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If you read the rules so carefully you probably also noticed your post could be considered to be against the rules as well....DFA123 said:
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Even more ridiculous is possibility, that the measurements can be wrong.Rollthedice said:
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Just for Nibali: 6 in Giro (Asollo 2010, ITT Nevegal - Contador DSQ 2011, Bardonechia - Santa DSQ, Polsa ITT, Tre Cime 2013, Risoul 2016), 5 in Le Tour. In the books there are 11 wins, on the road there are 9.
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Just for Nibali: 6 in Giro (Asollo 2010, ITT Nevegal - Contador DSQ 2011, Bardonechia - Santa DSQ, Polsa ITT, Tre Cime 2013, Risoul 2016), 5 in Le Tour. In the books there are 11 wins, on the road there are 9.
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I realise Konig is injury/illness prone but he would be a good catch for 5 or 6 teams who need a GC leader for Giro/Vuelta as well as one week stage races.
Sykes said:
I realise Konig is injury/illness prone but he would be a good catch for 5 or 6 teams who need a GC leader for Giro/Vuelta as well as one week stage races.
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Edit: I better stress that it is nothing against jens.
When someone says that you know with absolute certainity he's wrong.Brullnux said:
Edit: I better stress that it is nothing against jens.
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Slightly embarrassing on one hand, but mightily impressive on the other hand. Well, probably a bit more than slightly embarrassing thinking about it, but we are witnessing the greatest rider of the generation at work. Valverde is at a laughable high level, its insane.
Arredondo said:
Slightly embarrassing on one hand, but mightily impressive on the other hand. Well, probably a bit more than slightly embarrassing thinking about it, but we are witnessing the greatest rider of the generation at work. Valverde is at a laughable high level, its insane.
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Contador was really lucky to win 2014 Vuelta, becouse he had the same level, and Froome as well, he has just to follow Froome, and he lost some seconnds some dayss,as today, and he just put time on Froome after sucking wheel long time.
Froome ayd in the ITT he calculate some wattios andwith that he started stronger than his level and he payed it in the middleof the ITT. All we knows than even without his best level he is much better than this. http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=26614 (he lost time with Samu, 1:17 with Uran...)
That allowed Contador to manage the race without problems.
He will try something, of course, that i god for cycling maybe this next too days.. with rain he could even recover time, at least with Froome (but at the end of Los lagos it was raining)
Froome ayd in the ITT he calculate some wattios andwith that he started stronger than his level and he payed it in the middleof the ITT. All we knows than even without his best level he is much better than this. http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=26614 (he lost time with Samu, 1:17 with Uran...)
That allowed Contador to manage the race without problems.
He will try something, of course, that i god for cycling maybe this next too days.. with rain he could even recover time, at least with Froome (but at the end of Los lagos it was raining)
Observations from the rewatching:
1- Valverde's road block seemed like a movistar gang-up on Froome at first but really was unintentional. Zero harm zero affect.
2- With 500m to go, Contador was 16 seconds behind the leading duo and was able to finish 8 seconds behind. The leading duo slowed a bit until the final 200m, but AC did a very good finale especially considering he's not a good sprinter.
3- The time distance between Froome's second wheel and Quintana's first wheel at the finish was 0.7-0.8 seconds (according to my amateur measurements) so the same time result seems fair.
1- Valverde's road block seemed like a movistar gang-up on Froome at first but really was unintentional. Zero harm zero affect.
2- With 500m to go, Contador was 16 seconds behind the leading duo and was able to finish 8 seconds behind. The leading duo slowed a bit until the final 200m, but AC did a very good finale especially considering he's not a good sprinter.
3- The time distance between Froome's second wheel and Quintana's first wheel at the finish was 0.7-0.8 seconds (according to my amateur measurements) so the same time result seems fair.
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A Contador fan who watched the Etna stage 2011 will always think about that positively and someone who dislikes Contador will always think bad about that stage. That doesn't change only because the official results were changed.
In this case Netserk's fantasy is actually partly right. Doping is not okay but we can't change what we saw. Or do you remember how stupid Andy Schleck was to make track stands although he didn't even have an opponent? And the podium of the giro 2011 where Scarponi didn't know the first one is supposed to stand in the middle? And I also still don't understand why Rujano seemed to be so much more happy after his 2nd stage win on the Großglockner than after his first one on the Etna.TMP402 said:
A Contador fan who watched the Etna stage 2011 will always think about that positively and someone who dislikes Contador will always think bad about that stage. That doesn't change only because the official results were changed.
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Unless you include cobbles. Or descents. But an MTT at the peak of Contador? Then yes, that is the only way he could have ever beaten Contador.
IMA said:
Unless you include cobbles. Or descents. But an MTT at the peak of Contador? Then yes, that is the only way he could have ever beaten Contador.
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If someone cheated their way into something, they didn't really achieve it. Was everyone cheating? No. Where most of them? Who knows. Contador got caught and stripped of his results. That's the actual bottom line. The rest is fantasy.
This is why we can't have nice things.burning said:
If someone cheated their way into something, they didn't really achieve it. Was everyone cheating? No. Where most of them? Who knows. Contador got caught and stripped of his results. That's the actual bottom line. The rest is fantasy.
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No, the bottom line is Contador was the winner of those stages and races. That is not fantasy, it is reality.carton said:
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