Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 10: Lugones > Lagos de Covad
Froome. The Art of racing without racing.
Froome. The Art of racing without racing.
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How much do you remember of Carlos Sastre? He's pretty much the poster boy for letting go early on and reappearing near the front at the end ahead of loads of people who'd been dropped long after him.ontheroad said:
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If Froome does hit top gear then he is more than capable of making that gap up, although I think his goal is to be within a minute when we get to Calp.
PremierAndrew said:
If Froome does hit top gear then he is more than capable of making that gap up, although I think his goal is to be within a minute when we get to Calp.
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At this point he's probably like a musician with perfect pitch. You could say "do 380 watts" and he could pedal exactly 380 watts just on feel.
Also, as pointed out by others, he's not yo-yoing - the others are. They're going into the red and backing off while he's doing a steady (steadier) pace. I do think he's doing some kind of negative splits and has figured he can make time overall by not going too deep at the start.
ontheroad said:
At this point he's probably like a musician with perfect pitch. You could say "do 380 watts" and he could pedal exactly 380 watts just on feel.
Also, as pointed out by others, he's not yo-yoing - the others are. They're going into the red and backing off while he's doing a steady (steadier) pace. I do think he's doing some kind of negative splits and has figured he can make time overall by not going too deep at the start.
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It's difficult to see anyone coming between them now. I don't think their level isn't going to drop enough for someone like Chaves or Scarponi to sneak in there, and the rest are too far behind or too off form.
Great to see the big three from the last couple of seasons battling it out.Lexman said:
It's difficult to see anyone coming between them now. I don't think their level isn't going to drop enough for someone like Chaves or Scarponi to sneak in there, and the rest are too far behind or too off form.
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Yeah, to some extent it's weird, but to some extent only : the way other riders ride and have always ridden, attacking each other, going deep into it than having a breather, than back at it, makes for great show but is indeed counterproductive in terms of energy spent for a precise climb time.
vedrafjord said:
Yeah, to some extent it's weird, but to some extent only : the way other riders ride and have always ridden, attacking each other, going deep into it than having a breather, than back at it, makes for great show but is indeed counterproductive in terms of energy spent for a precise climb time.
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Well Movistar get criticised a lot but let's give them credit where it's due today. Quintana hesitated but then did decide to pull Contador along to limit the Froome comeback. Meanwhile Valverde held back waiting for the Froome charge and followed him to the line remaining ahead of him on GC
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I don't know how you could read that from todays stage. Because I didn't.PremierAndrew said:
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Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 10: Lugones > Lagos de Covad
That was probably the strangest mtf I have seen in my life.
Anyway, wtf was Contador doing. You can't even say he made a mistake to follow Quintana because he was the one who attacked. Imagine there wouldn't be a Quintana in this race, what would he have done? First gain half a minute on everyone just to get caught again a little bit later? I understand that he wanted to use Froome's weakness but it's not a clever idea to do that if you are weak yourself. Movistar could have dragged him for a few more kilometers and he probably wouldn't have lost that much time.
That was probably the strangest mtf I have seen in my life.
Anyway, wtf was Contador doing. You can't even say he made a mistake to follow Quintana because he was the one who attacked. Imagine there wouldn't be a Quintana in this race, what would he have done? First gain half a minute on everyone just to get caught again a little bit later? I understand that he wanted to use Froome's weakness but it's not a clever idea to do that if you are weak yourself. Movistar could have dragged him for a few more kilometers and he probably wouldn't have lost that much time.
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End of the season, 2nd (3rd for Valverde) GT for everybody, tiredness and potentially sickness can strike in a brutal way still. The Aubisque stage could see someone looking good dropping like a stone.
DFA123 said:
End of the season, 2nd (3rd for Valverde) GT for everybody, tiredness and potentially sickness can strike in a brutal way still. The Aubisque stage could see someone looking good dropping like a stone.
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I'm pretty sure you're right. And if he's doing that on a single stage, he may also be doing it for the whole GT. I.e., trying to pace himself so that he remains strong in the third week. He's not really racing the others, he's trying to minimize his total time.
But at some point, Quintana's lead may reach the point where Froome feels he has to try to follow him on a stage, even at the risk of not conserving as much energy for following stages as planned. How much more time can he give him and make it up in the ITT? One minute?
thehog said:
I'm pretty sure you're right. And if he's doing that on a single stage, he may also be doing it for the whole GT. I.e., trying to pace himself so that he remains strong in the third week. He's not really racing the others, he's trying to minimize his total time.
But at some point, Quintana's lead may reach the point where Froome feels he has to try to follow him on a stage, even at the risk of not conserving as much energy for following stages as planned. How much more time can he give him and make it up in the ITT? One minute?
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That's one of the few times I've seen Quintana grimacing. Meanwhile, instead of pushing right to the line, Froome eased up slightly and got some help from Gesink and Fraille. Of course, I could be wrong
Escarabajo said:
That's one of the few times I've seen Quintana grimacing. Meanwhile, instead of pushing right to the line, Froome eased up slightly and got some help from Gesink and Fraille. Of course, I could be wrong
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No way Quintana will lose only a minute at that TT. It could be more like 3 minutes. I'd say Froome is still the favorite for vuelta.
Contador went at it the way guys like Hinault and Merckx did : like a big champ with massive pride.. Everybody says Hinault should have won that 86 Tour had he been more reasonable, but would he have won the previous 5 though ??? Same for Contador to some extent.
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