and was a good trade, but Cav has simply just topped him when it all mattered. The right thing to do, just kinda unlucky IMO.

 

[SlickMongoose]

Re: Re:

lefevere must be regretting so much not letting cav do track...

It's hilarious. Shot himself in the foot so badly.

Well it made sense and was a good trade, but Cav has simply just topped him when it all mattered. The right thing to do, just kinda unlucky IMO.

No, I mean that Lefevere not letting him do track at Etixx obviously hurt his sprint, and he would have won more over the last 3 years if Lefevere had allowed it.

 

[Irondan]

Re: Re:

lefevere must be regretting so much not letting cav do track...

It's hilarious. Shot himself in the foot so badly.

Well it made sense and was a good trade, but Cav has simply just topped him when it all mattered. The right thing to do, just kinda unlucky IMO.

No, I mean that Lefevere not letting him do track at Etixx obviously hurt his sprint, and he would have won more over the last 3 years if Lefevere had allowed it.

That's debateable..

There's many different variables that could have gone into Cav's resurgence.

 

[portugal11]

Kittel had a perfect leadout and he didn't go too early, but cav is simply better than him and he surpassed him very easily

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

Sagan by a landslide. Sagan doesn't even need a team. Kittel, Cav and the Gorilla all require a team to even top 3 a stage.

 

[cycladianpirate]

Re: Re:

lefevere must be regretting so much not letting cav do track...

It's hilarious. Shot himself in the foot so badly.

Well it made sense and was a good trade, but Cav has simply just topped him when it all mattered. The right thing to do, just kinda unlucky IMO.

No, I mean that Lefevere not letting him do track at Etixx obviously hurt his sprint, and he would have won more over the last 3 years if Lefevere had allowed it.

That's an interesting hypothesis. I would imagine that the points race, in particular, might be beneficial.

 

[Sem Travões]

Cav is the best with a team, and the best taking advantage of the work of others teams, but Sagan is just above this discussions is always there is the Legendary Tiger Man of professional cycling

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

Sagan by a landslide. Sagan doesn't even need a team. Kittel, Cav and the Gorilla all require a team to even top 3 a stage.

Cav would never f*ck up a sprint like Sagan did in MSR 2013.

 

[Samamba]

I'd recommend everyone here to watch the Tour of Poland. Wellens is doing one of the most impressive solos I've seen over the last year.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Re: 2016 TdF, Stage 14: Montélimar → Villars-les-Dombes (209

48th victory in a GT. He has equalled Petacchi. Wonder if he can reach the 57 wins of Cipo.

 

[SlickMongoose]

Re: Re:

lefevere must be regretting so much not letting cav do track...

It's hilarious. Shot himself in the foot so badly.

Well it made sense and was a good trade, but Cav has simply just topped him when it all mattered. The right thing to do, just kinda unlucky IMO.

No, I mean that Lefevere not letting him do track at Etixx obviously hurt his sprint, and he would have won more over the last 3 years if Lefevere had allowed it.

That's debateable..

There's many different variables that could have gone into Cav's resurgence.

Sure there are, but Cav's top spreed seems to have increased from the last couple of years, and the obvious thing that's changed is track training.

 

[MacBAir]

Re: 2016 TdF, Stage 14: Montélimar → Villars-les-Dombes (209

48th victory in a GT. He has equalled Petacchi. Wonder if he can reach the 57 wins of Cipo.

Oh, it seems like he has some nice records for next year, if things keep going his way. Beating Merckx at Le Tour and going past Cipo.

 

[trucido]

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Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

Sagan by a landslide. Sagan doesn't even need a team. Kittel, Cav and the Gorilla all require a team to even top 3 a stage.

Cav would never f*ck up a sprint like Sagan did in MSR 2013.

Of course not, considering Cav would never be in the group contesting that finish in the first place.

You can't mess up something you'd never be a part of.

 

[TMP402]

Re: 2016 TdF, Stage 14: Montélimar → Villars-les-Dombes (209

48th victory in a GT. He has equalled Petacchi. Wonder if he can reach the 57 wins of Cipo.

Oh, it seems like he has some nice records for next year, if things keep going his way. Beating Merckx at Le Tour and going past Cipo.

With the Olympics and then an increasingly winnable looking World Champs, I guess he won't do the Vuelta, but that would be a good method of chipping away at the record in future years. I'd say there are between 3 and 6 conceivably winnable stages this year.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

Sagan by a landslide. Sagan doesn't even need a team. Kittel, Cav and the Gorilla all require a team to even top 3 a stage.

Cav would never f*ck up a sprint like Sagan did in MSR 2013.

Of course not, considering Cav would never be in the group contesting that finish in the first place.

You can't mess up something you'd never be a part of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCAUo-oUlj4

And anyway, I'm not claiming Cav is better in the classics than Sagan, I'm claiming he's smarter tactically. Which he undeniably is

 

[Bushman]

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Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

Sagan by a landslide. Sagan doesn't even need a team. Kittel, Cav and the Gorilla all require a team to even top 3 a stage.

Cav would never f*ck up a sprint like Sagan did in MSR 2013.

Because Cav would never be in a front group of 7-8 riders in the finale of a tough monument

 

[May0maniac]

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Similar to the Zakarin incident. This should be a relagation

Yeah, if Zakarin got relegated you should do the same to Cav, taking half of the road isn't holding a straight line in a sprint.
Imagine the outcry if Nacer did the same...

 

[DanielSong39]

Re: Re:

Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

Sagan by a landslide. Sagan doesn't even need a team. Kittel, Cav and the Gorilla all require a team to even top 3 a stage.

Cav would never f*ck up a sprint like Sagan did in MSR 2013.

Because Cav would never be in a front group of 7-8 riders in the finale of a tough monument

Didn't Cavendish win the race in 2009?

 

[Bushman]

Re: Re:

Cav is the smartest sprinter and he has the best riders to help him stay near the front in the finale with Eisel, Renshaw(although he is gonne now) and EBH.

Sagan by a landslide. Sagan doesn't even need a team. Kittel, Cav and the Gorilla all require a team to even top 3 a stage.

Cav would never f*ck up a sprint like Sagan did in MSR 2013.

Because Cav would never be in a front group of 7-8 riders in the finale of a tough monument

Didn't Cavendish win the race in 2009?

Yeah by winning the sprint in a bunch of 40-50 riders. Completely different scenario, shouldn't be too hard to understand.

 

[Kwibus]

Re: 2016 TdF, Stage 14: Montélimar → Villars-les-Dombes (209

Really happy to see Big John sprinting again. First signs he could actually return to the top again.

Shame he went to Trek though.

 

[TMP402]

Re: 2016 TdF, Stage 14: Montélimar → Villars-les-Dombes (209

Really happy to see Big John sprinting again. First signs he could actually return to the top again.

Shame he went to Trek though.

Trek's Tour 2017 team is going to be fun: Contador vs Mollema vs Degenkolb, and Zubeldia and Irizar take up places with their jobs for life.